I guess these Hamas supporters forgot about Trump's muslim-ban *

[Oopsie Daisy]

* or they're just too ignorant to care.

Link to tweet

“Enjoy Trump, ‘cuz we’re never voting for Biden” A pro-Palestine protester says to Biden supporters leaving from tonight’s fundraiser in New York

Link to tweet

[AkFemDem]

1. THIS. It's the cognative disconnect that makes zero sense

Trump supports a ban on immigration from Islamic countries, a "loyalty" test from those already here, opposes citizenship for "Dreamers" and many immigrants already here, wants to cancel student visas, oh- and is in favor of arming Israel and would love to see Palestine annihilated.

But yeah, he'll probably be great for the anti-Israeli crowd.

[mgardener]

19. Kind of like women

Voting for Trump.

[0rganism]

38. kind of like anyone besides Trump

Voting for Trump.

ETA: On further reflection, it doesn't even make sense for TSF to vote for himself. He's already "served" as president, he has plenty of kompromat on everyone important, he obviously hates the work at which he rather sucked, he can sell confidential US intelligence and secrets as he likes, he already has a cult following, and he's clearly not going to be held accountable legally for all his crimes so even that purpose diminishes. There's no good reason in the world for him to want the job back -- he can simply retire loudly and gracelessly, to pass the remaining years in Florida cheating at golf as he would do anyway if elected. No need to go to all this trouble really, he has enough judges and bureaucrats in his pocket to keep him safe enough, minus a pesky civil case here and there.

Whatever motivates his 2024 campaign (probably 80% revenge + 20% misogyny and racism) is irrational, disconnected, and will likely harm himself and others. Which should scare us even more.

[Cha]

2. Or they're too Stupid to know what's actually going on.

Link to tweet

[yardwork]

3. It's impossible for me to express the contempt I feel for these people.

Pretending to care about children and innocents while they promote rape and murder.

[Cha]

5. Pro Hamas Pro TSF Assholes out to Destroy Amercia

one Stupid, Gaslit, Violent protest at a time.

[shrike3]

6. Certain people don't even seem to think the Genocide Joe chants are real.

I communicated with one yesterday.

[Cha]

7. I don't understand? The violent protesters are

out there in the streets screaming their Stupidity All over the Place.

[shrike3]

8. I was told yesterday by a longtime poster that they had "never heard" of actual people chanting such words.

Part of a rather bewildering exchange, I should say.

[Cha]

12. Yeah well, just because they

said they're never seen a clip of it happening doesn't alter Reality.

[shrike3]

13. This was someone very well-respected here. Too bad.

[shrike3]

4. I've said that here on DU.

Certain folk don't seem to care.

[moondust]

9. Not to excuse any of the carnage

in any way but...just for the record maybe somebody should ask them or preferably ask Hamas what they expected the reaction would be to their October 7 attack on Israel. I mean, they knew Israel had all sorts of U.S. weaponry and support and a radical RW government led by an uncompromising "strongman." The horrifying result was entirely predictable but they apparently didn't care or were too stupid to see it.

[HandmaidsTaleUntold]

22. Don't You Get It?

Bibi allowed the attack. He was aware. He wanted to use it. And I’m no expert but I bet Hamas also wanted the attack to galvanize support against a government that has been extremely oppressing them forever. Anyone who just supports Israel reminds me of Republicans supporting Bush invading Iraq. And what’s happens? Civilians suffer everywhere as usual.

[betsuni]

10. I wish all of them were paid and just over-acting their roles, but they're not, are they.

I just hate-read the most deeply stupid article criticizing Colbert and Kaling for hosting the Three Presidents event because if you're nice to Democrats for one second you are bad. All roads lead to Gaza and Biden controls everything that happens on the planet. These people need a new word to describe them. It's a new type of stupid. Or is it? I don't even know.

http://www.jezebel.com/mindy-kaling-stephen-colbert-deliver-all-kinds-of-cringe-at-biden-fundraiser

[shrike3]

14. Because Biden and only Biden can stop them. He can wave his magic presidential wand and it all will end.

Certain posters here have said as much.

[Sucha NastyWoman]

11. They are not the only group to threaten the party

Not naming names, but there are several that threatened to not vote Democratic, even though they would be far worse off under Republicans

[Enquiring_Mind]

15. This was a pretty moneyed affair

So I have to wonder - how did they get in? Did they lay out huge sums for admission? Force their way in?

[lapucelle]

32. Putin-loving, Uyghur-genocide-denying, maoist, billionaire tech bro Neville Roy Singham & his wife Jodie Evans.

The American Multimillionaire Marxists Funding Pro-Palestinian Rage

Neville Roy Singham and his wife Jodie Evans are China propagandists—and a primary source of the fury exploding on our streets

https://www.thefp.com/p/american-marxists-funding-pro-palestinian-rage

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A Global Web of Chinese Propaganda Leads to a U.S. Tech Mogul

The Times unraveled a financial network that stretches from Chicago to Shanghai and uses American nonprofits to push Chinese talking points worldwide.

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/08/05/world/europe/neville-roy-singham-china-propaganda.html

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Businessman Neville Roy Singham quietly sponsors an initiative opposing US assistance to Kyiv

https://www.intelligenceonline.com/corporate-intelligence/2022/11/11/businessman-neville-roy-singham-quietly-sponsors-an-initiative-opposing-us-assistance-to-kyiv,109863896-art

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The Big Business of Uyghur Genocide Denial

A New Lines investigation reveals a network of charities funneling millions into left-wing platforms that take Beijing’s side on the genocide allegations — and they’re all connected to an American tech magnate.

https://newlinesmag.com/reportage/the-big-business-of-uyghur-genocide-denial/

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"The People's Forum" is organizing and conducting anti-Israel protests across the country.



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Singham launders his funding of pro-Hamas, anti-Israel, anti-Biden "protests" through the Goldman Sachs Philanthropy Fund which distributes "charitable donations" at the direct request of donors.

The Influence Watch page on The People's Forum:

Funding

In 2019, The People’s Forum received $12 million through the Goldman Sachs Philanthropy Fund, a donor-advised fund provider. This was not the first time the Forum received a hefty sum in this manner: it was given $4,400,000 in 2018 and $2,500,000 in 2017 through the Philanthropy Fund.

https://www.influencewatch.org/non-profit/the-peoples-forum/

[NickB79]

16. A Pakistani friend of mine was furious about Gaza and the US hitting Houthis in Yemen

After airstrikes started in Yemen, he went on a Facebook rant about voting for Trump because fuck Biden, apparently.

Him, his parents, his brother, and his sister are all Muslim immigrants. He once asked me for advice on buying a gun for self defense during the Trump administration because of the anti-Muslim sentiment from the MAGA's.

I still can't wrap my mind around it. I haven't spoken to him in person for a few months now.

[shrike3]

17. Some people seem beyond logic.

Or just don't look ahead past next week.

[lapucelle]

33. It was just reported that the Houthis sentenced 9 men to death by cruxifiction and stoning for "sodomy".

'Egregious violations:' Houthis sentence 9 men to death on dubious 'sodomy' charges in Yemen

A Houthi court sentenced nine men to death on charges of “sodomy,” Human Rights Watch has found, while sentencing an additional 23 men to prison.

An investigation by the organization revealed that the 32 men were sentenced earlier this year on January 23. The nine death sentences included crucifixion and stoning, and an additional three were sentenced to public flogging, marking one of the most harrowing cases of civilians being sentenced for “immoral acts" under the conservative Islamist regime.

“In an abhorrent disregard for the rule of law, the Houthis are handing down death sentences and subjecting men to public mistreatment without a semblance of due process,” Niku Jafarnia, Yemen and Bahrain researcher at Human Rights Watch, said in a statement. “The Houthis are using these cruel measures to distract from their failure to govern and provide people in their territories with basic needs.”

The sentences were handed down after "egregious violations of Yemen’s own criminal procedural code," according to the organization. This included "blatant due process violations" such as law enforcement failing to provide arrest warrants and unlawfully confiscating the men’s phones.

https://www.advocate.com/news/houthis-death-sentence-sodomy-lgbtq

[Hekate]

18. It's one of the reasons I think they are idiots being led by malicious actors

[BlueKota]

20. They must have forgotten how TFG wants

to put Muslims in containment camps.

[brooklynite]

21. They're not "pro-Muslim", they're anti-colonial...

It's not that Israel is Jewish, it's that its seen as established by white Europeans who "invaded" the land of non-white Palestinians.

[LeftInTX]

25. Trump is not exactly my idea of an anti-colonialist

[Aussie105]

28. There is that.

How native Palestinians were treated by the Israeli settlers since the new Israel was established is also part of that.

[LeftInTX]

29. What on earth would Trump do about curtailing Israeli settlements etc?

[LetMyPeopleVote]

23. To the Muslims who say they won't vote for Biden next year, don't say you haven't been warned.

Link to tweet

[mopinko]

24. this is not organic. agitprop.

someone pls follow the money. watermelon isis is astroturf.

[Efilroft Sul]

31. All roads lead to Putin.

Who else stands to gain the most from this type of division?

[mopinko]

34. most likely.

[mopinko]

39. china has a lot to gain, too.

they dont like what’s going on in ukraine.

[Aussie105]

26. Indignant and irrational rage?

Or paid for actors?

[Omnipresent]

27. So many medical bills...

Premiums keep going up, two co pays. They need to see optometrists and psychiatrists, being so Blind with rage.

[LeftInTX]

30. Just what Putin wants!

[Behind the Aegis]

35. Exactly!

It is the classic pincher move...on the right; immigrants are invading, and on the left, the evil Jews are on the march.

[LeftInTX]

36. Even bigger than Jews: "Evil western capitalist, colonizers are committing genocide of indigenous, poor, brown people"

Capitalists are what really get the Putin crowd riled up. It's all about turning people against Biden.

[betsuni]

37. Say the words "Late stage capitalism" and all the dogs start barking.

[LeftInTX]

40. I'm not trying to minimize anti-Semitism on the left because it sadly exists.

I know the left is generally critical about Israel.

However, groups like Nation of Islam have spread anti-Semitism due to their pro-Palestine, anti-Israel collaboration with Arabs in the Middle East. Way back in the early 60's, they effectively projected Palestine's problems as problems in the US. Their view was fringe at the time. They broke civil rights relationships with Jews in the US. I did not realize until recently how mainstream this has become. In their efforts to be pro-Palestine, anti-Semitic propaganda has also been spread.

The US support for Israel has been merged into a cause célèbre. How much we support Israel is debatable, but sadly the Middle East is not a happy place. It doesn't matter where you live in the Middle East. It doesn't matter how much we support Israel or don't support Israel. The Middle East is just not a happy place. It's a place where the public traditionally does not trust governments. This might be one reason why a two-state solution just isn't popular.