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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsHienz takes on: NO CATSUP ON HOT DOGS!!!!
"There are some Chicago restaurants that will show you the door if you ask for ketchup.
But that doesnt have to be a bad thing. Heinz is helping out ketchup-loving Chicagoans by putting up small billboards that dispense the condiment outside famous local restaurants that refuse to serve ketchup.
Passersby will be able to smack a ketchup bottle attached to the boards, and packets of Heinz ketchup will fall out, according to a Heinz news release. The dispensers go up Tuesday and will be available through April 9 outside the Wieners Circle, 2622 N. Clark St., and by Navy Pier, among other spots, a Heinz spokesperson said."
https://blockclubchicago.org/2024/03/29/heinz-is-putting-up-ketchup-dispensers-to-tempt-chicagoans-with-forbidden-condiment
If you know native Chicagoans you know this is a violation of God's 11th Commandment.
Diamond_Dog
(40,461 posts)I cant stand the stuff.
Model35mech
(2,047 posts)the dogs.
We did not put "sport" peppers, giardiniera, or tomato wedges on hot dogs. But then, we had never heard of THE Chicago Dog.
Sometimes we put on pickle relish, sometimes we added diced sweet onions.
I've lived with a fiercely Chicagoan Chicagoan for over 20 years. No tomato catsup on dogs, also no thousand island dressing on the fries.
TexasBushwhacker
(21,195 posts)to make cocktail sauce for shrimp.
Model35mech
(2,047 posts)which costs a whole lot more.
ProfessorGAC
(76,593 posts)No meat
NanaCat
(2,332 posts)The uses I have for it are pretty limited: Onion rings. Sweet potato fries. Need it to make meat loaf and sloppy joes. Even then, we only use Whataburger Spicy ketchup that Mum mails us from Texas.
Otherwise, I can live without it. Takes us forever to go through a bottle of the stuff.
xmas74
(30,051 posts)If you ever need it.
Celerity
(54,306 posts)Great ketchup here in Sweden.




PlanetBev
(4,411 posts)They turned us kids on to Chicago hot dogs early on. Yum
..nothing like em.
And yes, Ketchup on a hotdog is an atrocity. The only thing I put ketchup on is fries.
Model35mech
(2,047 posts)Of course, gravy is fine, as is melted cheese as is Mayo (But NEVER Miracle Whip!)
Not a fan of Thousand Island.
Model35mech
(2,047 posts)debm55
(60,154 posts)codfisherman
(89 posts)Maybe they are still in business in Greensboro, NC. Used to devour those things with ice cold bottled Coke between classes. Ketchup, mustard,slaw, and mystery chili. Not sure why anyone cares what condiments are put on ground up pig lips,eyeballs, assholes, and feet.
Abnredleg
(1,260 posts)codfisherman
(89 posts)The Beef Burger and Yum Yums were the cornerstones of my nutrition thirty years ago.
Abnredleg
(1,260 posts)doc03
(39,065 posts)nt
NanaCat
(2,332 posts)He's from California. That must be the reason for it.
ITAL
(1,316 posts)I can take or leave ketchup - I kinda enjoy hot dogs plain to be honest. I don't like mustard on anything though.
Earth-shine
(4,044 posts)I can't believe a thing they say. Mmmm, pizza.
Model35mech
(2,047 posts)Catsup? I might consider that. I did that sort of thing towards the end of the month when I was in grad school.
White bread, catsup, Mrs Dash Italian seasoning, maybe diced Puffballs if they were in season.
FHRRK
(1,410 posts)Model35mech
(2,047 posts)and come out as Ponza rotta! Waukesha Wisconsin's favorite pizza
Gidney N Cloyd
(19,847 posts)Note that it's thin crust and cut into squares because Chicagoans like to set a pie down in a group so they can all have pieces and socialize, not grab a slice, fold it, and walk off like a stunad.

NickB79
(20,324 posts)xmas74
(30,051 posts)Yummy
Prairie Gates
(8,082 posts)pizza variety.
Hell, they don't think the pizza from Bari is vera pizza.
I like both NY style and Chicago style pizza. I like Detroit style, too. I can do without that Quad Cities shit with the malt crust. But any American thinking their pizza is authentic (like New Yorkers tend to do) is deluding themselves. We all eat extremely goofy derivations of Neapolitan pizza, and we should embrace them.
True story, though. Chicago hot dogs are just better than NYC. Like, literally any small hot dog joint in Chicago will make you a better hot dog than you can get in the toniest hipster dawg place in NYC, much less the dirty water variety with that nast-ass relish.
Earth-shine
(4,044 posts)I wish I could say I didn't eat them. One day, my wish will come true.
Pizza, and many other dishes, are different in Itali.
Celerity
(54,306 posts)Also, the whole 'no ketchup on a hot dog' posturing is just silly. If you like some combo, who gives a toss.
Btw, Sweden has, overall, close to the worst pizza in the western world (Asia, on balance, is far worse, same for Africa). We have a some good places (Salta has good Argentinian style, Meno Male and 800-Grader are good as well), but on balance it is utter shit.
Brother Buzz
(39,862 posts)tinrobot
(12,049 posts)Glad I live in a tolerant state that embraces all condiments equally.
Model35mech
(2,047 posts)Blue Owl
(58,982 posts)Model35mech
(2,047 posts)Kennah
(14,578 posts)Hot dog sliced into thin stripes, cheese, and strawberry jam on toast
Model35mech
(2,047 posts)It's not the worst thing!
Ohio Joe
(21,898 posts)Fuckin Chicago
Model35mech
(2,047 posts)They are citizens with big shoulders, Hog butchers to the WORLD, etc
People who measure a meal not by the piece, but by the lb.
johnp3907
(4,295 posts)Food nazis I can do without.
bedazzled
(1,885 posts)Otherwise they don't taste like anything!
Basic LA
(2,047 posts)Especially scrambled. Caution: could illicit side-eyes in some precincts.
Model35mech
(2,047 posts)Lochloosa
(16,727 posts)Cause when you mix your eggs into your grits, ketchup gives it a funny taste. We use hot sauce instead. 😋
Basic LA
(2,047 posts)What did I know?
LeftInTX
(34,203 posts)He's Mexican and loves his hot sauces, but he puts ketchup on eggs....It's the only thing he puts ketchup on. No ketchup on fries, no ketchup on hamburgers...only puts ketchup on eggs...
Buns_of_Fire
(19,136 posts)
Model35mech
(2,047 posts)It's just hard to find people who will buy things like prickly pear catsup
Buns_of_Fire
(19,136 posts)Although I found that sliced Slim Jims in scrambled eggs didn't work all that well.
Makes you wonder what the first person to eat a raw oyster was thinking.
Model35mech
(2,047 posts)If I knew the answer to that, I'd have an idea what the first person to eat one was thinking
enid602
(9,667 posts)Have you tried poor folks turkey sandwiches? Mayo, salt and iceberg lettuce on Wonder Bread.
NanaCat
(2,332 posts)Is mustard toast.
3catwoman3
(29,319 posts)...something inside worth all the bother to get to?
cloudbase
(6,259 posts)that's a capital crime. Same with putting yellow mustard on anything.
Model35mech
(2,047 posts)brown sauce. Reinforced with garam masla, ginger, garlic, soy sauce, and either Fish Sauce or Hoisson they work together pretty well.
kcr
(15,522 posts)PCIntern
(28,319 posts)But literally hundreds of millions of bottles of ketchup or catsup are sold annually, so apparently SOMEONE likes it. Just because an individual does not like it does not invalidate the tastes of those who do. Im just saying that its really narrow to denigrate a foodstuff just because you dont like it. I despise broccoli and cauliflower but if others love it, then terrific for them.
Jeez
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Model35mech
(2,047 posts)religion, sports, consumer desires etc.
NanaCat
(2,332 posts)And I also hate kale, brussels sprouts, and turnips.
I'm a supertaster, though, and zero tolerance for bitter things is common for us. Why I don't drink ale and beer--can't stand the bitter flavour of them.
ThoughtCriminal
(14,721 posts)Why does anyone care what other people put on their own food?
ret5hd
(22,478 posts)Prairie Gates
(8,082 posts)Heileman's Old Style.
Chainfire
(17,757 posts)Trueblue1968
(19,234 posts)petronius
(26,696 posts)Bettie
(19,644 posts)what other people put on their hot dogs, hamburgers or whatever? Seriously.
Hassler
(4,916 posts)No ketchup on dogs!
ZonkerHarris
(25,577 posts)TheKentuckian
(26,314 posts)a nasty hotdog.
There is no polish that will fix those turds.
Srkdqltr
(9,712 posts)Mr.Bill
(24,906 posts)That's all that needs to be said.
Hermit-The-Prog
(36,631 posts)JustAnotherGen
(38,024 posts)Buttered roll - or Taylor Ham/Pork Roll.
tavernier
(14,431 posts)Chips and diet Dr.Pepper.
Perfect.
brooklynite
(96,882 posts)sausages in a poppy seed bun with a dozen add-ons are not hot dogs.

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LeftInTX
(34,203 posts)pansypoo53219
(23,024 posts)chouchou
(3,116 posts)Blue Owl
(58,982 posts)No ketchup reqd just yellow mustard, neon-green sweet pickle relish, chopped white onion, tomato slices, a dill pickle spear, pickled sport peppers and celery salt on a poppy seed bun.

betsuni
(29,035 posts)The sweetness announces I'M AMERICAN, and the more saucy wet things to drip and stain your clothing, the better.
I have some huge beautiful potatoes I'm going to fry and serve with a big bowl of ketchup/hot mustard/smoked mayo and feel very American.
bluesbassman
(20,382 posts)Tomatoes come from the fields in boats on top of flatbed trailers. Theyre washed out into a sluice that floats them to a conveyor belt that goes into the cannery. They make their way around the cannery and are processed into various types, whole, diced, stewed, etc. The very last stop is catsup. Whatever is left on the belt after all the other products are canned is what they process into catsup. Its not very pretty.
Jeebo
(2,559 posts)When I eat at a restaurant, I erect a small barrier using the napkin dispenser, hot sauce bottles and salt and pepper shakers, and hide the ketchup bottle behind that barrier so I don't have to look at it.
Pat Sajak sometimes criticizes Vanna White on Wheel of Fortune because she puts ketchup on hot dogs. I'm on his side. I put sauerkraut, onions and mustard on my hot dogs, or chili, onions and mustard. But ketchup on hot dogs? Yuck.
In the movie "The Martian", when Mark Watney runs out of ketchup, I rejoice. He's putting ketchup on baked potatoes. Ketchup on baked potatoes? Yuck. Okay, I admit that he doesn't have many options, but still, ketchup on baked potatoes?
I have visited Belgium twice. They put mayonnaise on their french fries. I'm okay with that. Incidentally, I believe Belgium is the origin country of french fries. Please somebody correct me about that if I'm wrong.
Did I say, I hate ketchup?
-- Ron
EX500rider
(12,549 posts)Skittles
(171,507 posts)and I cannot STAND ketchup
Permanut
(8,353 posts)Catsup/ketchup can be counted as a vegetable in school lunches, so technically you don't have to put it ON anything, just have it in a bowl.
GaYellowDawg
(5,101 posts)Ketchup is the best condiment, period. It's better than mustard. It's not even close. Ketchup is better than mayonnaise. Far better. Ketchup is better than sriracha. Yeah, I said it. Better than sriracha. Better than hot sauce. Soooo much better than habanero. Better than aioli. Better than truffles in anything. The only condiment that comes close to ketchup is Worcestershire sauce.
If you turn up your nose at ketchup, you're a damn snob who's denying themselves one of the best inventions in human history just to be a damn snob. It's stupid. If Chicagoans hate ketchup, then they deserve to be permanently mired as America's Second City behind New York. Hell, they deserve to drop below Detroit.
Ketchup is awesome. That's all.
MurrayDelph
(5,747 posts)I put mustard and ketchup on my hotdogs (and corndogs). I don't put pickles or onions on them because I don't like the first and am allergic to the second. If you like pickles and onions on a hotdog, more for you.
Some people question whether pineapple belongs on a pizza. It doesn't on mine, but if you like it, just don't make me eat or pay for it.
And for the record, while mayonnaise on corned beef or pastrami may be considered a crime against nature, I like having it on my bacon cheeseburger during Passover.
tirebiter
(2,699 posts)Ketchup I can take or leave depending on what I may be putting it on.
murielm99
(32,965 posts)Period. End of story.
Niagara
(11,765 posts)Anyway, I wanted to mention that as we all gracefully grow older that there are several items that effect how we eat.
It's not always limited to family, stress, social or economics. Sometimes how we eat is due to our allergy/food intolerance's, environment and health. Sometimes our tastes change as well.
I use to consume ketchup and now since I've restricted my diet (AKA adjusted my lifestyle) I no longer consume ketchup. I use to have this weird thing that happened to me after I consumed ketchup, the upper part of my nose would get hot and sweaty. My now deceased maternal grandfather and my son had/have this reaction to ketchup as well. My mother doesn't have this reaction at all.
When I first moved to Buffalo, I use to eat at Ted's Hotdogs frequently. This was way before I discovered that I had a gluten intolerance/sensitivity. There on every table at Ted's Hotdogs was a clear oil style condiment bottle. I asked my partner what is this? He replied that it was vinegar. At the time I thought it was a weird condiment to have on the table.
Since I've lived in Buffalo for sometime now, I put a tiny splash of vinegar on my homemade french fries instead of ketchup. I don't eat ketchup at all anymore, but in my youth and young adult days I had to have that stuff on everything that a person would normally put ketchup on.
Prairie_Seagull
(4,661 posts)Stone ground mustard onion and relish. I miss the home depot dogs they used to have in Seattle SODO
Happy Hoosier
(9,529 posts)Except for well-done steak. Thats not just heresy its vandalism.
LudwigPastorius
(14,663 posts)The thought of it now makes me slightly queasy.
This is my go-to mustard for a dog:

GaYellowDawg
(5,101 posts)Mustard is childish and unsophisticated, and no actual adult should consider using it.
See how that goes?
Model35mech
(2,047 posts)A corporation wants to confront the local culture of Chicago for said corporation's access to a market turned off by the use of its product in ONE particular instance. The use of tomato catsup on hot dogs
I really don't care WHAT you put on your hot dogs, or where you put them before they go into your mouth. Those are personal choices, that IMO should be respected.
But here we have a megacorporation that without an invitation, wants to change the prevailing culture of America's 3rd largest city.
If you support this, don't complain to me when corporations decide you can't wear pants or mini-skirts over the age of, let's say, 45 years.
If you've got a product, please do feel free to market it. But, consider doing it in a way that isn't a confrontation to local culture. Maybe a remake of something popular like the "Anticipation" song commercials of the late 70's.
LeftInTX
(34,203 posts)People can bring packs of ketchup into restaurants.
I hardly see how ketchup packets in Chicago violates local culture.
No one is having ketchup forced upon them. They are free to bring a ketchup packet into a restaurant.
Knowing that Chicago doesn't serve ketchup, whether Heinz is on the streets or not, I will bring my own.
Texas is an anti-ketchup state and I'm always having to fight to get ketchup around here. So, if I bring packs of ketchup into a Texas place that doesn't service ketchup am I violating the culture of Texas?
Is it culture misappropriation to serve ketchup in Texas?
Or if we screw with the culture of Texas, is it OK because it's Texass anyway???
Model35mech
(2,047 posts)presentations of challenges to your way of life.
I supposed.
But then people never seemed to notice it. Mostly they just wanted to push their own food preference.
LeftInTX
(34,203 posts)Model35mech
(2,047 posts)I've never much cared for Vienna sausage... too Italian/garlicy for me. But I was born in "Chicagoland, not Chicago".
In the small small world I inhabit I think Hebrew National and Nathan's reign supreme as great hot dogs (usually served on a soft roll, with mustard, green pickle relish and diced onion).
I like Brats, but not charred/burned black, served on a Semel roll with stone ground mustard. But, you know, my tastes aren't too representative of the midwest. I also like a breakfast of "Groats mit Fleisch", which is basically Haggis flavored pork and ground beef that is NOT pushed into a sheep stomach. I've done Haggis, and don't like the 'wrapper' or the under current taste of sheep lungs. Not At All.
LeftInTX
(34,203 posts)Now smoked brat beef brats are an abomination, because smoked beef brats = smoked sausage. Brats must be pork and not smoked for 12 hours.
Model35mech
(2,047 posts)I don't know if that's a concession to people whose food discipline excludes pork. But Johnsonville is this WI house's go to brat
We get the version that isn't precooked. Because of pork related parasitic issues that may be why they are beef, but I don't know,
We do brats on semmel rolls a few times a summer, and then in the winter we do sliced Brats once or twice a month, without buns, along with pickled beet, and cucumber with diced green onion garnish. Sometimes also with small polish sausage.
LeftInTX
(34,203 posts)Johnsonville used to have pre-cooked pork, but I don't know what happened. I'm from Wisconsin. Sheboygan brats...LOL
I noticed Johnsonville's pre-cooked pork skyrocketed...WTF? $39.99 for six brats....
https://www.johnsonvillemarketplace.com/products/beer-brats-cooked-bratwurst-6-pack
The smoked beef "brats" are only $4.64 at my grocery store.
Celerity
(54,306 posts)Here is the per package price at Kroger
$4.69
SNAP EBT
Johnsonville Cooked Stadium Bratwursts
14 oz
https://www.kroger.com/p/johnsonville-cooked-stadium-bratwursts/0007778202396?searchType=default_search
LeftInTX
(34,203 posts)LudwigPastorius
(14,663 posts)That's not just American jingoism. Even when I was in Germany, I didn't think much of their brats.

LeftInTX
(34,203 posts)Never had Earl Campbells, but the smoked sausage section at my local HEB is kinda huge. Kiolbassa (yeah that's the actual name of the family..LOL) makes the best local smoked sausage.
betsuni
(29,035 posts)Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(135,366 posts)I'll do both mustard and ketchup on my hotdog for a sweet and sour contrast.
The weirdest thing I've ever seen as far as a hotdog goes is a Seattle dog which has fried onions and cream cheese. To each their own
As far as the Chicago dog goes I like them fine but most New Yorkers would never pile that much on a hotdog,
Model35mech
(2,047 posts)And corporations should keep their market interests out of the mix.
Xavier Breath
(6,635 posts)though in my case I prefer dijon to yellow/stadium mustard. I have never understood the derision for ketchup on a hot dog, how some people act so superior for not eating it that way. It's a bunch of nonsense.
MenloParque
(566 posts)
Backseat Driver
(4,671 posts)Good for Heinz to recognize diversity in Chicago. Now--are those packet billboards going to be stocked w/Heinz "organic" ketchup?
Conjuay
(3,055 posts)Just like Chicagoans with catsup, dont place pineapple on a pizza:
A New Yorker will look at you accusingly and say, You from out of town?
DemocraticPatriot
(5,410 posts)That came about after some 'Western Burger' special item from Burger King, back in the late 80's or early 90's...
I don't mind ketchup for french fries, but I'll eat them with BBQ sauce also--- or sometimes vinegar.
DiverDave
(5,245 posts)On my hotdogs. Sometimes with Guildens spicy brown. Yum.
I know mayo on dogs is weird to alot of people. But I'm a bit strange.
Renew Deal
(85,061 posts)The restaurants are right.
LeftInTX
(34,203 posts)Renew Deal
(85,061 posts)Get your facts right!
