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Shakira graces the cover of Allure magazine and holds nothing back when asked about her thoughts on Barbie, the Greta Gerwig-directed blockbuster that topped the 2023 box office with $1.4 billion worldwide and earned eight Oscar nominations, including best picture.
The music icon said she somewhat agreed with her two sons who strongly disliked Barbie, suggesting that it was a piece of pop culture that robbed men of their possibility to be men.
My sons absolutely hated it, Shakira said. They felt that it was emasculating. And I agree, to a certain extent. Im raising two boys. I want em to feel powerful too [while] respecting women. I like pop culture when it attempts to empower women without robbing men of their possibility to be men, to also protect and provide. I believe in giving women all the tools and the trust that we can do it all without losing our essence, without losing our femininity.
I think that men have a purpose in society and women have another purpose as well, the singer added. We complement each other, and that complement should not be lost.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/shakiras-sons-hated-barbie-was-emasculating-says-rcna145891
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Sounds like Shakira did a shit job of raising her sons if their manhood is threatened by a movie about a doll.
It also sounds like Shakira is doubling down on gender roles, and that's just patriarchal bullshit.
Glad to say I was never a fan.
Aristus
(72,165 posts)So I guess I'm only one-quarter emasculated.
DFW
(60,169 posts)I fell asleep about halfway through, and before I could watch it again, the plane landed.
Initech
(108,728 posts)I watched it and highly enjoyed it. It was funny when it needed to be funny and serious when it needed to be serious.
hlthe2b
(113,916 posts)At what point will they become the modern equivalent of "incels"? (and will she care?)
WhiskeyGrinder
(26,940 posts)Jose Garcia
(3,502 posts)nilram
(3,549 posts)Lunabell
(7,309 posts)Her opinions are worthless, in my opinion. Another successful woman who puts herself behind her man instead of walking side by side.
LiberalFighter
(53,544 posts)If they feel that way about the movie.
JenniferJuniper
(4,571 posts)unblock
(56,193 posts)I mean I really find it a bizarre reaction. I love strong, confident women. "Emasculated" is close to the opposite of my reaction to that.
How insecure in yourself do you need to be to feel threatened in your manhood by women making decisions, having a career, making money, and you know, being an actual person.
Never mind feeling threatened by a fiction movie about a doll....
tanyev
(49,265 posts)FrankBooth
(1,851 posts)She's uh, not that smart.
tinrobot
(12,060 posts)Nearly every man in that movie fit the stereotype of a "Ken" who was vain, had zero self awareness, and did nothing but watch sports and play video games.
Well, except for Alan, who was made into a joke for being less macho and somewhat self-aware.
Perhaps Shalkira's kids are more like Alan - kind and self-aware rather than self-centered and patriarchal.
maxsolomon
(38,694 posts)The Kens, who only lived to be the Barbies' boyfriends, try to take over Barbieland and establish a Patriarchy. In the end, the Barbies triumph and keep Barbieland as it was: a Matriarchy. Not exactly a vision of radical equality, but it was kind of quickly dispensed with to get to the "Kenough" scene and the maudlin Rhea Perlman message scene.
All of the "man-bashing" was pretty funny, though. There was a Stephen Malkmus joke for all the Gen X Indie Rockers. LIke 1/1,000 viewers were going to get that one.
sarisataka
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dawg
(10,777 posts)What a shame.
Mad_Machine76
(24,952 posts)Very disappointed in her.
LeftInTX
(34,248 posts)The statement was party of a long interview she gave for a beauty magazine.
Goodheart
(5,760 posts)ThreeNoSeep
(305 posts)I enjoyed it, but it was not that great, and haven't felt a need to see it again. Emasculating? meh.
AllaN01Bear
(29,468 posts)nolabear
(43,850 posts)Taken literally its castration but they mean damaging to their masculine image or sense of self. But seriously, I cant think of an equal term for us women. Maybe because we dont have that fantasy of it being so important, or maybe because its a little like the fish complaining about the water.
AllaN01Bear
(29,468 posts)OneGrassRoot
(23,953 posts)Oopsie Daisy
(6,670 posts)* I guess there's a reason why I've never heard of her.
Igel
(37,530 posts)Some can, some can't.
Bettie
(19,684 posts)and I have three of them, two in their twenties and one who is 15.
LeftInTX
(34,248 posts)Bettie
(19,684 posts)To be fair, my boys weren't sports kids.....they were theater and band kids from the very beginning.
LeftInTX
(34,248 posts)Bettie
(19,684 posts)and Legos.
And a lot of pretending to be dogs, cats, or horses....that was an odd phase.
LeftInTX
(34,248 posts)Michael Jackson, How it's Made, Airplane, spaghetti westerns. They would not have wanted to see a Barbie movie.
TBH, they didn't watch much TV, but they would have killed me if I took them to see Barbie.
Bettie
(19,684 posts)just the "girly" aspect of it.
Mine just loved movies, any kind, just like me.
I had a teacher in a media class in college described herself as a "narrative junkie" and it fits me and my three boys quite well...if there's a story to be heard or told, we're there!
We all write, my oldest runs D&D games, we watch TV and movies....we're "story people".
msongs
(73,736 posts)SouthernDem4ever
(6,619 posts)Traildogbob
(13,016 posts)Very observant. Men live booty shanking and grinding while feeling not adequate for a women that does it so well, for lots of cash.
Not condemning, she is talented and can sing while running non stop. But she loves the control of the men she performs to.
Bettie
(19,684 posts)so....
SouthernDem4ever
(6,619 posts)Bettie
(19,684 posts)OAITW r.2.0
(32,116 posts)ProfessorGAC
(76,676 posts)How could they be emasculated when they're not old enough to be "masculated" yet?
She sounds like a kook using words & concepts she doesn't really understand.
WhiteTara
(31,260 posts)Titty babies,
elias7
(4,229 posts)I think blaming Shakira for doing a shit job raising her sons is quite a strong opinion about someone you dont know. She says she wants her boys to feel powerful while respecting women. Nothing wrong with that. It is a movie about a doll, but as you know, it is of course more than that, so I feel youre being a bit condescending and patriarchal in your attitudes. And dont tell me that youre a women and cant be patriarchal, lest someone accuse you of doubling down on gender roles.
niyad
(132,321 posts)these days", yes? If not, please do enlighten us about how white males are suffering. Are their reproductive rights being taken away? Are they unable to receive all the proper health care they need? Are they at high risk for rape? Is there talk about repealing their right to vote? Are they being threatened with being murdered for committing adultery? Are they being told by their churches to submit to authority? Are they being paid less than others for the same work? Are they doing double/triple duty as wage earners, child caregivers, and housekeepers? Are they in the minority in lead and speaking roles in movies and tekevision? Are they in the extreme minority as ceo's and senior management? Are they in the minority in law enforcement?
Please, do enlighten us.
Botany
(77,304 posts)It was made for girls. End of story.
Silent3
(15,909 posts)It shouldn't bother males of any age, at least if they're smart enough to know the movie is deliberately playing on stereotypes to make a point. Some boys might need a little parental guidance to better understand what's going, of course.
mzmolly
(52,792 posts)for thoughtful dialog with her sons.
LizBeth
(11,222 posts)thru out history. They are not innate, or part of our DNA make up. Totally manifest by our (societies) whim. Men are capable of being a nurturer, women are able to be competitive. No one is the protector. That is a cape given to men when the majority of time they do not protective in life but get to wear the badge none the less. Statistically if a woman is being harassed in public it is another woman that interferes and not a man. The men tend to stand around and watch because of bro code. So that is silliness stating men are protectors. As far as the providers, most homes has two working adults both bring in income.
Now the whole emasculation thing has not made sense to me since I was literally a child. I heard often enough be sure not to emasculate a man. And normally that is with words. In what world is masculinity defined as strength but to weak and vulnerable by a mere word from a woman. Totally becomes unmanned. That makes absolutely no sense. Or that he is not allowed the illusion of leader, protect and provider even when facts do not hold that up. And that is a desirable interpretation of being emasculate? Yet I hear men almost boost about a womans ability to be emasculated. That is just embarrassing to me.
LeftInTX
(34,248 posts)About seven months later, Shakira and Cardi B are recording a music video together where they play the daughters of Artemis hunting down centaurscentaurs with six-packs, she specifieson a planet where women rule. The two artists have just wrapped the shoot for Puntería x Cardi B, the first song on the album. It was filmed here in Miami. She mentions that hottie, erm, actor Lucien Laviscount flew in from Paris to play the centaur she conquers. The centaurs, they're in ecstasy, she says, obviously very pleased with how the production went. Because on this planet, the men are happy to be dominated by women.
Shakira hails from an entirely different planet. She was born to a Lebanese father and a native Colombian mother and raised in a country where beauty pageants are a big deal. My idol was Wonder Woman. I think I was drawn to her because she had black hair like mine, but also because she was a symbol of empowerment and strength in a decade where women were not playing the most important roles. I remember my mom stopped working at some point. She stopped wearing miniskirts, and the length of her skirts got longer because my dad said so.
https://www.allure.com/story/shakira-cover
Beauty magazines pad articles with fluff....
Heck, Allure said Shakira was from a "different planet"..LOL
I think people are reading too much into this....
Her boys hated the Barbie movie. They are 11 and 9. Sorry, but when my boys were that age, they would have killed me if I took them to a Barbie movie.
Here is the newest video that Shakira and Cardi B are promoting
DiverDave
(5,245 posts)Makes them feel less of a man, I suspect it wasn't the content.
It was a MOVIE, fiction.
I gotta ask my guys if a movie, about a child's toy made them feel that way.
I'm gonna say, with 100% certainty, that they will no. And why would I ask such a dumb question.
True Dough
(26,647 posts)all I can think is: Pay your damn taxes!!!
LuvLoogie
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machoneman
(4,128 posts)Good Gawd, does anyone care what she thinks? Anyone?
All Mixed Up
(597 posts)hamsterjill
(17,570 posts)It is a movie. It is for entertainment. You watch it and you move on.
If two young boys are being raised in a home where seeing one movie makes them feel emasculated, I would wonder why.
RockRaven
(19,340 posts)of her children, which is as cowardly as it is stupid.
niyad
(132,321 posts)LuvLoogie
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LeftInTX
(34,248 posts)I don't think she even lives in the US.
GoneOffShore
(18,020 posts)She's a bit of a tax cheat - https://www.cbsnews.com/news/shakira-reaches-deal-spanish-prosecutors-tax-fraud-trial-avoid-risk-prison/
Iggo
(49,924 posts)tavernier
(14,443 posts)accepting the role of Ken. He is the hottest ticket in Hollywood since costarring in THAT movie. ❤️