General Discussion
Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsTrump is now posting PHOTOS of Judge Juan Merchan's daughter on Truth Social
Link to tweet
Link to tweet
ornotna
(11,542 posts)But then he has been for quite a while now.
Irish_Dem
(82,113 posts)We know he is a ruthless sociopath who will burn it all down to get his way.
If only we had a system of laws to protect society from such evil.
Ohio Joe
(21,898 posts)The laws exist, the judge decided to not include his daughter or himself in the gag order
My guess is as a big Fuck you, you sick fuck, we are not afraid.
Let the sick fuck flail
He just looks more deranged. I fully expect the judge and his daughter are being watched over.
We need to stop blaming anyone other than the sick fuck for the actions the sick fuck takes.
Irish_Dem
(82,113 posts)To protect society from a ruthless criminal who is putting many in danger.
That is not about Trump. That is about the failure of our legal system.
BlueKota
(5,526 posts)worse like they did on January 6. He should have to await for his days in court in a cell.
Trueblue Texan
(4,575 posts)Ohio Joe
(21,898 posts)What you are blaming them for here is not in justices control until the judge gags him on it.
Put the blame where it belongs
On the sick fuck.
walkingman
(11,101 posts)brush
(61,033 posts)It's not complicated. Revoke his bail and put his ass in jail until trial.
Ohio Joe
(21,898 posts)Why blame any justice dept?
brush
(61,033 posts)He's violated the terms of his release.
Ohio Joe
(21,898 posts)Just a few posts up in this sub-thread.
brush
(61,033 posts)trump violated terms of his release. His bail should be revoke for threatening the president and a judge's daughter.
Don't you agree?
Ohio Joe
(21,898 posts)You know and I know what the mob boss means
Weve seen it before.
Did he violate the terms? No, the judge omitted himself and his family from the gag order. Did he threaten the President? He posted a pic from someone also selling one of the sick fuck in the same position
Should that guy get locked up for selling both?
Fuck me slowly with a chainsaw
We are Democrats, not magats
Dont make me defend the rule of law like this
Im done for tonight
Know that I love you though brush.
brush
(61,033 posts)Put his ass in jail. Let the actual trump attorneys appeal his bail being revoked if they want to. We all know it will just be another attempt to delay the April 15 Manhattan DA's hush money trial from starting. That won't happen though as it's state not federal.
DENVERPOPS
(13,003 posts)He is actually egging this behavior on.......He knows full fucking well, that ANYTHING the legal system does to him will help even more his Trumphumpers to think they really are on a witch hunt. If the legal system makes ANY move, it further elevates him to Martyrdom in his followers eyes. Tied in with the Religious Zealot followers he wants to control, he has made several inferences that the treatment he is receiving, is no different than Jesus being deceived and crucified.......
Anyone remember the lunatic fanatic who grabbed his assault weapon and went to the Pizza Parlor to attack Hillary who was running a child sex trafficking ring in the basement...??? He was elevated to a higher place for his willingness to act on a totally bullshit fabricated un-fathomable thing he had heard from the Radical Right Wing Fantasy Group....
Look at how they elevated that punk kid who's mother bought him an assault weapon, and drove him to a rally where he went insane killing one, and injuring others......The Republicans made a HeroClassOne out of him, and still are......
Can you imagine anything better to elevate Trump's standing among his TrumpHumpers than the "Biden" legal system doing anything to punishment him??????
If they do nothing to him legally, it is a win for him and the Republican Propaganda that helps show they Legal system run by Biden and Democrats don't have a case and are just singling him out for political persecution......If they do anything, it fits into his rantings about the liberal left Biden psychos going after him, and is even better........
It is well engineered and orchestrated to make a mockery of the Legal System, and either way it is a Win-Win for Republicans and Trump....
AND.....if anything actually happens to the Judge, daughter, or any member of the Judge's family, it will be justified in the Trumphumpers minds........It's the ol' adage: "The means is justified for the end"
yardwork
(69,538 posts)One mentally ill person shouldn't have this much power.
Ohio Joe
(21,898 posts)So
tfg is the head of a cult
You know this, I know this
Everyone knows this. When he denigrates someone or even just shows their picture, we know its an order to the cultists to act. You know this, I know this, everyone knows this.
So
Here are the options
Act like a magat and just lock him up
Or
Act like a Democrat and follow the rule of law, and prove things in court.
Yup
it fucking sucks because we
KNOW.
I dont like it
I WILL respect it. I WILL be a democrat.
yardwork
(69,538 posts)People are in jail for much less.
Ohio Joe
(21,898 posts)The rich can buy delays I dont deny that But he is not escaping Justice is coming for him.
jaxexpat
(7,794 posts)It has long been a respected legal principle that "justice delayed is justice denied". Justice is definitely in a state of intentional delay by those whose entire mission and justification is to serve under the constitution as the supreme arbiters of justice for all this country. They fail even as we speak, intentionally delaying for political purposes, they've gotten away with this for too long. Where, in your faith of Trump's eventual rendezvous with destiny, do you store these factual observations so they don't disturb the very thing which they are currently set to destroy, domestic tranquility?
BlueKota
(5,526 posts)Enforcing the law, however, should also be high on our list too.
I can't speak for others, but my issue is with gag orders being issued, but then when he violates them, none of the consequences that are supposed to accompany them end up being applied.
It reminds me of a routine that Robin Williams did about the movie Beverly Hills Cop. He said it was unrealistic for Eddy Murphy to portray them as cool and efficient at taking down serious criminals. He said that if a real Beverly Hills Cop caught someone committing a crime they'd just say, "stop or I'll say stop again."
Yes he has been indicted, but has yet to even go on trial for his most serious
crimes because even when former judges, prosecutors, and even defense attorneys say there is no true legal basis for appeal, he gets granted them anyway, and it keeps happening over and over.
That's why I am frustrated and fearful. That whether he wins or loses at the ballot box, he's going to try to do what he keeps advertising he will do, unless he is held responsible for what he's already done. If our authorities continue to just cross their fingers and hope for the best until November, it might already be too late.
Major Nikon
(36,927 posts)The only way he gets away with any of this is because the entire GOP is either a fringe nut who will do anything he says or they are an enabler. There are virtually no Republicans that are standing up and calling bullshit on any of it. The part HRC got wrong is it isn't just half of them that are deplorable. It's all of them.
soldierant
(9,368 posts)the judge did not include himself or the DA because, since they are elected officials, they are public figures. That sounds to me more like a libel suit than a criminal case, but at least it makes a kind of sense.
Deuxcents
(27,551 posts)gab13by13
(32,645 posts)Ohio Joe
(21,898 posts)A half billion in fines and 90+ felonies? Is that nothing in your world?
Response to Ohio Joe (Reply #58)
Post removed
claudette
(5,455 posts)that I can see for violating gag orders a gazillion times!
Irish_Dem
(82,113 posts)We have been totally fooled into thinking there is equal justice under the law.
niyad
(133,729 posts)stage left
(3,341 posts)Right with you there, niyad.
no_hypocrisy
(55,256 posts)the tort of Invasion of Privacy/Public Disclosure of Private Facts.
Elements of the Claim
The tort of "public disclosure of private facts" is a state law claim of invasion of privacy. The Restatement of Torts, a legal treatise on common law, generalizes the claim as:
1. Giving publicity to a matter that concerns the private life of another,
2. Where the matter would be highly offensive to a reasonable person, and
3. The matter is not of legitimate public concern
https://www.findlaw.com/injury/torts-and-personal-injuries/invasion-of-privacy--public-disclosure-of-private-facts.html#:~:text=The%20tort%20of%20%22public%20disclosure,to%20a%20reasonable%20person%2C%20and
Irish_Dem
(82,113 posts)no_hypocrisy
(55,256 posts)Buns_of_Fire
(19,206 posts)of emotional distress." Proving intent is always the sticky part, but screw it -- bury the bastard in lawsuits until Ronald McDonald and/or Colonel Sanders provide a more permanent solution.
Renew Deal
(85,314 posts)Irish_Dem
(82,113 posts)gab13by13
(32,645 posts)he would have surrogates threaten people. It's way too late to think about DOJ holding Trump or his inner circle accountable, maybe the states of New York and Georgia can carry the ball?
DOJ should have prosecuted the Stormy Daniels campaign finance criminal case 3 years ago, Mueller had "individual one" all teed up for Garland.
It makes more sense to me to have the feds prosecute Trump since he was running for a federal office.
Too late now, Time Mattered.
Irish_Dem
(82,113 posts)A ruthless sociopath who will burn it all down to get his way is on the loose.
And the legal system cannot protect us from him.
BlueKota
(5,526 posts)"we aren't going to anything about it," regarding what he re-posted about the President.
orleans
(37,146 posts)niyad
(133,729 posts)bdamomma
(69,614 posts)what a POS, Enough put him in jail please. He is putting lives in danger.
BlueWaveNeverEnd
(14,845 posts)msongs
(74,090 posts)orleans
(37,146 posts)BlueKota
(5,526 posts)the judge is trying to appear unbiased just like most of the judiciary is. In the meantime in bending over backwards to achieve that,they are failing to protect the overall interests and security of the American people.
Sometimes I wonder if tfg were to actually shoot someone in front of over a hundred people, whether or not they would finally arrest him and put in jail, or say, "we can't because it will look too partisan, sorry about that?" I have never seen anything this crazy in my life.
gab13by13
(32,645 posts)1 for the rich - 1 for the poor
1 for Magats - 1 for Democrats
Cha
(320,315 posts)Last edited Sat Mar 30, 2024, 09:51 PM - Edit history (2)
orleans
(37,146 posts)Cha
(320,315 posts)distinctly remember typing Shi!
orleans
(37,146 posts)you're welcome!
Cha
(320,315 posts)Ping Tung
(4,370 posts)He's trying to bully his way out of going to jail by provoking his cult to attack or intimidate the courts.
He's trying to commit verbal homicide.
IcyPeas
(25,728 posts)Is he up to something?
dalton99a
(95,103 posts)and then hell do it again
Captain Zero
(8,949 posts)Let's report his every movement that we know about.
TwilightZone
(28,836 posts)Basing our behavior on that of Trump would be misguided. It would be no less problematic.
WiVoter
(1,681 posts)Someone is killed? I hope Im wrong, but my guess is before the fall election.
viva la
(4,633 posts)And then use it to appeal the verdict against him, or get the judge to recuse himself.
Filthy -- Trump is about the worst person in the world. I mean, there are some serial murderers who are worse, but he's almost as bad.
gab13by13
(32,645 posts)than any serial murderer.
viva la
(4,633 posts)stage left
(3,341 posts)American deaths from Covid and still counting. Many Americans are still unvaccinated because they listened to him and they're getting Covid over and over again. Trump is, by this standard, i the greatest serial killer who ever lived. If he's convicted of a crime in a court of law will he finally go to jail where he should have been a long, long, agonizingly long time ago? Or we all in hell and he is our eternal torment?
HandmaidsTaleUntold
(406 posts)Seal Team 6 elimination mission.
Martin68
(28,026 posts)FinnOceanDog
(2 posts)K&R
kimbutgar
(27,498 posts)You can bet if a Liberal politician did this theyd be in jail by now!
PlutosHeart
(1,445 posts)who are sending the message they will do nothing to bring this man to face justice.
Warpy
(114,650 posts)He's a danger to everyone concerned with his case, plus their families.
He needs to be stopped before he gets someone hurt.
nature-lover
(1,864 posts)madamesilverspurs
(16,525 posts)And he's relying on his StandBack/StandBy Brigade to provide hunting services.
.
Pas-de-Calais
(10,289 posts)Lock
The
Forker
Up
Already
!!!!
RB77
(99 posts)Or any photos, refuse to go to truth social - - - (koodies) does anybody have a more valid link?
niyad
(133,729 posts)BWdem4life
(3,079 posts)Dave Bowman
(7,393 posts)DemocraticPatriot
(5,410 posts)Maybe he could teach Trump how to play the guitar,
or sing. He already knows how to dance-- sort of---
And then maybe Trump could join John Hinkley's act, and aid in his re-integration into society,
and go away from politics--- sort of the way that Bush Jr. started painting,
and we now very rarely hear from him.....
For whatever way that Trump would screw Hinkley over after that,
and any resulting consequences thereof, I take no responsibility.
"Are you talkin' to me? ARE YOU TALKIN' TO ME??!"
~ Al Pacino in 'Taxi Driver'
Dave Bowman
(7,393 posts)Lock him the fuck up. In a padded cell.
Blue Owl
(59,522 posts)Praise Jayzus and everyone go read your tRump bibles now!!!1!
claudette
(5,455 posts)do anything. The orange criminal will get away with it - he always does. judges are letting down our American system by ignoring Dump's constant violations.
Qutzupalotl
(15,849 posts)Going to jail for posting pictures of the judge's daughter? That might not garner much sympathy. Please proceed.
Takket
(23,775 posts)keep attacking judge's and their families/staff.
If the judge does something to retaliate, that shows the judge can no longer render a fair trial, so drumpf will demand it gets tossed out on appeal if he's found guilty. or the judge can recuse themselves, drumpf attacks the next judge, it goes on forever and there is never a trial.
lock him up. enough is enough.
applegrove
(132,944 posts)a fair trial from a judge whose child he has harassed.
Ferrets are Cool
(23,039 posts)Azathoth
(4,677 posts)babylonsister
(172,797 posts)arrested/thrown in jail. Maybe he figures he'd get the sympathy donations, which he probably would.
Kid Berwyn
(24,937 posts)Threatening a judges daughter to pressure a criminal proceeding is a CRIME someone who thinks hes above the law would do to avoid responsibility.
Trump thinks SCOTUS will save him. Perhaps hes in for a big surprise. If not, time for a new SCOTUS.
returnee
(970 posts)He has an obvious deeply entrenched life strategy of pushing to the limits of social norms and the law and beyond. He gets challenged and then either backs off and tries to normalize his statements or behavior and/or sues, and then drags things out in court, or settles.
Now he has criminal charges which can only be settled by trial. True to form, he delays. In his desperation he is now also over-stepping into potential new criminality with stochastic terrorism. Not only does this agitate and mobilize his base, which is as bloodthirsty as he is, but it presses the court to possibly overstep, thereby allowing for new delays via new motions, but also for grounds for appeal.
This is high level sociopathy, meeting most if not all criteria for all the cluster B personality disorders. This is illness that cannot, for the most part, be effectively treated psychiatrically, outside a forensic psychiatric institution.
NH Ethylene
(31,388 posts)Restrict his access to the Internet and phone. Allow him access only with supervision and/or on a delayed broadcast.
Trueblue Texan
(4,575 posts)He needs to wait out his appeals in jail, like every other criminal defendant who demonstrates he is unable to control himself in a civil way. If just one time a judge would do it, it would wake his sorry ass up. We've still got 88 felony counts to pursue against him. Lock him up, convict him, and let him appeal. 88 more pending.
world wide wally
(21,836 posts)Just like any parent would do with their 12 year old brat who behaved the same way.
Magoo48
(6,734 posts)D23MIURG23
(3,138 posts)Orrex
(67,340 posts)Massive fines are nice, but I'll believe them when he's paid them. Until then, file them under "minimal actual consequences."
And let's be sure to attack anyone who expresses frustration at the perceived "delay," because they're the real Trump enablers.
vapor2
(4,827 posts)I suggest he demands family intervention. He knows there will be no consequences for any of his actions
LetMyPeopleVote
(181,598 posts)