IDF admits to killing two Gazans, burying them with a bulldozer

[ForgoTheConsequence]

https://www.jpost.com/breaking-news/article-794406#google_vignette


Israeli soldiers shot dead two unarmed Palestinian men in Gaza, their bodies buried in sand and rubbish by an army bulldozer, exclusive broadcast footage obtained by Al Jazeera has shown.

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At least one of the two men repeatedly waved what appeared to be white fabric, in a sign of surrender and to show that there was no threat.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/3/28/israeli-soldiers-shoot-dead-two-unarmed-palestinian-men-in-gaza-video

[ck4829]

1. We're told Gazans are just supposed to surrender and it will be over, but this is what happens when they do surrender?

[Demsrule86]

30. Israel wants the land...Jared said that there could be nice beach resorts in Gaza.

[NoRethugFriends]

151. what Jared says is irrelevant

[obamanut2012]

56. Two injured hostages tried to surrender/be rescued

The IDF killed them.

[ForgoTheConsequence]

2. When the bulldozers start burying bodies things have taken an even more evil turn.

Unfortunately for Israel it's 2024 and everything is being document in real time.

[RSherman]

3. The US military did the same in Desert Storm

"Rather than clear the trenches man by man, the Americans simply plowed through the Iraqis on combat earthmovers, even burying some defenders alive as they tried in vain to shoot the bulldozers.

"For all I know, we could have killed thousands," Col. Anthony Moreno, commander of the brigade that led the assault, told The Seattle Times. "I came through right after the lead company. What you saw was a bunch of buried trenches with people's arms and things sticking out of them."

The Americans suffered zero casualties in the assault, as they were all inside of armored vehicles and the Iraqi ground forces had no answer to them. As the Iraqis watched their comrades buried alive, they began to surrender en masse."

https://www.military.com/history/bulldozer-assault-of-desert-storm-saw-us-army-opt-out-of-trench-warfare.html#:~:text=Rather%20than%20clear%20the%20trenches,have%20killed%20thousands%2C%22%20Col.

[ForgoTheConsequence]

5. The difference was they weren't trying to surrender.

[Voltaire2]

7. And they were civilians.

[EX500rider]

76. And how do you tell the civilian males from Hamas?

[Voltaire2]

83. Or the Hamas babies, old people, women, and children.

I wonder if after the genocide has achieved its goal, after the population of Gaza has been substantially removed and replaced, we will wonder how we could have remained silent as these crimes were conducted. Will we claim ignorance, like many Germans did? Will we just accept it, reify genocidal policies as the only possibility?

[EX500rider]

84. Where is anyone "removing" anybody from Gaza? Did you imagine that or what?

I believe all the ones who left early on thru Egypt wanted to leave and most had dual passports

[AZSkiffyGeek]

112. So the kids ARE Hamas!

I’m surprised to see an anti-Israel poster admit that- they’re usually bending over backwards to explain that Palestinians and Hamas aren’t the same.

[elias7]

8. The problem is that with 20 years of terrorist tactics, you have to consider the Trojan Horse ploy

It’s war. Never in any war, including Ukraine Russia has every action of combatants (or at least the less popular side) been dissected with such detail.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

14. Elias7 said no such thing. nt

[ForgoTheConsequence]

16. The implication was that everyone is a possible terrorist.

Therefor justifying the action at hand. Give me a break, Marine.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

17. The implication is your opinion, not a statement of fact. nt.

[erodriguez]

18. Amazing. What people say to justify the horror of this war crime.

The soldiers allow the guy to come close.Then they murder him.

The other guy is running away. Probably because he knows what happened to the first and they shoot him in the back.

There is no trojan horse here.

These guys were murdered and then the evidence was covered up.

I wonder how many other war crimes were covered up by the IDF.

[David__77]

49. It is amazing...

I think is unfortunate that this country is doing so much to enable this military campaign.

[TeamProg]

66. War Crimes are not protected. History will not be kind. nt

[Renew Deal]

6. They are not the same thing.

In the Desert Storm case, they were in actual combat.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

10. Yeah, I know from first hand experience, I was there, I operated one of those dozers,

the difference that you fail to say is that those Iraqi soldiers weren't surrendering, they were still shooting at us.

[Patton French]

19. Semper Fi. NT

[MarineCombatEngineer]

21. Ooh Rah.

[Nutty Putty]

26. Gross n/t

[MarineCombatEngineer]

28. Thank you.

I try and you fell for it.

[PufPuf23]

72. Real funny stuff ha ha. nt

[MarineCombatEngineer]

87. I thought so too.

[PufPuf23]

89. Know you did, my reply was sarcasm. nt

[MarineCombatEngineer]

90. I knew what you were saying,

mind you, I'm not saying the act was funny, far from it, I was responding to the member's response to my Ooh Rah.

[Nutty Putty]

24. Disgusting

You’d think we’d evolved past this savagery eons ago. The “accountability” will come and it will come in ways we least expect and it will be devastating.

[Avalon Sparks]

71. And it was Just as wrong

Almost all of DU was against the Iraq war at the time.

[sarisataka]

107. DU was against this war

That happened a decade before DU existed? Desert Storm was in 1991.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

111. Umm, you do realize that Desert Storm happened well before DU was created right?

So how could almost all of DU be against Desert Storm when DU wasn't started until 2001?

Maybe you should delete your post as it's false information.

[Avalon Sparks]

124. Whoops

Ok, yup I got mixed up, sorry. Regardless, I personally was against both.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

130. No problemo.

I did fight in Desert Storm, my last combat deployment before retirement, but I was against the "Iraqi Freedom" invasion, which was anything but.

I'm against war also, except in instances where our national security is directly threatened, then, all bets are off and if it's a direct threat to the US, then unleash hell on earth to those that would dare to challenge us on our own soil, as in the case of Russia vs Ukraine, which I wholeheartedly support Ukraine.
Peace out.
Dan.

[malaise]

4. Nothing justifies this evil

That is all

[cayugafalls]

22. Nothing justifies the evil spoken of in this thread.

All wars, ALL death in wars is evil.

War is evil.

[PatSeg]

25. "War is evil"

What kind of species are we that we still resort to such evil to resolve our differences? Let the leaders fight one another in hand-to-hand combat instead of using their people as cannon fodder to satisfy their lust for power.

[cayugafalls]

33. We, the people, have always been canon fodder.

Nothing has changed since the days of serfdom. The only difference is that the circus and distraction have become more insidious.

Most still think they are free.

[PatSeg]

45. Well, at least today the madness is televised

But in spite of that, too many buy into the patriotic BS, thinking the sacrifices of the common people is justifiable. The powers that be compensate for the many deaths by giving out medals, as if that would make up for the cruel premature loss of a child, parent, spouse. That is not to discount the bravery and sacrifice of the many who have served, but one has to question how necessary it was.

The worst to me are the countless civilian deaths that are so often dismissed as collateral damage. A handful of powerful leaders treat the world as if it is their own personal gameboard and human lives are of no major consequence.

[louis-t]

23. IDF has no interest in 2-state solution.

When you murder hundreds who are lining up to get food, bulldoze cemeteries, and shoot unarmed men with white flags, there is only one intent: To erase Palestinians from their homeland.

[EX500rider]

27. Oh so they were lining up to get food were they?

That's funny, videos I saw had swarms of men attacking trucks which were still moving and then got run over by the trucks, I'd like to see the videos of people lining up who got shot, can you direct me to those?

[David__77]

32. They shot people seeking food.

Lots of sources linked: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flour_massacre

I think that referring to a group of people as a "swarm" can be dehumanizing. This term is often used to depict large numbers of insects or other pests moving in a mass, implying a lack of individuality, autonomy, and sometimes even a sense of invasion or danger. When applied to people, it can strip them of their humanity and individuality, reducing them to a mass perceived as threatening or inferior.

[EX500rider]

37. And yet the link you provided calls it a "swarm" more then once

Citing witnesses, CNN reported that civilians "swarmed" the aid trucks


A drone video published by the IDF showed thousands of people swarming aid trucks

[David__77]

39. The coverage was far from perfect.

[TeamProg]

67. Swarming for food. You wrote "attacking trucks" which is qite comical. No matter, we have all come to expect lies

from many different sources.

History will NOT be kind.

[EX500rider]

75. I bet the truck drivers felt like it was a attack on the trucks

They didn't accelerate out of there for laughs

[NorthCountryLib]

139. At least one driver was killed

But the anti-Israel folks don't care about that.

[NorthCountryLib]

138. The evidence showed people surrounded the trucks, killed some drivers

And some men started attacking IDF soldiers.
If you believe Al Jazeera and Hamas, you are going to get lied to.

[cayugafalls]

34. Yea, shame on starving people for trying to feed their families.

Do I need the tag?

[EX500rider]

38. My objection was to characterizing a riot in progress as "lining up for food"

If that had been the case, no one would have been run over or shot.

[David__77]

42. Do you think it was justified to shoot them?

[MarineCombatEngineer]

43. Were you there?

Do you know what threat the riot posed to the IDF?
I wasn't, and neitther were you so I won't second guess the IDF.

[TeamProg]

70. Most of us saw the drone footage. It was almost a massacre. History will not be kind. nt

[EX500rider]

48. The majority died in a stampede

Only around 12 died of gunshot wounds, the IDF says they turned and rushed a checkpoint and refused orders to stop.
In most war zones that will get you shot.

[TeamProg]

68. "The IDF says.." Enjoying the Kool-Aid I see.

[EX500rider]

74. "Hamas says.." Right, always default to believing the terrorists....lol

[MarineCombatEngineer]

91. And HAMAs says enjoying the propaganda. nt

[NorthCountryLib]

140. I believe the IDF or Hamas every day of the week

A democracy over a terrorist group.
I'm amazed my fellow Dems stand with Hamas and believe their lies.

[TeamProg]

141. Are you referring to Hamas' lies about the 30k+ dead, mass starvation, hospital bombings, shooting of

unarmed innocents or bombings of residential homes? You don’t need Hamas to tell you about those atrocities, they are as clear to everyone as daylight.

History will NOT BE KIND. Don’t be on the wrong side.

[EX500rider]

59. Every military checkpoint in a active war zone

Tends to shoot people who don't obey commands to stop especially in areas where suicide vest are a possibility

[cayugafalls]

44. My point was it is kind of hard to be orderly when you are dying.

By characterizing it as a riot you denigrated those who were starving and trying to save their own families.

It was not a riot. It was severely starving people trying to get food.

All you have to is spend some energy really thinking about what led to the people trying desperately to get that food.

Peace and love.

[PatSeg]

50. Yeah, it is pretty easy for people in the U.S.

sitting at their computers in their comfortable homes to pass judgment on starving people in a foreign land.

What would anyone do to save their child under dire, hopeless conditions? Once you reach a certain level of hunger, food becomes a matter of life or death. Nothing else really matters. It is demeaning and dehumanizing.

[louis-t]

60. Your impression was people "attacking trucks"?

What would be the point of "attacking trucks" that were there to feed people? I'd hate to see what your behavior would be if you were starving and your family was starving. Do you think you would be noble and heroic? Think again. What I saw was starving people trying to get to food. Shooting started, truck drivers panicked and fled, running over people. Gee, and all you saw was "men attacking trucks".

[EX500rider]

61. Regardless of why that's what it boils down to

The truck drivers didn't flee because they were happy about the event

[louis-t]

63. They were fleeing because IDF started shooting.

I told you that. I didn't say they were happy. No one forced them to drive those trucks, did they? They didn't try to drive away until the shooting started.

[Cha]

118. HAMAS has NO interest in a 2 State Solution.

[d_b]

29. these things happen *shrug*

just this past thursday I shot the mailman and street sweeper dude dead. Buried 'em in the garden.

[gulliver]

35. Putin, Iran, and Hamas are in league and Al Jazeera is the Qatari government.

Discussions pertaining to justice are never helped with these sources, thus making such discussions immoral. They harm not only those they intend to help but everyone.

[David__77]

51. Do you think the killings of the people shown in the video are moral?

[gulliver]

57. I didn't watch them, but you can tell me if they would have happened if Hamas hadn't attacked on Oct. 7

[MarineCombatEngineer]

95. That's what it all comes down too,

if HAMAS hadn't viciously attacked Israel, raping, killing, mutilating and kidnapping innocent civilians, we wouldn't even be here right now talking about this.

[AloeVera]

101. If Hamas hadn't attacked on Oct 7th,

Israel would not have to commit war crimes. It's very sad and unfair what the IDF is forced to do.

[gulliver]

102. Well, that's a very argumentative and non-authoritatively accusatory thing to say.

But everyone's voice should be heard, of course. I think Putin probably started this whole thing and enjoys seeing it play out. I'm sure you can at least agree with me on Putin being a rat-faced piece of scum who inherited his looks from his mother and that Hamas is a pack of Dahmeresque, murder-suicide perverts. We can at least agree on that, can't we? Can't we?

[AloeVera]

108. I enjoy your writing.

I mean it, that was good!

Not a fan of Putin, regardless of his unfortunate inherited looks. For the same reasons everyone espouses here. He's an autocrat, killer, aggressor. I wouldn't put much past him but I don't see his hand in this.

Anyone, Hamas or not, who kills and tortures innocent people, is scum in my book. Hamas did commit atrocities, no argument from me. It will raise ire here, but I will say when you treat a people brutally for decades, it's not surprising some of them will become brutal themselves.

However I don't agree with using and embellishing* those atrocities to try to create a political climate where a lawless war on civilians in the form of collective punishment becomes acceptable. I think that's just wrong.

* I really don't want to hear it. That Israel has used atrocity propaganda to further its aim of total war on Gaza, by manufacturing consent, should be pretty clear to thinking people by now.

[Cha]

104. If The Fucking Butchers Of HAMAS Hadn't Started the WAR Committing

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Evil Gang Rapes and Mutilating Israelis.. This Would NOT BE Happening.

[TeamProg]

145. Or if Israeli settlers didn't invade Palestinian designated lands. nt

[gulliver]

147. I think the settlements should be part of negotiations postwar

It's hard to imagine there being a postwar right now.

[TeamProg]

149. No, all settlers should be out, NOW! Never should have gone in

[NickB79]

36. Walked towards IDF troops, ignored orders to stop, ignored warning shots

One was shot dead, the other STILL kept walking forward after seeing his buddy fall, and he too was shot dead. A bulldozer was used in case they were wearing suicide vests, which have been used by Hamas fighters in the past.

Either they were stupid or suicidal, because none of that is the behavior of men intent on surrendering in order to live another day

The one thing I think the IDF should have done differently here was to aim for legs first, and then move up behind the bulldozer to get a better view of the injured men.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

41. Aww,

you've let facts intervene in a bankrupt rant.
Shame on you.

[Sky Jewels]

47. Cut off Israel NOW!

[flying_wahini]

52. When Iran bombs the crap out of Israel will Netanyahu stop?

It seems Netanyahu is doing his best to trigger a world war to get even. I fully expect there will be another terrorist attack here in America, sooner than later. And then Netanyahu will point and say “see, they are barbarians”.
Do you really think that rest of the Mid East is sleeping? I fear that there will be paybacks coming.

IMO the US needs to walk away from Netanyahu and take our war machine contracts and killing machines with us. When the Jews feel targeted like the Palestinians they will understand what a huge mistake it has been. Just because you had American support before doesn’t mean it will be forever. They pissed away any sympathy months ago for me.
Sorry if this inflames more argument, these are just how I feel.

[AZSkiffyGeek]

53. So it's "the Jews" now

Thanks for stating out loud what has been obvious from the get go.
Go on cheering Iran attacking “the Jews”.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

54. Yeah, that was pretty obvious.

The masks are now completely off.

[AZSkiffyGeek]

55. Seeing more than normal this week

Wonder if Easter has them all aroused over blood libel.

[Nixie]

58. And notice there is no acknowledgement that the Jews

actually were targeted. It wasn't a feeling "when the Jews feel targeted..."

Lots of historical facts just down the rabbit hole.

[flying_wahini]

109. Sorry if that offended you.

But that’s not what the topic was about. Not you.

[TheKentuckian]

142. It has always been about that.

The whole screed you responded to is a fucking cry for genocide.

That is what the dream of the "withdraw" calls.

Fucking devils.

[AZSkiffyGeek]

146. Oh, I know what they've meant since the beginning

It's just now they aren't even trying to hide it with "Israelis" or "Zionists".

[Mossfern]

62. When Jews feel targeted? Really ?!?!?!?!

Surely you must be joking.

[sarisataka]

65. I may be presumptuous

But I think the Jews are very familiar with how it feels to be targeted

[flying_wahini]

110. Not like they will in the future. They are controlling the narrative and doing it badly.

[sarisataka]

114. So if I am understanding you predict there will be another holocaust this time led by Iran

And the US will stand by and watch It happen.

[AZSkiffyGeek]

115. Yup, the slip is showing

[flying_wahini]

144. Of course not. But you have to admit Israel's genocide is a bit hard to swallow no matter who it is?

Are you saying you support that? It sounds like you are. When is it enough?
If anything, Gaza is looking like an holocaust to me. I think most people agree with me.
I’m just saying that there is a No turning back point and Israel has passed it. Iran and the other countries aren’t going to turn a blind eye forever. There will be repercussions. If you don’t agree then you are not
really in support of Israel but just Netanyahu.
The US has supported Netanyahu for too long. He need his rug pulled out a bit.

[sarisataka]

148. Now that IS presumptuous

To ask a question and answer on my behalf. Then to proceed to attack my opinion based on the answer you put in my mouth

Unsurprisingly since your answer was wrong, pretty much everything that followed was also wrong.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

131. Wow!!!!

Thanks for the transparency.

[EX500rider]

77. "When Iran bombs the crap out of Israel "

I don't think Iran is stupid enough to directly attack a country with a 1st World Air Force & nuclear weapons.
Bombing Iran's oil infrastructure to dust wouldn't be that hard & Israel would love a excuse to bomb their nuclear bomb facilities also.

[Cha]

119. "The Jews" were "Targeted on Oct 7, 2023 by the

GD Fucking Sneaky Ass Lying, Gang Raping Mutilating, Shite for Brains Hamas.

[electric_blue68]

121. Er... "the Jews"? Jews here in the US, and Israelis have seen a Rise in Anti-Semitism here, and in Europe! They...

understandibly feel threatened already! Have you paid attention to that?

Hamas started this - I hope they are destroyed, hope more hostages returned alive, but there is conduct in war to some degree and Bibi has, the IDF has been excessive in their conduct! Too many innocent babies, toddlers, children have been injured, or killed, and I'm sure there are tweens, teens, and adult Palestinians who don't approve of Hamas, and they're injured, and dead, too.

[Behind the Aegis]

126. Anti-Jewish hate crimes quadrupled in San Francisco in 2023

Hate crimes targeting Jews more than quadrupled in San Francisco last year compared with 2022, data from the San Francisco Police Department shows, spurred in large part by a dramatic uptick following the Oct. 7 terrorist attack in Israel.

SFPD recorded 23 anti-Jewish hate crimes in the city last year — as many as in the previous five years combined. In 2022, there were five; in 2021, there were eight.

More than half of last year’s hate crimes occurred in October.

The increase after Oct. 7 coincides with national trends for large American cities, according to Brian Levin, professor emeritus of criminal justice at CSU, San Bernardino, and the founder of its Center for the Study of Hate and Extremism.v


Screenshot from CCTV footage of the Schneerson Center in San Francisco, Feb. 1, 2023, as an intruder fires blanks into the room during a study session.


SFPD reported anti-Jewish hate crimes 2023. (Photo/Courtesy of SFPD)

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"When the Jews feel targeted like the Palestinians they will understand what a huge mistake it has been." Uh-huh.

[Voltaire2]

137. Iran has approximately zero capability to

‘Bomb the crap out of Israel’.

[Ping Tung]

64. Rachel Corrie again?

https://www.npr.org/2024/03/30/1241231447/rachel-corrie-gaza-palestinians-aid-israel-hamas-war

21 years after her death in Gaza, Palestinians remember U.S. activist Rachel Corrie

AMMAN, Jordan — Twenty-one years ago this month, Rachel Corrie, a young American activist, was protesting the Israeli demolition of homes in the Gaza Strip. Bulldozers had already destroyed the surrounding houses in the neighborhood of Rafah where she was based; on March 16, 2003, they came for the Nasrallah family home where the college student was staying.

Corrie, wearing an orange fluorescent vest and speaking through a bullhorn, was determined to stop them. Standing alone on a mound of earth in the path of the armored vehicle, she expected the Israeli bulldozer approaching her to come to a halt, as other bulldozers had done when faced with international protesters.

But it kept going, and, as her fellow activists screamed and tried to stop it, the 23-year-old college student from Olympia, Washington, was crushed to death. The Nasrallah family's children watched in horror through a crack in their garden wall.

Since her death, Corrie's legacy has echoed through the years in Gaza and the region, where people name their children after her. It still resonates in the United States, where her journals were turned into books and a play. Her death two decades ago points to a continuing military occupation of Gaza and the destruction of Palestinian civil society in Gaza, where the World Bank estimates Israel has destroyed almost half of all homes since October, when the war with Hamas started.

[EX500rider]

79. Trying to stop a D9 armored bulldozer with your body was never going to be a good idea

They have very limited visibility to the front thru the slat amor and over the big blade.

[Ping Tung]

82. Destroying peoples' houses was always a bad idea..and still is.

[EX500rider]

88. They weren't even bulldozing houses when she was killed

An IDF officer testified in court that her death was accidental because the bulldozer operator did not see Corrie due to the vehicle's obstructed view, and that on that day they were only clearing vegetation and rubble from houses that were previously demolished, and that no new houses were slated for demolition

[TeamProg]

69. Reality check: It has never been about "destroying Hamas".

Anonymous opinion found at WaPo.

Reality check: It has never been about "destroying Hamas". That's absurd. IDF officers are very smart people. They know better than anyone that military force cannot destroy a social and political movement deeply embedded in Gazan society. That's just the cover story they put out to those gullible enough to believe it. And there are many. No, the real, underlying story is simply genocide: to destroy Gaza itself, its institutions, its medical care system, its schools, its economy, its religious and cultural sites, its infrastructure, and of course its people.

That's why you deliberately kill writers, professors, doctors, aid workers, ambulance drivers, journalists, photographers, to crush the spirit of resistance in its people. It's to randomly kill enough Gazans to terrify and demoralize the rest , and herd the survivors into a much smaller space to control them better. That's ethnic cleansing with genocidal intent.

When you murder entire extended families sleeping in their beds; when you destroy bakeries providing precious bread to starving people(lots of Hamas hiding in those bakeries!); when you repeatedly bomb UN schools where people are sheltering from your bombs; when you attack hospitals and destroy the medical care system; when you bomb helpless fleeing people on the very road you told them to use to evacuate; when you cut off basic necessities of life (food, water, fuel, power) to an entire population; you have only one purpose, and it’s not to “target” Hamas. It’s to terrorize, demoralize and punish the entire population of Gaza. That is genocide.

This is not the "Israel-Hamas war", it's a war upon the entire people of Gaza. A rogue State that believes it is above the law is bombing and killing tens of thousands of women and children, who are helpless and trapped, with nowhere to run to. War crimes. Crimes against humanity. Starvation as a weapon of war. Ethnic cleansing.. Believe it. it's real. Cop to it. America, you are complicit.

[Avalon Sparks]

73. 100% agree with that opinion

Thank you for posting, it should be a mandatory read for all Americans.

[EX500rider]

78. If Israel was intent on "genocide" the death toll in Gaza after 1/2 a year would be in the 100's of thousands+

Fighting a non-uniformed foe who hides amoung civilians is not easy nor pretty.

[TeamProg]

80. Have to give Bibi credit for not making too, too obvious. But yes, the goal is to get all Palestinians out of Israel.

And, history will NOT BE KIND!

[EX500rider]

81. So how many Gazan's have been forced out of Gaza so far?

I believe all the ones who left thru Egypt wanted to leave and most had dual passports

[TeamProg]

85. Must I repeat myself? Come on kids, put on your "thinking caps"! I said "THE GOAL.." History will NOT be kind. nt

[EX500rider]

86. So none, got it, it's part of some future secret plan that you heard on the internet maybe?

[TeamProg]

93. I can imagine that response coming from the mind of a snotty child. Funny, huh?

HISTORY WILL NOT BE KIND

[Diraven]

96. The rest can't escape

Even if they want to. Israel has completely blockaded the land sea, and air since 2007.

[David__77]

97. It is a siege, supported by the US.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

98. Umm, you seem to be unaware that Egypt has blockaded their side of the border with Gaza

and won't let any Palestinians through, Israel has nothing to do with Egypt's actions and other Arab states are refusing to let any Palestinians into their countries.

[EX500rider]

100. Then it's obvious Israel doesn't want them to leave?

[Avalon Sparks]

127. Egypt is charging

Egypt is charging people 7,000 USD per person to escape. I know because I’m helping to fund someone and praying hat they are not slaughtered while I’m fund raising.

[EX500rider]

134. Well there's still over 2 million people in Gaza

So I guess his plan is really bad LOL

[Avalon Sparks]

125. How so

They obviously didn’t have the option of doing that, they didn’t have the weapons, otherwise why do they still need more weapons now?

Not sure how they could have used a nuke, due to their close proximity to the fall out.

So how exactly could they have wiped out 100,000?

[EX500rider]

133. Easy instead of trying to miss civilians they'd be trying to hit them

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Which would put the death toll up in the hundreds of thousands after 6 months, they could easily kill thousands a day if they were trying.
The weapons to do that I'm sure they have enough of just regular dumb bombs not the smart bombs that they need to avoid civilians.

If they killed around 20,000 civilians in 6 months that's only an average about 111 a day you don't think they could kill more than that if they were trying, it's a small area with 2 million people, give me a break.

On 1/15 they had already struck over 30,000 targets. https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/idf-says-it-has-killed-more-than-9000-hamas-operatives-in-gaza-since-start-of-war/

Not to mention the 11 million fliers dropped telling people to leave the North before the ground invasion and the several million texts & phone calls made telling people to leave certain buildings before bombing them.

like:
'I’m calling from Israeli intelligence. We have the order to bomb. You have two hours'
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-67327079

https://www.idf.il/en/mini-sites/the-hamas-terrorist-organization/how-is-the-idf-minimizing-harm-to-civilians-in-gaza/

[TheKentuckian]

150. They totally do. You can get 120 a day or less with bullets

You just refuse to accept that Israel is exercising ANY restraint so you have decided that munitions that can reduce a building to rubble cannot do more damage than they have.

If they were really trying to wipe out Gaza, it would have already been done or close enough to make little difference.

These people are fish in a barrel if that was the real intent.

[Autumn]

105. Thank you. That's a perfect description of what Israel's goals are. Hamas is their tool , everyone is Hamas.

Bullshit. I don't believe one thing Israel says any more. Netanyahu and his cabinet are murderous thugs.

[AloeVera]

116. Said it much better than I ever could.

Though I and others have been trying to say it for nearly 6 months now.

It's time people copped to it. Believe the evidence of your eyes if nothing else. The pictures of skeleton babies starting to emerge should really be the last straw against denial.

[LowerManhattanite]

99. This is a shock to NO ONE...

…with eyes, common sense, and basic knowledge of how the authorities in the country get down.

The shock is in us finding out about it.

[NickB79]

103. This is what happens far too regularly when Palestinians innocently walk up to IDF

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Plot twist: The 14 yr old tried to put a knife in the gut of the IDF soldier, all on camera. Yet these two guys that got shot and buried ignored warning shots and kept approaching.

[AZSkiffyGeek]

106. But he was just an innocent child!

[JI7]

129. There are A LoT of these type of incidents

I was looking for a video of one attack I had seen and a bunch of different videos through many years came up when I did a search for it.

[Mountainguy]

113. Cutting out the important part

The IDF claimed that the men approached the operational area in central Gaza in a "suspicious manner" and didn't respond to warning shots.

After they were killed, their bodies were buried using a bulldozer due to the fear of hidden explosives.



I suppose you'd just let them walk over to you and blow you up?


It's a war that Gaza started. This is what war looks like.

[Big Blue Marble]

117. It is not a war that Gaza started. N/T

[Mountainguy]

120. Yes it is

[MarineCombatEngineer]

135. It most certainly is,

HAMAS is the elected govt. of Gaza, therefore, Gaza did start the war, there's really no honest way to look at it than that.

[TheKentuckian]

143. It was an Easter Bunny from Pluto's moon.

The hostages just followed it to Gaza cuz it is adorable and Bunny's friends only rape them to keep up their self esteem.

That's the ticket!!!