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shrike3

(5,370 posts)
Sun Mar 31, 2024, 04:01 PM Mar 2024

Things Tumbling in Israel

My apologies if this has already been posted.

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/things-tumbling-in-israel

Keep an eye on the events out of Israel. It seems possible they’re reaching some kind of turning point, though one hesitates to use that phrase about a country which has been in such an extended political paralysis for so long. The key to understand is that whatever crisis or shift may be in the works isn’t driven by the issues animating coverage in the U.S. To the extent it is tied to the Israel-Hamas war it is about the hostages and the widespread belief that the Netanyahu government isn’t that focused on striking a deal to get them home. Hovering around this is the fact that the government has at best tended to ignore and shun the hostages families. The communities along the border with Gaza tend to be made up of left-leaning Kibbutznik types. So they’re not Netanyahu’s people by any stretch of the imagination. That’s been a subtext to much that has happened over the last six months.

You also have the anti-judicial coup coalition which was holding massive weekly protests for almost a year before October 7th going back to the streets. All of that had stopped cold on October 7th. It’s been slowing reassembling since. But the protests this weekend are bigger than any since just before the massacres in southern Israel. They are now a coupled message for the government to resign and to bring the hostages home.

In the current government you basically have the Likud — the right-wing party of government, the parties of the ultra-orthodox and the parties of the settler crazies. Netanyahu will almost certainly lose the next election. And without a Netanyahu, these other parties are basically toast. Toast in the sense that they’re probably not going to see another government with this kind of radical dependence on them for a long time. So they need to get every dollar and every favor out of it they can right now, while the getting is good. So they will keep him in power as long as they can and basically cart out everything that isn’t nailed down. Meanwhile everyone else looks on and sees this is happening, during wartime, and basically all so the prime minister can stay out of jail, or at least squeeze out a few more months or a year in power. It’s a recipe for a highly combustible situation.

Again, no idea how this all plays out but Netanyahu has been juggling nine plates since the war started. Now he’s probably juggling 13. It can only go on so long.

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Things Tumbling in Israel (Original Post) shrike3 Mar 2024 OP
Maybe some good can come out of this.... Happy Hoosier Mar 2024 #1
I'm hoping, too. Could solve some problems -- maybe. shrike3 Mar 2024 #2
Betting they're in the same boat we are/were. Arthur_Frain Apr 2024 #11
That's what I'm afraid of, somebody worse over there. shrike3 Apr 2024 #12
I don't think Netanyahu is juggling shit. LuvLoogie Mar 2024 #3
He's in post surgery right now malaise Mar 2024 #4
Heh. So many metaphors. LuvLoogie Mar 2024 #9
Bibi With A Hernia? ArkansasDemocrat1 Apr 2024 #10
Unless the Government falls from the RIGHT, there won't be an election until October 2025... brooklynite Mar 2024 #5
Answers one of my questions. shrike3 Mar 2024 #6
Apparently, there is also something going on with drafting of Orthodox cos dem Mar 2024 #7
Bibi Trump HandmaidsTaleUntold Mar 2024 #8
 

shrike3

(5,370 posts)
2. I'm hoping, too. Could solve some problems -- maybe.
Sun Mar 31, 2024, 04:05 PM
Mar 2024

I don't know enough about Israeli politics, who his successor might be. I'd like to think they'd be better than Bibi.

Arthur_Frain

(2,280 posts)
11. Betting they're in the same boat we are/were.
Mon Apr 1, 2024, 06:23 PM
Apr 2024

Thought it couldn’t get worse than the shrub, then along comes the orange moron. I personally, don’t want to find out who they will find acceptable when tfg is gone.

Dollars to donuts says bibis successor isn’t any better. The people grasping for the reins of power are all crazy these days.

 

shrike3

(5,370 posts)
12. That's what I'm afraid of, somebody worse over there.
Mon Apr 1, 2024, 08:21 PM
Apr 2024

I don't know how we could do worse than Trump here, but life might surprise me.

LuvLoogie

(8,673 posts)
3. I don't think Netanyahu is juggling shit.
Sun Mar 31, 2024, 05:06 PM
Mar 2024

He's playing the same game he's always played, just accelerated. He'll be there a couple more years at least.

 

brooklynite

(96,882 posts)
5. Unless the Government falls from the RIGHT, there won't be an election until October 2025...
Sun Mar 31, 2024, 05:12 PM
Mar 2024

Likud and its allies still have a majority in the Knesset. If Netanyahu stepped down, his replacement would be someone worse.

cos dem

(942 posts)
7. Apparently, there is also something going on with drafting of Orthodox
Sun Mar 31, 2024, 05:18 PM
Mar 2024
https://www.vox.com/politics/24114496/benjamin-netanyahu-ultra-orthodox-conscription-coalition-gaza

It's supposedly coming to a head today. If this is not resolved, it seems that the right-wing coalition could in fact fall apart.
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