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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsIf Dump suddenly dropped dead, who would the repug's presidential candidate be?
And how would they go about picking someone?
OnDoutside
(20,868 posts)Talitha
(7,988 posts)brooklynite
(96,882 posts)...when campaigns end, they're actually "suspended" so fundraising can continue.
Add to which, Haley, DeSantis and Ramaswany have delegates from the early contests.
Talitha
(7,988 posts)getagrip_already
(17,802 posts)So none of the other candidates could win the nomination outright.
The rnc would have to vote to release the delegates, and then hold a series of nominations and votes to pick a candidate.
How they do that is up to their rules and bylaws. It could be smoke filled back rooms with plenty of Rudy farts or it could be open and transparent.
Hmm, I wonder which route they would go. Lara?
DemocraticPatriot
(5,410 posts)without any 'vote' being necessary. Otherwise you have the ridiculous situation of candidates being pledged to a dead man... and you have to be living to be nominated for president...
WarGamer
(18,613 posts)Probably DeSantis.
BlueKota
(5,345 posts)brooklynite
(96,882 posts)underpants
(196,495 posts)Talitha
(7,988 posts)hlthe2b
(113,971 posts)On second thought, nah... those who would be in "contention" are too cowardly to physically fight for it--unless it is decided by a "Proud Boys" v "3-percenter" fight.
honest.abe
(9,238 posts)Depends on who is the who.
Deuxcents
(26,915 posts)All Mixed Up
(597 posts)Talitha
(7,988 posts)I've never watched a convention and have no idea what they do except scream and holler.
All Mixed Up
(597 posts)I think the last truly contested convention was the 1976 Republican one but even that was still likely to go to Ford (and it did, tho Reagan put up a fight).
But it was a contested convention.
Every convention since, the nominee has been known at the start and there's not much actual debate as it's all a formality.
In the olden days, back before primaries, you know, when the convention delegates actually picked the nominee, you'd have contested conventions.
Take the 1952 Democratic Convention:
There were multiple ballots before Stevenson finally won enough delegates to be nominated.
On the 1st ballot, he actually lost to Richard Russell and Carey Kefauver. Russell was an segregationist. But because no one had a majority, it went to additional ballots before Stevenson won.
Talitha
(7,988 posts)Thanks for the info, I'm learning a LOT today!
All Mixed Up
(597 posts)It wasn't that long ago, tho, that vice presidents were chosen at the convention, which at least gave it some purpose. I think 1980's Republican Convention was the last time a VP was selected at the convention. There, Reagan announced to the floor he was picking Bush.
After that, the VP has mostly been selected in the weeks leading up to the convention.
ProfessorGAC
(76,704 posts)Just tell the cult that liberals hate turnips. They'd vote for it.
dawg
(10,777 posts)So it might actually be true.
ProfessorGAC
(76,704 posts)So, we just won't tell anybody that you don't like them.
I make a killer turnip puree. I've used rutabaga & parsnips too!. The trick is cinnamon & nutmeg!
Wonder Why
(7,026 posts)Last edited Thu Apr 4, 2024, 09:59 PM - Edit history (1)
And, if I remember right, (it might have been tomatoes or cockroaches), only the overnight development of the negative nuclear atom destroyer by the hero could stop them.
Your puree was tried and it only made the turnips angrier.
ProfessorGAC
(76,704 posts)It is a top secret recipe. I keep it in the safe with the plutonium!
Gore1FL
(22,951 posts)Fla Dem
(27,633 posts)Add how many delegates they each win going forward to the number they won before they dropped out. If neither gets the required # decide who wins at Republican Convention in July.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-primary-elections/calendar
Talitha
(7,988 posts)Xavier Breath
(6,640 posts)Hell, Junior or Ivanka might even jump in as a tribute to dear old Dad. The old guard, whatever's left of it, would see an opening and try to push someone more conventional, like Haley or maybe Little Marco. It would be a huge dogpile of shit people, and the backstage shenanigans would be worthy of a Game of Thrones series. Sadly the entire circus would get monster tv ratings. At that point I'd be hoping for some Heaven's Gate-like ending.
ShazzieB
(22,590 posts)Just wondering...this is all new to me.
Xavier Breath
(6,640 posts)they'd be in a make-it-up-as-you-go kind of situation, convention bylaws be damned. It would be a race to the bottom for all involved, that's for sure.
Lochloosa
(16,735 posts)rubbersole
(11,223 posts)...doing what they've been doing. Running the show. They'd pick Brian Kemp, governor of Georgia. I fully expect that to happen even if slobby is still kicking. Repubs have to do something or they will lose everywhere up and down the ballot. Bummer.
DemocraticPatriot
(5,410 posts)Anybody could decide to run at the last minute-- but that doesn't mean they'd get much support.
Vice President Humphrey was nominated in 1968 without having really campaigned in any primaries... but in those days, most of the delegates were chosen in caucuses or other state party means, and he arrived at the convention with a majority of those non-primary delegates supporting him.
ShazzieB
(22,590 posts)I wasn't fully engaged politically back then, so I didn't follow the primaries closely. (I wasn't old enough to vote in 1968, anyway - I turned 18 that year, but voting age was still 21.) Most of what I remember about that convention is the protests and the police brutality. (Ugh.)
Thanks for jogging my memory about 1968.
Bev54
(13,431 posts)Talitha
(7,988 posts)Bev54
(13,431 posts)doc03
(39,086 posts)Talitha
(7,988 posts)Irish_Dem
(81,266 posts)ShazzieB
(22,590 posts)Kind of like the one in mythology, except that one had 9 heads!
Irish_Dem
(81,266 posts)His role is to guard the gates of Hades and allow dead people in but no one out.
Sounds about right.
ShazzieB
(22,590 posts)The hydra was a slithery 9-headed sea creature. Pretty creepy, but way too many heads!
Irish_Dem
(81,266 posts)So we have that monster covered too.
Irish_Dem
(81,266 posts)Real life evil turned into legend.
Omnipresent
(7,450 posts)Talitha
(7,988 posts)sheshe2
(97,627 posts)[Verse 1]
Don't ever laugh as a hearse goes by
For you may be the next to die
They wrap you up in a big white sheet
From your head down to your feet
[Verse 2]
They put youThe Worms Crawl Inin a big black box
And cover you up with dirt and rocks
And all goes well for about a week
And then your coffin begins to leak
[Chorus]
And the worms crawl in, the worms crawl out
The worms play pinochle on your snout
They eat your eyes, they eat your nose
They eat the jelly between your toes
[Verse 3]
A big green worm with rolling eyes
Crawls in your stomach and out your eyes
Your stomach turns a slimy green
And pus pours out like whipping cream
You spread it on a slice of bread
And that's what you eat when you're dead
[Verse 4]
And the worms crawl out, the worms crawl in
The worms that crawl in are lean and thin
The ones that crawl out are fat and stout
Your eyes fall in and your hair falls out
Your brain comes tumbling down your snout
[Chorus]
The worms crawl in, the worms crawl out
They crawl all over your dirty snout
Your chest caves in and your eyes pop out
And your brain turns to sauerkraut
[Verse 5]
They invite their friends, and their friends too
They all come down to chew on you
And this is what it is to die
Hope you had a nice goodbye
[Verse 6]
Did you ever think as a hearse goes by
That you may be the next to die?
And your eyes fall out and your teeth decay
And that is the end of a perfect day
[Chorus]
The worms crawl in, the worms crawl out
The worms play pinochle on your snout
They eat your eyes, they eat your nose
They eat the jelly between your toes
https://genius.com/Harley-poe-the-worms-crawl-in-lyrics
Upthevibe
(10,180 posts)I have wondered about this myself.
IMHO, they don't have a deep bench at all! I mean there's practically a civil war in the party. I don't know who they all would/could get behind...
I didn't want to look at other responses before I posted so I'll check it out now....
BTW.... Great post
Talitha
(7,988 posts)agingdem
(8,849 posts)Irish_Dem
(81,266 posts)Fascist go for family dynasties.
lees1975
(7,046 posts)We are too far along in the Primary season for a single candidate to come out with enough votes to win it via the primaries. They'd have to open up nominations at the convention and hold ballots and runoffs until they had a nominee. I can see some manipulative sneak like Charlie Kirk, or one of Trump's sons getting the nomination because MAGA cultists aren't going to support a mainstream Republican like Haley or a wannabe like Desantis.
I think if that happened it would fracture the party, split MAGA off from the mainstream Republicans and give Biden 538 electoral votes. The MAGA choice would be someone more insane and demented and evil than Trump, and the mainstream Republican who survived the fight wouldn't get enough votes to carry one state.
Talitha
(7,988 posts)Dang, I like the sound of that!
Thanks for the info regarding convention rules, I'm learning a lot in this discussion!
lees1975
(7,046 posts)The MAGAs won't be interested in a mainstream Republican, even an extreme one, and without Trump, there'd be a lot of relief among the regular side of the party. I believe it would fracture.
Think. Again.
(22,456 posts)getagrip_already
(17,802 posts)SWBTATTReg
(26,257 posts)are bloodshot, his teeth are clacking together, and he can barely get his words out. He's a junkie on something, I don't what (and don't care), but to pay any attention to this moron, is a big mistake for anybody. Must have picked up the habit from his daddy (snorting through the nose, etc.). Someone had told me what drug does the clacking together of the teeth, etc., but I can't recall what it is. Maybe (just a wild guess) Ecstasy? Or better, coke.
Another big loser (don jr). I'm surprised he hasn't had a heart attack yet.
Talitha
(7,988 posts)But I've seen his 'coke grimace'... that's what my son calls it. He said wrestler Randy Savage did all the time - I thought it was just the way the guy talked.
SWBTATTReg
(26,257 posts)since I read lips for most of my hearing, I observed his teeth clacking, and it drove me nuts. Hard to read lips this way.
Your son is smart, and I'll use that term, coke grimace. It suits these cokeheads.
Chainfire
(17,757 posts)WestMichRad
(3,254 posts)Just theorizing that they would try to cover up his death. AI could possibly generate a passable word salad maker to stand in for TSF.
(?)
keithbvadu2
(40,915 posts)TwilightZone
(28,836 posts)Or they could just prop him up like Weekend at Bernie's or Strom Thurmond.
MorbidButterflyTat
(4,512 posts)Celerity
(54,407 posts)brooklynite
(96,882 posts)https://prod-static.gop.com/media/Rules_Of_The_Republican_Party.pdf
Talitha
(7,988 posts)onecaliberal
(36,594 posts)MorbidButterflyTat
(4,512 posts)moldy corpse.
Edit: This thread is fun
rurallib
(64,688 posts)jmowreader
(53,194 posts)But since he has a non-waiverable disqualification they can't.
Thunderbeast
(3,819 posts)It was learned that the nominated VP candidate had suffered from depression in prior years, and been treated with electro-shock therapy. He stepped down from the ticket and the party replaced him with Sargent Schriver (a Kennedy cousin).
Deuxcents
(26,915 posts)MontanaMama
(24,722 posts)Theyre a hot mess. They cant find their collective ass with both hands. And yet, the media would say the Dems are In disarray.
jmowreader
(53,194 posts)My calculus: The only possible route they have to win the 2024 election is to have Donald Trump on the ballot. So...if Trump croaks, they have a golden opportunity to get rid of Trump's anti-everything fan base and go back to being the party that only likes to cut taxes and reduce the size of government. And to do that, they need a candidate who's going to get absolutely stomped in November.
Hence, the proper way forward is to find the most repugnant asshole on the face of the planet who's eligible to run for president and have him be the candidate. I thought about Enrique Tarrio (president of Proud Boys) or Stewart Rhodes (founder of Oath Keepers) but they're both in federal prison so...that probably won't work.
The alternative is Ted Nugent, but running him for president makes this scheme WAY too obvious.
Talitha
(7,988 posts)jmowreader
(53,194 posts)On one hand, he is pretty tempting as a vote-discourager.
On the other, organic ketchup for him to throw against the wall isn't cheap.
MorbidButterflyTat
(4,512 posts)Emile
(42,289 posts)Just be another fascist loser.
The Wizard
(13,735 posts)Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(135,713 posts)She's one of the most vocal these days.
obamanut2012
(29,369 posts)Mike Nelson
(10,943 posts)... it WON'T be. First of all, the Trump delegates would never vote for Nikki Haley. They are not rational. It won't be her. Second, it won't be Trump... why do I say it won't be him, after he dies? Because there will be people expecting a resurrection. They will be disappointed. He will not push the casket open on the following Sunday and resume his campaign.
Blue Owl
(59,104 posts)Dump being whisked away to hell by the specter of death makes me feel all warm and fuzzy

MorbidButterflyTat
(4,512 posts)That's creepy!
Groundhawg
(1,218 posts)OAITW r.2.0
(32,133 posts)and goes to war with each other. A new "Conservative" Replacement Party doesn't recover until the 2032.
dsc
(53,397 posts)before the convention, they would have an open convention with Haley having the most committed delegates. Post convention, I have no idea. My guess is the party would pick the replacement similar to what happened when Wellstone was killed while campaigning for the US Senate.