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Hmm...Truth Social AND Tesla? (Original Post) momta Apr 2 OP
At least Tesla has the potential to provide a serviceable product. Tommy Carcetti Apr 2 #1
A large part of Tesla's woes right now have to do with the cyber truck. Arthur_Frain Apr 2 #2
It's not just the Cybertruck, sales are slowing for all of their models tinrobot Apr 2 #5
I've seen a couple of Cybertrucks on the road. Initech Apr 2 #7
Kind of crazy FHRRK Apr 2 #14
I compare it to Quanto Magnus Apr 2 #16
Yours were probably nicer, unless you did all your drawing with a ruler William Seger Apr 2 #21
This was my first impression. Arthur_Frain Apr 2 #32
If you think they're ugly now, wait until you see them in a year or two William Seger Apr 2 #19
It's so ugly, that if it fell into a sinkhole, you could pump ugly for a week! Wonder Why Apr 2 #23
I had planned to buy a Tesla for my next car, but I've changed my mind. Musk is way too erratic to trust. Martin68 Apr 2 #10
Thankfully there's plenty of alternatives now! Initech Apr 2 #17
The other driver in Tesla's downfall paleotn Apr 2 #20
Battery replacement mockmonkey Apr 2 #29
Is "truth social" just another pump and dump operation? brush Apr 2 #30
I think that's what it was always set up to be. Arthur_Frain Apr 2 #33
Added RussBLib Apr 2 #3
Shackle 'em together and let 'em both sink into oblivion Blue Owl Apr 2 #4
Recd kicked to AKwannabe Apr 2 #6
Tesla sales are slumping (down 8.5 percent?) and the piggy bank to shore up twitler is shrinking. usonian Apr 2 #8
They are both super geniuses IronLionZion Apr 2 #9
They are both clearly sociopathic. Martin68 Apr 2 #11
Musk would do well to be working on the next generation of batteries Warpy Apr 2 #12
There are already safer batteries being made. tinrobot Apr 2 #22
Just yesterday I heard someone else tell me they'd never buy a Tesla because of the muskrat kimbutgar Apr 2 #13
NASDAQ:DJT is up about 5% today as I type this. nt Gore1FL Apr 2 #15
My guess: Someone is or someones are trying to buoy it up. KPN Apr 2 #25
Welp. It looks like we don't have to wait for the election to see how people think about the Trump-MAGA brand. Baitball Blogger Apr 2 #18
It's all about money Renew Deal Apr 2 #24
DJT is up nearly 7% from yesterday. RandySF Apr 2 #26
Tesla's sales are slumping because China EV makers are cutting prices. lapfog_1 Apr 2 #27
Tesla is the Beta Max of VCRs lapfog_1 Apr 2 #28
The trucks will end up in Batman movies rickford66 Apr 2 #31
And thousands of other stocks. former9thward Apr 2 #34
Both companies suck Joinfortmill Apr 2 #35

Tommy Carcetti

(43,219 posts)
1. At least Tesla has the potential to provide a serviceable product.
Tue Apr 2, 2024, 10:30 AM
Apr 2

Which is sadly undermined by the fact that a douche canoe bought the company out and tied its legacy to his own.

Truth Social, on the other hand, is just Good Value Twitter with only one single prominent poster.

Arthur_Frain

(1,864 posts)
2. A large part of Tesla's woes right now have to do with the cyber truck.
Tue Apr 2, 2024, 10:50 AM
Apr 2

You can only spin so much in this world where everyone has a camera in their pocket. That launch will go down as one of the shittiest in history, and the final product is just a raging dumpster fire.

I haven’t seen one video of a happy cyber truck buyer.

Pretty sure the truth social thing is designed to do this, it’s just a money laundering machine for Saudi and Russian interests, they’ll prop it up long enough to ensure tfg is thoroughly owned should the unimaginable actually happen.

tinrobot

(10,926 posts)
5. It's not just the Cybertruck, sales are slowing for all of their models
Tue Apr 2, 2024, 11:09 AM
Apr 2

One big reason those sales have slowed is because of Elon's reputation:

Would-be Tesla buyers snub company as Musk's reputation dips

https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/would-be-tesla-buyers-snub-company-musks-reputation-dips-2024-04-01/

Add in that Tesla is opening it's Supercharger network to all vehicles and there's not many reasons left to buy a Tesla over the competition.

When normal looking EV trucks from Ford, GM, or Rivian can also charge anywhere, why buy a Cybertruck?

Initech

(100,108 posts)
7. I've seen a couple of Cybertrucks on the road.
Tue Apr 2, 2024, 11:52 AM
Apr 2

Without a doubt, one of the stupidest looking cars I've ever seen.

FHRRK

(512 posts)
14. Kind of crazy
Tue Apr 2, 2024, 12:25 PM
Apr 2

They don’t look bad ass so it isn’t like you are going to pull over some of the Dodge Ram crowd.

It just gives off a strange vibe. All I look for is spots on the steel when I see one.

Some guy in my neighborhood runs his pool cleaning business out of one, no signage/decals to promote his business, just strange to sink that kind of money into a truck and not use it to advertise your business.

Martin68

(22,913 posts)
10. I had planned to buy a Tesla for my next car, but I've changed my mind. Musk is way too erratic to trust.
Tue Apr 2, 2024, 12:04 PM
Apr 2

Initech

(100,108 posts)
17. Thankfully there's plenty of alternatives now!
Tue Apr 2, 2024, 12:37 PM
Apr 2

Honda, Cadillac, Chevrolet, Kia, Hyundai, Subaru, Toyota, Volvo, just to name a few! I'm personally looking at the Hyundai Ioniq for my next car, but I'll probably go with the Accord Hybrid.

paleotn

(17,989 posts)
20. The other driver in Tesla's downfall
Tue Apr 2, 2024, 12:58 PM
Apr 2

The big guys with their uber deep pockets are fully in the EV marketplace

mockmonkey

(2,834 posts)
29. Battery replacement
Tue Apr 2, 2024, 01:36 PM
Apr 2

Hyundai Ioniq. If you should happen to run over some large road debris and damage the battery/shield a new battery is alleged to be $60,000 (Canadian dollars) to replace it. Insurance writes it off. Other brands also have really high replacement costs.


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brush

(53,925 posts)
30. Is "truth social" just another pump and dump operation?
Tue Apr 2, 2024, 01:40 PM
Apr 2

Some made quick and dirty profit on the first offering?

Arthur_Frain

(1,864 posts)
33. I think that's what it was always set up to be.
Tue Apr 2, 2024, 02:44 PM
Apr 2

Like the student loans were basically legalized usury, we are now watching real time money laundering here in late stage capitalism.

usonian

(9,916 posts)
8. Tesla sales are slumping (down 8.5 percent?) and the piggy bank to shore up twitler is shrinking.
Tue Apr 2, 2024, 11:54 AM
Apr 2

General decline in electrics (novelty effect is down, people seem to prefer hybrids).
Quality issues (or the lack thereof) are coming to the forefront. Expect more as the cars age.

and yes, bonehead management.
Alienate (vilify) half the available market when trying to create an "everything app" like WeChat with access to your money accounts.

fElon would like to make us all batteries, as in The Matrix, but perhaps that's how his cars will end up.
Batteries for solar systems when the cars just fall apart.
more

Warpy

(111,383 posts)
12. Musk would do well to be working on the next generation of batteries
Tue Apr 2, 2024, 12:18 PM
Apr 2

because the lithium ion batteries are too subject to damage and catch on fire when they get damaged. Since Teslas don't have battery ejection features, the whole car gets toasted when one battery fails.

The stock has consistently outperformed predicions, so this might be some long delayed profit taking. Investors are a thick skinned lot, so I don't think this is a vote of no confidence in Musk.

It might be a combination of these two things. I know Tesla owners love their cars when they're not on fire, so that's not the problem.

tinrobot

(10,926 posts)
22. There are already safer batteries being made.
Tue Apr 2, 2024, 01:05 PM
Apr 2

Tesla and few manufacturers are switching cars over to LFP batteries. That's lithium with cheap iron rather than pricier metals like manganese and cobalt.

They're cheaper to make and a little bit heavier, but a LOT safer. Very little fire risk. Plus they're so robust they'll outlast the car.

kimbutgar

(21,224 posts)
13. Just yesterday I heard someone else tell me they'd never buy a Tesla because of the muskrat
Tue Apr 2, 2024, 12:24 PM
Apr 2

I brought a hybrid last November and a friend asked me why I didn’t get a Tesla? I told her about muskrat and how my neighbors electric bill after buying one went from $150 a month to $700. The infrastructure is just not completely in place yet to sustain electric vehicles.

Baitball Blogger

(46,769 posts)
18. Welp. It looks like we don't have to wait for the election to see how people think about the Trump-MAGA brand.
Tue Apr 2, 2024, 12:51 PM
Apr 2

lapfog_1

(29,228 posts)
27. Tesla's sales are slumping because China EV makers are cutting prices.
Tue Apr 2, 2024, 01:33 PM
Apr 2

In a classic repeat of Beta Max v. VHS.

VHS won. Beta was better but more expensive.

Plus the early adopters of EV already HAVE EVs. The rest of us can't afford then at Tesla prices. So we wait on getting a cheaper alternative and a build out of the needed infrastructure to support them. Plus there are too many stories of the damn things catching fire.

lapfog_1

(29,228 posts)
28. Tesla is the Beta Max of VCRs
Tue Apr 2, 2024, 01:34 PM
Apr 2

In a classic repeat of Beta Max v. VHS.

VHS won. Beta was better but more expensive.

Plus the early adopters of EV already HAVE EVs. The rest of us can't afford them at Tesla prices. So we wait on getting a cheaper alternative and a build out of the needed infrastructure to support them. Plus there are too many stories of the damn things catching fire.

former9thward

(32,097 posts)
34. And thousands of other stocks.
Tue Apr 2, 2024, 03:21 PM
Apr 2

Did you notice the market has lost nearly 1000 points in the last two days?

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