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TheBlackAdder

(29,981 posts)
Sat Mar 30, 2024, 11:36 PM Mar 2024

TSF calls on Pres. Biden to apologize to both Catholics and Christians

Trump's campaign demanded Biden apologize for declaring Easter as "Trans Visibility Day," but the former president's own former advisor blew apart that claim by showing that the date for Trans Visibility Day was set 10 years ago and Biden wasn't involved.
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"We call on Joe Biden's failing campaign and White House to issue an apology to the millions of Catholics and Christians across America who believe tomorrow is for one celebration only," the statement says.

Bloomberg columnist Matthew Yglesias asked, "Is Trump’s campaign drawing a distinction here between 'Catholics' and 'Christians?'"

https://www.rawstory.com/trump-slur-catholics-christians/



It was no accident, he probably thinks they are different. Yet, didn't he appoint three Catholics to SCOTUS?
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TSF calls on Pres. Biden to apologize to both Catholics and Christians (Original Post) TheBlackAdder Mar 2024 OP
and those 'other than' Catholics and Christians, idjots??? elleng Mar 2024 #1
Evangelicals think Catholics and Christians are two different things. shrike3 Mar 2024 #2
This Is True. They Also Tend To Think "Blacks" And "Americans" Are Different Things ChoppinBroccoli Mar 2024 #3
I didn't hear that, re Mitch. Yikes. shrike3 Mar 2024 #7
Snopes says: usonian Mar 2024 #10
THIS malaise Mar 2024 #21
Wow. Forgot about that one. Worse than his glitches. shrike3 Mar 2024 #25
Weird isn't it.......................... Lovie777 Mar 2024 #30
I'm afraid you're right. shrike3 Mar 2024 #32
I heard Catholics referred to as "idol worshippers" DBoon Mar 2024 #43
I have, too. shrike3 Mar 2024 #44
Before my Rebl2 Mar 2024 #45
exactly this FHRRK Mar 2024 #47
So Trump just managed to insult all the Catholics... DemocraticPatriot Mar 2024 #48
The real story is that tRump broadcasts his breathtaking stupidity during a religious holiday Blue Owl Mar 2024 #4
Waiting for his obligatory heathenistic or smut posts on Easter. Remember, the day is only about TRUMP! TheBlackAdder Mar 2024 #6
Pffft--T**mp "calls on Biden" from what authority exactly, as bible salesman? Drum Mar 2024 #5
TSF Apologize for being. Cha Mar 2024 #8
TSF? tirebiter Mar 2024 #9
The Sick F**k. usonian Mar 2024 #11
It is what Biden called him. usedtobedemgurl Mar 2024 #12
Hey, Donnie sicko, suck on this. usonian Mar 2024 #13
It's a very, very long time since I last heard that phrase. Eugene Mar 2024 #14
But he did get the memo, a different one JHB Mar 2024 #37
I think he mentioned Catholics specifically to draw the President into the fray EYESORE 9001 Mar 2024 #15
Hey Catholics: Trump doesn't think you are Christians dalton99a Mar 2024 #16
Trump did not invent the distinction. Ms. Toad Mar 2024 #17
the fact that there are a handful that believe this stopdiggin Mar 2024 #18
Irrelevant SocialDemocrat61 Mar 2024 #19
Religion was invented to control the masses. Hope22 Mar 2024 #35
We need more videos of evangelicals blurting out "Catholics aren't Christian!" put in front of Catholic voters JHB Mar 2024 #38
I've been trying to explain this to my wife unweird Mar 2024 #40
Demand all you want mr. SickFuck. spanone Mar 2024 #20
Catholics are Christians obamanut2012 Mar 2024 #22
In fact, weren't Catholics TxGuitar Mar 2024 #23
St. Peter WA-03 Democrat Mar 2024 #27
I didn't know Easter was celebrated on March 31st every year. LiberalFighter Mar 2024 #24
It doesn't. boston bean Mar 2024 #28
easter is a what we call a moveable feast . also the draw of the calander and a few other factors. AllaN01Bear Mar 2024 #33
Blasphemous Bible Hawking Jesus Wannabe sez WHAT??? bucolic_frolic Mar 2024 #26
LOL! 😂 n /t Hope22 Mar 2024 #36
If trump wins the election the religious wars are not going to be pretty. Biophilic Mar 2024 #29
Even today... Hope22 Mar 2024 #39
Yup. One more reason why we must win the house and senate as well as the Presidency. Biophilic Mar 2024 #41
snork. today is also trans vis day. always has been stinkybutt, AllaN01Bear Mar 2024 #31
the moral majiority is neither and either and pat roberson and donald trump dont represent me . AllaN01Bear Mar 2024 #34
I call on The Sick Fuck to shut the fuck up. n/t LuckyCharms Mar 2024 #42
lol. What a dumbass! DenaliDemocrat Mar 2024 #46
#DementiaDonnie: "Catholics and Christians" area51 Mar 2024 #49
Stephanie Ruhl fact checks the far right lie that Biden proclaimed Easter Sunday as Trans Day of Visibility LetMyPeopleVote Apr 2024 #50
 

shrike3

(5,370 posts)
2. Evangelicals think Catholics and Christians are two different things.
Sat Mar 30, 2024, 11:45 PM
Mar 2024

Where he got the language, I imagine.

ChoppinBroccoli

(3,900 posts)
3. This Is True. They Also Tend To Think "Blacks" And "Americans" Are Different Things
Sat Mar 30, 2024, 11:52 PM
Mar 2024

Just like Mitch McConnell let slip a while back.

usonian

(26,599 posts)
10. Snopes says:
Sun Mar 31, 2024, 12:23 AM
Mar 2024

Did Mitch McConnell Distinguish 'African Americans' From 'Americans'?
YES

Manríquez: Leader McConnell, what's your message for voters of color who are concerned that without the John L. Lewis Voting Rights Act, they're not going to be able to vote in the midterms?

McConnell: Well, the concern is misplaced, because if you look at the statistics, African-American voters are voting in just as high a percentage as Americans.



https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/mitch-mcconnell-african-americans/

Definition of the GOP: racist, racist, racist, racist, racist ...

Lovie777

(23,755 posts)
30. Weird isn't it..........................
Sun Mar 31, 2024, 10:22 AM
Mar 2024

they are all considered Christians. I'm Christian Methodist Episcopal but alas the rate these psycho evangelists are headed most of the Christian denominations will be considered non and avoid because in these psychos' brains they are the pure one.

Rebl2

(17,937 posts)
45. Before my
Sun Mar 31, 2024, 01:21 PM
Mar 2024

husband retired he had an evangelical he worked with say Catholicism was a cult.

Blue Owl

(59,634 posts)
4. The real story is that tRump broadcasts his breathtaking stupidity during a religious holiday
Sat Mar 30, 2024, 11:53 PM
Mar 2024

TheBlackAdder

(29,981 posts)
6. Waiting for his obligatory heathenistic or smut posts on Easter. Remember, the day is only about TRUMP!
Sat Mar 30, 2024, 11:58 PM
Mar 2024

Me, Me, Me, Me, Oh, there's that Jesus guy. I'm the second coming. Me, Me, Me...

"Nobody was more persecuted than Trump. Jesus had it easy, I tell you."

usedtobedemgurl

(2,071 posts)
12. It is what Biden called him.
Sun Mar 31, 2024, 12:28 AM
Mar 2024

It has been going around for weeks now. It is easy to overlook.

Eugene

(67,331 posts)
14. It's a very, very long time since I last heard that phrase.
Sun Mar 31, 2024, 12:38 AM
Mar 2024

It mostly came from a Pentecostal zealot college classmate
who was sharing vile anti-Catholic propaganda.

Apparently MF45 didn't get the memo saying that
conservative Christians are supposed to be on same team.

JHB

(38,339 posts)
37. But he did get the memo, a different one
Sun Mar 31, 2024, 10:39 AM
Mar 2024

Remember, his background is New York City. Making a distinction between Catholics and "Christians" (meaning certain varieties of, shall we say, "religiously correct" Protestants) is not something you readily pick up in that environment (although with Fred Trump as a father, I guess anything is possible).

That distinction is a lot more prominent in heavily Protestant fundamentalist/evangelical areas, where anti-Catholic propaganda that may as well come from the 1500s is part of the landscape.

Whoever wrote that for Trump worded it -- either by reflex or in an attempt to cater to certain parties -- to take the radical evangelical position. Catholics were "on the same team" by being mentioned at all.

EYESORE 9001

(29,889 posts)
15. I think he mentioned Catholics specifically to draw the President into the fray
Sun Mar 31, 2024, 12:51 AM
Mar 2024

Joe Biden is too smart to fall into this trap baited with malarkey.

Ms. Toad

(38,824 posts)
17. Trump did not invent the distinction.
Sun Mar 31, 2024, 02:27 AM
Mar 2024

I'm always am amazed that when Trump says something people assume he made it up out of whole cloth, without checking to see if it is a real thing. (Not just you - the author of the tweet, the OP, others in this thread, etc.)

One of many references for the concept: https://g3min.org/roman-catholicism-is-not-christianity/

stopdiggin

(15,645 posts)
18. the fact that there are a handful that believe this
Sun Mar 31, 2024, 02:51 AM
Mar 2024

(Catholics not Christians) does not immunize it from being hopelessly ignorant twaddle.

And - when emanating from the mouth of Trump - who is about as clueless and shorn of religion as anyone we have ever seen in high office - it become doubly ignorant and artless twaddle.

SocialDemocrat61

(8,045 posts)
19. Irrelevant
Sun Mar 31, 2024, 08:34 AM
Mar 2024

He still made the distinction. Just because someone didn’t “invent” the N word, they don’t get a pass for saying it.

Hope22

(4,883 posts)
35. Religion was invented to control the masses.
Sun Mar 31, 2024, 10:33 AM
Mar 2024

I accompanied my Baptist sister to church as her caregiver. When she was in Idaho the words from the pulpit fought with the Mormons. When we moved her to Ohio, I was thankful, thinking the message would cease….oops it turns out the Catholics were not real Christians. It never ends!

JHB

(38,339 posts)
38. We need more videos of evangelicals blurting out "Catholics aren't Christian!" put in front of Catholic voters
Sun Mar 31, 2024, 10:42 AM
Mar 2024

A lot of Catholics have never been directly exposed to that sort of stuff, and it comes as quite a shock. Particularly when they realize that much of the talk about "Christian values" was coming from people who didn't include them as Christians.

unweird

(3,306 posts)
40. I've been trying to explain this to my wife
Sun Mar 31, 2024, 11:03 AM
Mar 2024

She was raised Ukrainian Orthodox and switched/converted (?) to Roman Catholic. And hasn’t been exposed to the Baptist/evangelical concept of their own singular salvation. Growing up in the Bible Belt I am well acquainted with much of their dogma.

AllaN01Bear

(29,807 posts)
33. easter is a what we call a moveable feast . also the draw of the calander and a few other factors.
Sun Mar 31, 2024, 10:24 AM
Mar 2024

Biophilic

(6,685 posts)
29. If trump wins the election the religious wars are not going to be pretty.
Sun Mar 31, 2024, 10:21 AM
Mar 2024

Seriously, they will keep fighting to see who gets the most power. I don't think it will get as bloody as the Protestant-Catholic wars of the past, but there are a lot of hidden feelings that will be allowed to come out. I remember my parents being appalled when John Kennedy was running because he was a Catholic and "a Catholic should never be president because they can't be trusted." My parents were upper middle class, college educated and considered themselves relatively liberal for republicans. All hatred and those feelings went back underground after Kennedy was elected. When strong feelings are simply pushed down and not acknowledged they don't go away, they just wait for another opportunity to fight.

Hope22

(4,883 posts)
39. Even today...
Sun Mar 31, 2024, 10:55 AM
Mar 2024

Our village decorates for Winter holidays and this year for the first time our Postmaster decided to join the festivities. Greenery and bows were set and all was well. Easter rolls around and out came some type of egg signs or bunnies or some such thing that clearly defined Easter. The postmaster was asked to take the decorations down due to the religious nature on government buildings. Well did that stir up half of the people. The decorations were removed but the disgruntled on the local FB page keep bringing up the issue. This week a local woman died. She was an outspoken soul. This morning on the post office lawn there is a life size cardboard cut out of this woman, propped in a lawn chair. Easter eggs hang from the bushes and trees with signs reading Happy Easter and Please take and egg. Inside the eggs are bible verses. In the center of town a dead woman cut out sits. It is really something. The ‘persecuted’ carry their perceived slight forever. I too think when the violence begins it will get ugly fast!

AllaN01Bear

(29,807 posts)
34. the moral majiority is neither and either and pat roberson and donald trump dont represent me .
Sun Mar 31, 2024, 10:28 AM
Mar 2024
sry for the runon, its the only way i could express myself at the time .

DenaliDemocrat

(1,812 posts)
46. lol. What a dumbass!
Sun Mar 31, 2024, 02:37 PM
Mar 2024

Insulting Catholics by separating them from Christianity. Plus he left out the Orthodox entirely.

area51

(12,756 posts)
49. #DementiaDonnie: "Catholics and Christians"
Sun Mar 31, 2024, 09:42 PM
Mar 2024

WTF? Well, well, well: what will little Mikey Flynn do now that he's heard that his lord & master Trump thinks he's not a Christian?

LetMyPeopleVote

(182,160 posts)
50. Stephanie Ruhl fact checks the far right lie that Biden proclaimed Easter Sunday as Trans Day of Visibility
Tue Apr 2, 2024, 01:11 AM
Apr 2024

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