Okay... I gotta know! What the FUCK is wrong with Nina Turner attacking the Democratic Party like this?!

[Oopsie Daisy]

My favorite quote in his excellent rant is "... I guess you'll never know because Ohio said hell-to-the-no TWICE to yo' Black azz! Hey Shontel! Hee-hee-hee! "

Then there's this quote (near the end of his rant) is the cherry on top "SHE ain't for us, she's for HERSELF. Otherwise she woulda used that time to tell Black men what policies are available to them that they can benefit from."

Link to tweet

@ninaturner How exactly is the Democratic Party emasculating black men? Nina turner’s entire talking point is divisive & rooted in misogyny. Not to mention she just emasculated & erased all the black men leading the Democratic Party.

[BootinUp]

1. It is normal for her to be wrong. nt

[TheBlackAdder]

52. She doesn't get attention supporting the Dems, but being a Democratic Party Contrarian she sure does.

Like Tulsi Gabbard before she finally flipped.

[hlthe2b]

2. She may "claim" to be a Democrat, but... She is, however, any number or words/terms I won't use.

She projects the "angry, aggrievement" of MAGA, ironically.

[brewens]

107. The first time I listened to her some Jesus crap came out of her mouth. I'm watching a political show

and that is the last thing I need to hear from a so-called democrat. Religion needs to be out of our politics and government.

[Cha]

3. Consider the source.. Turner spewed Voting for Pres Biden would be like eatng a Bowl of shit.

I see so many Strong Black men that I follow on Twitter for years who are well respected who hate NT. And, when I say well respected I mean they support Democracy.

Yes, they do Support Pres Biden.

[betsuni]

38. The voting for Biden is like eating half a bowl of shit "It's still shit" comment must not be forgotten.

Our Revolution.

[Cha]

40. Yeah, Turner owns that Stupidity

Forever

[Oopsie Daisy]

62. Yes, that group LOVES Nina Turner... therefore I'm suspicious of ALL of their other endorsements *

* because it shows me that they are disloyal to the Democratic Party.

[betsuni]

63. Justice Democrats, Our Revolution, DSA, etc. all hate the Democratic Party for no rational reason.

Something about a BS revolution recycled from the '60s.

[Oopsie Daisy]

100. I wonder how much longer it will take before she teams up with the "Democracy Now!" propaganda machine.

[betsuni]

101. They think the Tea Party is grassroots and Trump voters are secretly leftist populists.

Nutty!

[hlthe2b]

4. Good reply on that twitter thread:

Link to tweet

[Oopsie Daisy]

18. That's perfect! What a great meme!

[JustAnotherGen]

28. She needs to go away

She's made her millions - she can go away now.

[Ocelot II]

5. She's been doing that for awhile - she's not a friend.

[brooklynite]

6. My wife and I once had lunch with her...

In 2014 she was a rising star in the Ohio Democratic Party. They she went over the cliff after 2016 didn’t work out.

[Oopsie Daisy]

19. Naturally.

[Emile]

96. +1

LOL

[betsuni]

94. Details. Why did she go over the cliff? Can't you tell us?

[diehardblue]

104. Bitter!!

[betsuni]

105. Yes.

[brooklynite]

113. "Bernie or Bust"

[Tetrachloride]

7. To everything turn tern torn

[dmr]

8. I learned years ago not to pay attention to anything she says.

It sounds like this is another one of those occasions.

[Sucha NastyWoman]

9. Nina who?

The name sounds vaguely famililiar but I have no idea why.

[Happy Hoosier]

15. Ya know.... The one Katie Porter endorsed...

TWICE.

[Oopsie Daisy]

21. Yes. That was a very revealing moment.

[Cha]

25. Exactly. What was she thinking.

[Jose Garcia]

26. 15% Katie sure knows hiw to pick 'em

[Mountainguy]

53. They can get together and talk about all the things they have in common

Like losing elections.

[betsuni]

55. RIGGED! CORRUPT! The Democratic Establishment is out to get them and will stop at nothing, etc.

They'll get really mad at all the imaginary enemies and have fun.

[Trueblue1968]

76. Nina the one i cant stand. She LIED about my lovely Hillary Clinton.

We should never say neeners name again. She also lied about pres biden.

[onecaliberal]

10. Who is that?

[Kaleva]

11. Is Nina Turner somebody we should know?

I have no idea who she is.

[NoRethugFriends]

14. yes you should know her

[Kaleva]

47. Why?

[NoRethugFriends]

48. look her up if you want to know.

. She's been a bad actor for a long time

[betsuni]

49. She's a public figure with media exposure, was on CNN a month ago supporting the uncommitted primary

vote, works hard fighting against Democrats with a burning white hot Cornel West-style grudge (both Sanders Institute Fellows but neither of them actually listen to Bernie Sanders, unfortunately, when says vote for Democrats). She's sure to run for office again and do as much damage to the Democratic Party as possible.

[Kaleva]

74. Then I won't vote for her if she runs in my state and district

[PatSeg]

20. It is just as well

There's something just not right about her. I mostly remember her being on cable TV years ago and literally yelling all the time. Then during the last presidential election, she clearly was working against Democrats. Somehow it felt like she was always trying to become a daily headline, primarily by being outrageous and even hateful.

Some people just are not cut out for politics.

[brooklynite]

70. At a minimum, you should know she's still a voting member of the DNC

[Kaleva]

73. Why should I know that?

Knowing who she is or not knowing who she is won't have any impact on my daily life or on how I vote this fall

[betsuni]

83. Ironic! Same nefarious all-powerful DNC Nina and those types claim somehow rig elections with money

and hypnotize voters because the liberal elite establishment are TERRIFIED of anything progressive and will stop at nothing to defeat them. Like, if you're a member of the establishment you think is out to get you, are you out to get yourself?

[NanaCat]

86. And? So?

When did that become a barometer for decency or morality or someone being worthy of support or an audience?

If Putin were a voting member of the DNC, I would neither give him an audience nor vote for him, because I don't support traitorous moles who burrow into a party to destroy it from within. I may not be a muckety muck on speed dial with 'important' insiders at the DNC (those telling me who'll win the NH primary, no less!), but I know how to support the party, rather than supporting a traitor to all it stands for.

It's called discernment and, oh yeah, integrity.

[betsuni]

88. Richly ironic she's promoted conspiracy theories the DNC rigs primaries while being a DNC member!

[arthritisR_US]

93. Nailed it! She should have grave yarded long ago

[betsuni]

97. She's a "progressive." Sanders Institute Fellow. Former Our Revolution president.

But why "progressive"?

[sheshe2]

117. Oh snap!

[calguy]

12. There's been a lot wrong with Nina Turner for a long time

[betsuni]

13. Poor Nina "[DNC] tried to seduce us with donuts and water" Turner.

Democrats torment her even in her dreams. There is no rest. "Hello somebody" indeed.

But I'm grateful for Turner's supporters accusing her opponent Shontel Brown's supporters of being TERRIFIED by Turner being a "strong progressive woman of color" when Brown IS a "strong progressive woman of color." Even here! HILARIOUS.

[sheshe2]

82. Here she is...campaigning.🤔

Brown, 46, is a county councilwoman and the first Black person and first woman to chair the influential Cuyahoga Democratic Party. Her campaign’s internal polling shows Brown has largely closed the 26-point support deficit between her and Turner in the last three months. She has the support of the political arm of the Congressional Black Caucus (CBC); Rep. Jim Clyburn, the third-ranking House Democrat who was instrumental in Biden’s successful South Carolina primary bid to win over Black voters; and, in an indicator that she is seen as the successor to Housing Secretary Marcia Fudge, the former CBC chair who represented this district from 2008 until earlier this year, Fudge’s own mother.

“I have no desire to join ‘The Squad.’ I truly believe the people here in the 11th Congressional District is the only squad I will be looking to serve,” Brown assured voters at a house party over the weekend.

Turner is known for a bold style that has at times put her at odds with members of her own party. After Sanders lost the Democratic presidential nominations in 2016 and 2020, she did little to turn out voters for Hillary Clinton or Biden. A July 2020 interview with the Atlantic has become fodder for her opponents and some voters cite it as a concern. In it, Turner likened voting for Biden over Trump as being asked to eat half a “bowl of shit … instead of the whole thing.”

“I’m running on a vision,” Turner told The 19th in an interview this week. “People should be more fixated on fixing the problems in this district, and this state in this nation, than on some colorful words that I used in the heat of a primary.”

https://19thnews.org/2021/07/nina-turner-shontel-brown-ohio-primary-race/

[betsuni]

84. "I'm running on a vision." The evidence is in, Democratic voters want legislation passed, not luxury populist visions.

What the job actually is, getting things done for constituents, not being beholden to national fundraising and PACs like the Justice Democrats.

Brown: "People are never like, 'Are you progressive, by the way, or are you a moderate?' It's 'Help me get my stuff, Shontel.'"

[sheshe2]

85. And...

I truly believe the people here in the 11th Congressional District is the only squad I will be looking to serve,”

Brava!

[betsuni]

89. Exactly. The job is working for constituents.

What Al Franken describes in his book "Giant of the Senate" as the "Hillary Model":

"Be a workhorse, not a showhorse. Go to all your hearings. Come early, stay late. Do your homework. Don't do national press. Be accessible to your state media and to your constituents."

Why Hillary was very good at her job, as are most Democrats. But idiots turned into her and all Democrats into cartoon caricature villains for some stupid reason.

[sheshe2]

90. "Be a workhorse, not a showhorse."

"Go to all your hearings. Come early, stay late. Do your homework. do national press. Be accessible to your state media and to your constituents."

Damn. I miss Al

Less than 48 hours after being sworn into office, Rep. Brown supported passage of the Bipartisan Infrastructure Law, bringing jobs to Northeast Ohio, improving public transportation, delivering clean water to families, and expanding access to high-speed internet.

-Brown supported passage of the Build Back Better Act, and has repeatedly called for its passage in the Senate, specifically noting the importance of an extension of the Child Tax Credit for families in her district

-Brown has introduced two new bills to improve access to school meals for students and enroll more veterans in preventative health programs through the VA

-Brown has cosponsored more than 50 bills, including legislation to protect Ohio workers against unfair trade practices, raise the minimum wage, give Medicare the ability to negotiate prescription drug prices, and strengthen and protect social security for generations to come

https://shontelbrown.com/accomplishments/

[betsuni]

92. Wow, impressive! Thank you, Shontel!

[Oopsie Daisy]

102. Who dresses her? Lord, she needs help. Is there such a thing as "Garanimals" for adults?

[sheshe2]

118. Apparently.😳😂

Great OP, Oopsie Daisy.

[Bev54]

16. As long as I have learned about this woman she has alway denigrated the democratic party

[JI7]

17. She works for Putin

[SoFlaBro]

58. Exactly +1 Rec. Has been doing so for YEARS.

[SocialDemocrat61]

22. She is part of the purity left

who hate democrats more than republicans. They are mainly driven by ego and just want to feel morally superior to everyone else.

[betsuni]

35. Saw her on a podcast, kept saying "I'm right. I'm right." Purity Left.

Only they are right and if you have a different strategy to reach the same goal it doesn't just make you wrong but immoral, the enemy, evil. Think the ACA with a public option would be the faster easier way to reach the goal of universal health care in the U.S.? Nope, that makes you evil. Medicare for All or nothing.

The People were supposed to rise up and do the revolution but Teh Democratic Establishment stopped it. Why they hate Democrats more than Republicans. Some kind of weird psychological thing.

[SocialDemocrat61]

36. I've always felt a lot of those people

not all, really don’t care about many of the policies they advocate. The goal is to blame someone else and feed their own egos.

[JustAnotherGen]

54. Next Level

If change happens - that ideology loses its' reason for being and . . . income stream.

[betsuni]

60. Income is important.

Last I heard Justice Democrats are just about bankrupt.

[Oopsie Daisy]

67. GOOD! I guess people are catching-on to their grift and con-game.

I can never trust that organization, nor any candidate that they like, support, or endorse. (I can't find the post... I thought I'd bookmarked it... but someone posted a screen capture or an actual link to a Justice Democrats tweet wherein they admitted/confessed that their goal is to destroy the Democratic party. When I saw that, I was livid.)

[JustAnotherGen]

71. I think they had something out

At one time about being 'Just Us' democrats. Except we have a huge tent - so that ideology can't apply to our party.

[lapucelle]

109. This one?

[Oopsie Daisy]

110. Yes! That's the one! They ADMIT their goal is to destroy the Democratic party!!

Were you the one who posted it originally?? Sorry I couldn't recall. It's a great find! I'm glad someone saved it.

[lapucelle]

112. I've posted it, but so have others.

They're lazy leeches. Their business modal is to use our party infrastructure to run their candidates in primaries and to collect their "salaries" from their unwitting donors.

From a 2017 interview with co-director Corbin Trent.

[Interviewer]: What is your relationship to the Democratic Party?

Corbin [Trent]: Myself, personally? I have no relationship whatsoever. The organization has very little. We intend to run within their structures, and in their primaries, and we’re thankful that they’ve set up an infrastructure that’s going to allow candidates to run in primaries. But we think that the party has — a long time ago — stopped representing the needs of the American people.

https://inthesetimes.com/article/brand-new-congress-progressives-republican-party-democrat

==========================

Ex-AOC Aide Cashes In On Anti-Filibuster Crusade
FILI-BUSTED!

Corbin Trent’s No Excuses PAC splashed out tens of thousands of dollars on his personal compensation, travel, and a political ally’s accounting firm—while neglecting its mission.

Corbin Trent, co-creator of powerhouse left-of-center outfits Justice Democrats and Brand New Congress, inaugurated the No Excuses PAC in early 2021—nine months after finishing a stint handling campaign communications for Ocasio-Cortez and Sen. Bernie Sanders (D-VT). From its inception, the new committee vowed to aerially bombard the pair of centrist senators who threatened to withhold their votes from the more ambitious elements of President Joe Biden’s agenda, and even recruit challengers.

snip---------------------------------

Federal Election Commission records show that, for a brief period—specifically, the span between January 27 and March 10, 2021—the PAC conformed to its mission: spending $14,831.88 on ads bashing Sinema on the Arizona airwaves. But the filings show that after that, the promised investments in public relations campaigns stopped.But its investments in Trent himself, who also formerly served as communications director to Ocasio-Cortez’s office, continued.

snip---------------------------------

The Daily Beast could discern little movement at the PAC in the past 16 months other than the flow of donor money into Trent’s pockets. The cash splashed on the anti-Sinema ads amount to a bare 9 percent of the $162,195.01 No Excuses has ladled out as of its most recent filings.

By contrast, the PAC has paid $113,763.91 to Trent, mostly in monthly or semi-monthly installments of $7,500 labeled “campaign management consulting” or “communications consulting.” And while the Sinema ads ended more than a year ago, the disbursements to Trent continued through the most recent filing period, which concluded in March.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/corbin-trent-former-aide-of-alexandria-ocasio-cortez-cashes-in-on-anti-filibuster-crusade

[Nixie]

115. It's such a shame that these Just Us actors think they

are owed a platform to abuse our party.

Such phony garbage they spew.

Thx for the dose of reality, lapucelle.

[betsuni]

59. Yes, clearly not about policies (no matter how much they insist) because it's always about attacking character

quite viciously and glorifying themselves as victims.

[brush]

23. What a strange video. When she started off with the anti-Dem rank...

with the Black man below her in the screen, almost as if she was nursing him at her breast, I didn't like the image before me.

Then he started talking, making strong points disputing her arguments, I wondered, and still am, what is this video trying to do? Who is the man talking? And is she putting this out as a way to work herself back into the good graces of Black Democrats by allowing herself to be openly disputed by a Black man?

Someone pls explain this to me.

[SocialDemocrat61]

24. The man is commenting on a video of her

He just inserted himself in to her video.

[brush]

27. Oh, they're not in the video together? It sure looks like it.

Nice techical work on the inserting. But why put himself in what looks like she's nursing him instead of side-by-side and on equal footing?

I'm thinking wouldn't he be leaving himself open for a suit by inserting himself into a video of hers...unless she approved it?

I wouldn't do that and set myself up to be sued.

She must've approved it, which brings me back to my point of her trying to work herself back into the good graces of Balck Democrats.

WTH is up?

[SocialDemocrat61]

29. It's actually something easy to do

It’s the same way people on zoom put fake backgrounds on their videos. And if it’s a video she posted publicly he’s free to comment on it. She didn’t have to approve it.

[brush]

33. I wouldn't put myself in such a position. There could be legal repercussions...

knowing how contentious she is.

[Oopsie Daisy]

34. Nina? Or the Twitter poster (@2RawTooReal)

[LiberalFighter]

31. She has a lot of hate.

[PlutosHeart]

32. I liked her years ago

but maybe I did not know better. All her Xitter posts are anti-Dem. I blocked her.

[FarPoint]

37. I sense she is just a selfish,

self centered lady who loves to hear herself and making waves of any form of opposition is her attention seeking style.

No true loyalty or focus.... I always turn away for this one.

[UpInArms]

39. Nina Turner always attacks the Democratic Party

That is her MO …

she wears me out

🫠

[haele]

41. Because she's an anti-status quo radical, which many mistakes for liberal.

She's a contrarian on steroids, a rebel looking for a cause.
Since Capital is in charge of Democracy, she's pushing that Pro-Democracy must be anti-Capitalist.
Politics is pure when everything is about an individual's personal position rather than what is going on in a wider world.

Turner has a reasonably legitimate position in politics as a opinionator/influencer; but unless she checks her ego and starts to operate in the real world, trying to be a governing politician will only end in tears and tantrums.

Haele

[OAITW r.2.0]

42. She's grifting older white "conservative", or as I like to think of them "conabled", white folks.

Willing to support a black young female who is willing to trash her race and destroy the only Party fighting for the bottom 90%.


BTW, I had to read the thread because your OP subject line could have been interpreted as a Pro-Nina post.

[msongs]

43. maybe she does it cuz it gets her plastered all over internet message boards nt

[Takket]

44. she's not a democrat so not surprised to see her ripping democrats

[edisdead]

45. This is a new thing to you?

Her Amy Goodman, Cornell West, .…

[Oopsie Daisy]

46. Amy Goodman appears to be a very popular *

* anti-Democrat pundit. I cringe when I see her videos, too.

[betsuni]

64. I can't watch, it's too distressing. It's not journalism, propaganda.

[Oopsie Daisy]

66. Yes, Goodman is definitely anti-Democratic party, and anti-Biden. So far out there *

* that she's jumped-over to the opposite end of the political horseshoe, and she's actually doing the work of the far-right, GOP, and Putin.

[LetMyPeopleVote]

50. I am so happy than Shontel defeated Nina in the primary

Link to tweet

[Oopsie Daisy]

72. And she lost by a rather large margin, too. Not even close, if I recall correctly.

[JohnSJ]

51. She has been unhinged for some time. Refusing to vote for Hillary in the

2016 general election, blaming Jews for her loss against Brown, and aligning with Cornell West on a new political party. She is bonkers.

[Oopsie Daisy]

61. Yes... "blaming the Jews" and hating on AIPAC seems to be a popular way of virtue-signaling among some.

Using that metric, she's at the top of the list (or bottom, depending).

[bottomofthehill]

56. Pretty simple, she sucks.

[B.See]

57. Just another of a number of malcontents who didn't get

the personal glory they wanted from the left, so they gain greater attention by being yet another sellout Tom putting a Black face (spelled it that way deliberately) on white supremacy.

Here's A NEWSFLASH from a Black man.

If you're supporting and vouching for a duplicitous, criminal mfkr whose mean-spirited, divisive, and malignant demogoguery has led to attacks upon minorities, diversity, inclusion, history, and even our YOUTH, as is now being perpetrated by the kind of vermin their fascist ideology EMBOLDENS...

... If you, as a Black man or any man for that matter, are okay with that kind of hateful, straight up Nazi SHIT, then (imo) you are ALREADY emasculated.

[maxrandb]

65. Who said what?

I would call her a "has-been", but she's really more of a "never-was".

[Nixie]

68. This is what makes Katie Porter's endorsement of Nina

a career killer. It still is unbelievable that someone with Katie's potential listens to this gaslighting and thinks it's a good idea to endorse.

It's all about the grifting screeds and not about real-world politics. It cost the younger generation the Supreme Court for years to come. How dumb was that.

[Oopsie Daisy]

69. Indeed! It's a heavy price to pay for indulging in the TOTAL FANTASY of a "revolution" that never arrived.

The political philosophy of "all or nothing" always ends up with nothing. It's odd how she seem genuinely quite proud of herself. Her professed and boastful "standing up for the common man" and accepting NO incremental progress only makes things worse for everyone. Strange how she believes that this is some sort of virtue. But, when it comes to folks like Turner, Sarandon, Stein and their defenders/supporters I have lot all patience and respect. They are saboteurs.

[betsuni]

95. Nothing rather than something is morally superior to them, exposing their bourgeois pseudo BS.

[Nixie]

114. Totally agree. These are not serious people. The

all-or-nothing grievances are as politically dumb as Trump's grievance messaging. Neither extreme is interested nor knowledgeable about how our government actually works. They are there for self-benefit reasons just like what's-his-face. Then they think they are owed serious consideration and respect by democrats or else.... no.

Katie Porter really demonstrated their hostile primary strategies, but it blew up in her face. Bye Katie.

[Oopsie Daisy]

116. Yes. Her political career is over. (Thankfully.) Sometimes the system works as it's supposed to.

[kentuck]

75. She was at one time connected to Bernie...

Otherwise, she would be ignored.

[Oopsie Daisy]

77. What would anyone see in her? Why would anyone want to be connected with or associated with her??

[betsuni]

99. Still is.

[doc03]

78. Who is Nina Turner and why should I give a ---- nt

[NanaCat]

79. As with all raging arseholes

The better question is what isn't wrong with her.

She's always been a daft twit.

[DFW]

80. Nina Turner is a classic case of "Tell me who your friends are and I'll tell you who you are."

If Katie Porter didn't know that before the California Senate primary, she certainly knows it now. I have no idea what Sanders thinks of her these days, but whatever it is, he is apparently wise enough to avoid the subject entirely.

[Oopsie Daisy]

81. That's an astute observation. She is definitely a drag on the campaigns (and reputations) of those who *

* think they can improve their fortunes by associating with her (or endorsing her, or accepting her endorsement.) She's just a hot-mess.

[NanaCat]

87. Spanish has a similar saying

'Dime con quién andas, y te diré quién eres.'

'Tell me who you walk with and I'll tell you who you are.'

The equivalent American idiom is usually, 'Lie down with dogs, get up with fleas.'

[DFW]

91. The Spanish "dicho" is closer equivalent

The dogs/fleas analogy in this case could imply that Porter and Sanders knew they would be waking up with fleas and did it anyway.

[betsuni]

98. Well, they should've known. It's obvious.

[DFW]

103. To you and me, it was obvious

If it had been obvious to everybody, Porter would never have run for Senate after endorsing Turner over Brown, and there would never have been a long Sanders for president campaign in 2016.

[betsuni]

106. Yes.

[samnsara]

108. shes still around???

[Indykatie]

111. Katie Porter Lost My Support When She Endorsed and Campaigned for Nina Turner

when Shontel Brown ran for re-election in 2022. I would never support anyone who aligns themselves with Nina Turner. Porter's reaction to her loss to Schiff is exactly what I would expect from her. I'm sure she was shocked that she did so poorly.