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kairos12

(12,877 posts)
Fri Mar 29, 2024, 05:55 PM Mar 29

I avoid conversations with MAGA, but this time

I was in the doctor's office waiting room. In walked a dude fully decked out in Chump gear. Including, "I identify as a pissed off American slogan."

He sat across from an older couple. The woman eyed him and said a lot of people agree with you. I couldn't help it, " I said not everybody."

The Chumper eyed me. I was wearing my battered ball call that identified me as a an Army Ranger. Major Cognitive Dissonance for him I'm sure. You could see the wheels turning. So he asked me, "you an Army Ranger?" I said Yep. Then I asked him, "what Branch were you?"

The hemming and hawing began. I went back to my book.






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I avoid conversations with MAGA, but this time (Original Post) kairos12 Mar 29 OP
Thank you for your service and your call out to the idiot you encountered. Deuxcents Mar 29 #1
Good on you! MOMFUDSKI Mar 29 #2
Excellent ☑️ Diamond_Dog Mar 29 #3
i was talking to a friend of mine and a neighbor would missquote the bible and id say where is that in the bible ? i got AllaN01Bear Mar 29 #4
I did that with an idiot who said that our government NanaCat Mar 29 #6
eggscllent. dont u just love it when they go sputter sputt sputt.? AllaN01Bear Mar 29 #8
I had a similar encounter years ago with a Jesus person thucythucy Mar 29 #14
Probably not but there is always hope but you definitely TheKentuckian Mar 29 #18
Getting off the bus the driver thucythucy Mar 30 #55
I doubt it. He does not, as they say, have a prayer. Aristus Mar 29 #20
I would have paid to see/hear you do that. 3catwoman3 Mar 29 #25
Classic shifting of the burden of proof Shermann Mar 30 #53
If the government were actually built on the bible genxlib Mar 30 #48
semantic point - cab67 Mar 30 #50
In the longer version of this rant, I do acknowledge that genxlib Mar 30 #54
Great bdamomma Mar 29 #24
Lol Demovictory9 Mar 29 #5
So perfectly beautiful!!!😂 Hope22 Mar 29 #7
Awesome! Chi67 Mar 29 #9
Perfect! Sucha NastyWoman Mar 29 #10
Well done, Ranger, well done. MLAA Mar 29 #11
Excellent! LoisB Mar 29 #12
Perfect response. 👍 dchill Mar 29 #13
Perfect! Evolve Dammit Mar 29 #15
Well done, Ranger! TomSlick Mar 29 #16
Sometimes I wish there were pay-per-view for MAGA encounters. Dem2theMax Mar 29 #17
Well done! Aristus Mar 29 #19
For sure. kairos12 Mar 29 #21
HO-AAAH AverageOldGuy Mar 29 #22
Don't know where you folks live, I'm in bright red southern Oregon, MerryBlooms Mar 29 #23
Yeah a lot of out of staters have the view that Oregon is very liberal captain queeg Mar 29 #26
Ashland isn't as liberal as folks would like to believe. MerryBlooms Mar 29 #28
Didn't think about Ashland but yeah I would have assumed it was pretty blue down there captain queeg Mar 29 #31
That is actually typical for most states lonely bird Mar 29 #33
I'm originally from Ohio. My old area seems very red. Lots of MAGA signs and such captain queeg Mar 29 #36
I am in Portage County lonely bird Mar 29 #39
I grew up mostly in Garrettsville. Went to KSU for a year captain queeg Mar 29 #40
I went to Hiram, lived in Garrettsville Easterncedar Mar 29 #42
It's still a quaint little town. It's managed capitalize on that captain queeg Mar 29 #43
Didn't hear about the fire. Easterncedar Mar 29 #45
Several years ago a fire pretty much swept one side of Main Street. captain queeg Mar 30 #46
We are in Shalersville lonely bird Mar 30 #49
Ah, The Brick! Good times were had Easterncedar Mar 30 #59
I see I'm not the only one who spent time at the Brick captain queeg Mar 30 #62
Epic Bravo.. Classic! Cha Mar 29 #27
Bravo!! The fact you were reading a book probably babylonsister Mar 29 #29
Well done, brother Aviation Pro Mar 29 #30
Good for you. badhair77 Mar 29 #32
I bet Cherokee100 Mar 29 #34
"We need to learn how to talk to these people." czarjak Mar 29 #35
I deal with them all the time at work and I am horribly outnumbered hydrolastic Mar 29 #37
BZ OldSWODog Mar 29 #38
No, I'm an Air Force Ranger, dumbass. Ligyron Mar 29 #41
MOST Rangers are Army, but, ... JustABozoOnThisBus Mar 30 #52
The closest I got to hard corps COL Mustard Mar 30 #60
Had a similar situation the day after the Uvalde massacre. bluesbassman Mar 29 #44
I've used "what branch did you serve in?" to great effect! IrishAfricanAmerican Mar 30 #47
Yes! I was hit with that once. Grins Mar 30 #56
Offer him the chance to go to Alpha Male Boot Camp keithbvadu2 Mar 30 #51
Another one I get from the MAGA-idiots on guns. Grins Mar 30 #57
Nicely done, kairos12.. Permanut Mar 30 #58
I love it! yardwork Mar 30 #61
I'd say has was a gravy seal! Mr. Sparkle Mar 30 #63

Deuxcents

(16,353 posts)
1. Thank you for your service and your call out to the idiot you encountered.
Fri Mar 29, 2024, 06:02 PM
Mar 29

We all should be grateful for those who don’t keep silent.

AllaN01Bear

(18,502 posts)
4. i was talking to a friend of mine and a neighbor would missquote the bible and id say where is that in the bible ? i got
Fri Mar 29, 2024, 06:27 PM
Mar 29

a bible right here . she said another thing and i responded with that line as well. then she said a missquate in the constitution and i said i have a pocket version here . she shut up. dont you love it when they go sputter sputt sputt.

NanaCat

(1,301 posts)
6. I did that with an idiot who said that our government
Fri Mar 29, 2024, 06:37 PM
Mar 29

Was based on the bible. I called BS with a warning that I had a copy of the Constitution in my handbag. Bring your bible, and let's see what matches up. We'll start with the three branches of government, and the minimum ages for representatives, Senators and POTUS. Or how the First Amendment says freedom of religion--as in freedom not to believe in an invisible space pal at all.

Do find the verses that mention any of that. I'll wait.

The fool never brought up that hoary old nugget again.

AllaN01Bear

(18,502 posts)
8. eggscllent. dont u just love it when they go sputter sputt sputt.?
Fri Mar 29, 2024, 06:38 PM
Mar 29
ps bring up section 11 of treaty of tripli and watch their eyes bulge .

thucythucy

(8,089 posts)
14. I had a similar encounter years ago with a Jesus person
Fri Mar 29, 2024, 07:10 PM
Mar 29

while riding a bus across country.

The bus was packed, he was right next to me, and I couldn't avoid his preaching. Standard right wing Jesus stuff, heavy on the sin and damnation, nothing on feeding the poor, clothing the naked, visiting people in prison, welcoming the stranger, etc.

Luckily, I know quite a few Bible verses, dating back to childhood. I was able to rebut everything he said, citing chapter and verse.

It ended after he said, in frustration, "How do you know God hasn't sent me to you to show you the Truth?"

To which I answered, "How do you know God hasn't sent me to YOU to show you the error of your blasphemous ways?"

That shut him up for the rest of the trip. I often wonder if our encounter did him any good.

TheKentuckian

(25,029 posts)
18. Probably not but there is always hope but you definitely
Fri Mar 29, 2024, 07:46 PM
Mar 29

helped a whole bus load of people have a better trip.

Shermann

(7,451 posts)
53. Classic shifting of the burden of proof
Sat Mar 30, 2024, 09:57 AM
Mar 30

You now have to prove he isn't the Voice of God instead of him proving that he is.

genxlib

(5,542 posts)
48. If the government were actually built on the bible
Sat Mar 30, 2024, 06:18 AM
Mar 30

Then the ten commandments would actually be codified.

So when challenged with this concept, simply ask..."so how many of the 10 Commandments are actually laws"

The answer is 2.

And lets face it, No killing and no stealing are kind of obvious,

So spare me the nonsense and stop putting those things into courthouses,

genxlib

(5,542 posts)
54. In the longer version of this rant, I do acknowledge that
Sat Mar 30, 2024, 10:59 AM
Mar 30

So it is a fair point.

Although many Christians have interpreted as a prohibition against lying in general and we see how well that is going.

Even if you use 3 as the answer, I still love to hear Christians try and explain that.

TomSlick

(11,114 posts)
16. Well done, Ranger!
Fri Mar 29, 2024, 07:35 PM
Mar 29

All these years later, I still can't bring myself to wear a cover indoors. If I can find a cap appropriate for an old retired judge advocate, perhaps I need to adapt.

Dem2theMax

(9,655 posts)
17. Sometimes I wish there were pay-per-view for MAGA encounters.
Fri Mar 29, 2024, 07:38 PM
Mar 29

With all the money going to the Biden campaign, of course.

Well done! Really would have loved to see the squirming Maga idiot trying to disappear into his seat.

MerryBlooms

(11,773 posts)
23. Don't know where you folks live, I'm in bright red southern Oregon,
Fri Mar 29, 2024, 08:07 PM
Mar 29

Never have encounters like this, except for work. Toxic work environment at times, but just daily time with dementia clients. Never encounter the stuff some ya'll report. We just still open doors for each other, scurry thru and say no hurry. And southern oregon, eastern oregon, is red, red, red! I feel bad for you and others, feeling forced to confront daily. 🤗🤗🤗

captain queeg

(10,269 posts)
26. Yeah a lot of out of staters have the view that Oregon is very liberal
Fri Mar 29, 2024, 08:23 PM
Mar 29

That’s true for Portland and Eugene but not so much in rural area of the state. My sister use to live in John Day and had some stories to tell.

MerryBlooms

(11,773 posts)
28. Ashland isn't as liberal as folks would like to believe.
Fri Mar 29, 2024, 08:48 PM
Mar 29

Oregon outside of Portland Metro, Eugene, we're struggling. I would love to see a hard campaign here for Dems, because I think there's some issues we could win on. But, it would take money and effort that we're just not worth right now. We need to concentrate on keeping a Dem Gov! Otherwise, we will be totally screwed.

captain queeg

(10,269 posts)
31. Didn't think about Ashland but yeah I would have assumed it was pretty blue down there
Fri Mar 29, 2024, 09:05 PM
Mar 29

The small towns and rural areas are very red, sometimes rabidly so. My sister lived over in John Day when the crazies took over that natural area and she said all the locals including the sheriff supported them.

lonely bird

(1,689 posts)
33. That is actually typical for most states
Fri Mar 29, 2024, 09:24 PM
Mar 29

Rural areas have less population but the area always looks bigger on maps. I am in a deep red county in Ohio but one of the larger towns is blue.

captain queeg

(10,269 posts)
36. I'm originally from Ohio. My old area seems very red. Lots of MAGA signs and such
Fri Mar 29, 2024, 10:26 PM
Mar 29

I haven’t been there for a few years, but going back this summer for a few days. My old county Portage seems pretty red, but looking at some political web sites after last election it apparently went for Joe.

lonely bird

(1,689 posts)
39. I am in Portage County
Fri Mar 29, 2024, 11:11 PM
Mar 29

According to Politico Portage went for Trump in 2020.

Fewer Trump signs than there were where I am.

Kent is blue likely because of Kent State.

In the primary the Democratic Party didn’t run anyone to be candidates for several offices in the general. I don’t know if this is due to a lack of people willing to run or just a county party office with few resources.

captain queeg

(10,269 posts)
40. I grew up mostly in Garrettsville. Went to KSU for a year
Fri Mar 29, 2024, 11:32 PM
Mar 29

I moved out west a long time ago. I used to go back every year when my parents were alive. I atull have a sister back there.

captain queeg

(10,269 posts)
43. It's still a quaint little town. It's managed capitalize on that
Fri Mar 29, 2024, 11:52 PM
Mar 29

The entire downtown is full of little shops. Actually I don’t think I have been there since the big fire destroyed most of one side of Main Street a few years ago. I’ll have to drive thru when I visit. My sister lives in Mewtom Falls.

Easterncedar

(2,338 posts)
45. Didn't hear about the fire.
Fri Mar 29, 2024, 11:56 PM
Mar 29

Last time I was there it felt like the city was getting awfully close. I wish I could have the garden here that I had there. The soil was gorgeous.

captain queeg

(10,269 posts)
46. Several years ago a fire pretty much swept one side of Main Street.
Sat Mar 30, 2024, 12:05 AM
Mar 30

I saw some pictures but haven’t been there. Got a HS reunion coming up next year. I might try to make that. But I could pretty much bet on the political leanings of the folks who have stayed in the area. Seems like everyone who went to college left the area.

My mom always had a big garden and I’d help out. Produced way more than she could ever use but I learned to enjoy gardening. I’m sure it was her favorite hobby. Haven’t had one in years since I sold my house and started renting.

lonely bird

(1,689 posts)
49. We are in Shalersville
Sat Mar 30, 2024, 08:26 AM
Mar 30

We like the area. My brother-in-law is next door which is great as he is a good guy. We ended up here because we had to be in my territory for the company I was working for at the time. We both had family in NE Ohio as my wife and I grew up in Maple Heights which is a Cleveland suburb. The house next door to my BIL was available so we got it. The politics in Portage suck but most people I run into are OK.

The fire in Garrettsville took out three buildings, iirc. They were leveled.

We have eaten Sean’s Pub, Cal’s and The Brick. The Garrettsville theatre was redone a few years ago and is still a going concern.

Cherokee100

(270 posts)
34. I bet
Fri Mar 29, 2024, 09:51 PM
Mar 29

I bet he knows a guy, who knows a guy, who was in the military. So that makes him an expert. I'm so sick, of those maggots. Of course, ' Benedict donald' (the draft dogger) is their hero.

czarjak

(11,298 posts)
35. "We need to learn how to talk to these people."
Fri Mar 29, 2024, 10:02 PM
Mar 29

Says Cassie Hutchinson. I have bad news for that tool, I've known how to address a MAGA since The Escalator Ride. F-'Em all.

hydrolastic

(488 posts)
37. I deal with them all the time at work and I am horribly outnumbered
Fri Mar 29, 2024, 10:51 PM
Mar 29

One thing that happens when confronted with their own stupidity. Often they start ranting and you can't get a word in edgewise like if the last man talking wins. This is combined with whataboutism and the price of gas. A year or more ago I decided to give them a bit of their own medicine. Instead of backing down I engage fully and just keep saying what I can to dispute just about anything they say. Except the issue of guns I won't argue guns with them. Around Trump arrest time I bought 5 "Make prison great again" T shirts and wore them for a week straight. I now wear them about once a week. I also have a "talk to me about politics" ACLU shirt a Justice matters T shirt and the biggest reaction from the magas is the" Kamala Harris For the people" They hate that one with a passion.
politics wasn't a thing at work until Trump put in the Muslim Ban. when he did that's when the Magna movement really started to me. I feel it was 4 years of abuse. Followed now by another 4 years of more abuse. It has to end someday! At least I think it will. probably will take a new party though.

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,372 posts)
52. MOST Rangers are Army, but, ...
Sat Mar 30, 2024, 09:20 AM
Mar 30

Any branch can (and does) send members to the Army's Ranger school. Even the Air Force. Even (shudder), the Space Force.

This Bozo was strictly Army Chairborne (REMF).

COL Mustard

(5,933 posts)
60. The closest I got to hard corps
Sat Mar 30, 2024, 02:45 PM
Mar 30

Was going through Air Assault School at Ft. Campbell in 1979. I was a ROTC cadet at the time and got to meet Pete Dawkins briefly. He was preparing for Brigade Command.

Other than that, me too. I work at the Pentagon now and since Space Force stood up it's kind of funny to watch them in the halls. They got to keep their previously earned awards from their prior services, so there is at least one Space Force Colonel wearing a Ranger tab.

bluesbassman

(19,379 posts)
44. Had a similar situation the day after the Uvalde massacre.
Fri Mar 29, 2024, 11:53 PM
Mar 29

Guy in the HEB was wearing a AR-15 t-shirt with some 2nd Amendment gibberish on it and I asked him he thought the parents of all those slain kids would appreciate his shirt. He scowled at me, then looked up and saw my 2nd Armored Cavalry ball cap and said “oh, you probably think everyone should serve in the military”. I looked him dead in the eye and said “I can tell by your question that you never served, but yes, maybe if everyone served they’d know what weapons of war are capable of and what they do to the human body”. His wife grabbed his arm and hustled him off sputtering at that point, but the dumb look on his face was priceless.

Grins

(7,239 posts)
56. Yes! I was hit with that once.
Sat Mar 30, 2024, 12:04 PM
Mar 30

Idiot: “Did you serve?”

Me: “Yes. 1st Infantry Division! I even volunteered back when there was a draft! What combat unit did you serve in?”

Always a thrill!

keithbvadu2

(36,949 posts)
51. Offer him the chance to go to Alpha Male Boot Camp
Sat Mar 30, 2024, 09:08 AM
Mar 30

Offer him the chance to go to Alpha Male Boot Camp

Three days of getting wet, sworn at, and monthly zoom meetings with your hardened compatriots.

Only $18,000 out of his pocket.........
(Uncle Sam paid me to go to boot camp.)

https://www.google.com/search?q=alpha+male+boot+camp&rlz=1C1AWUC_enUS1014US1023&oq=alpha+male+boot+camp&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUyDwgAEEUYORiDARixAxiABDIHCAEQABiABDINCAIQABiGAxiABBiKBTINCAMQABiGAxiABBiKBdIBCjI4NTg0ajBqMTWoAgiwAgE&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

Grins

(7,239 posts)
57. Another one I get from the MAGA-idiots on guns.
Sat Mar 30, 2024, 12:27 PM
Mar 30

College friend described himself and those Reich-wing idiots like him as “gunned-up warriors,” ready to defend against the deep state and damn socialist liberals. Thought liberals were wusses who hated guns. (Did I mention he was a fucking dentist?)

He hit me with that shit one day and I locked and loaded on him.

“Yeah; you’re a fucking warrior-dentist! I bet I’m the only you know who is qualified on the main battle tank and every weapon on it! And every weapon an infantryman uses. I’ve fired more real weapons than you ever have, to include missiles and calling in artillery. But, sure; you bought a Glock one day to get your dick hard so you’re a fucking ‘warrior’!”







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