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If Dump suddenly dropped dead, who would the repug's presidential candidate be? (Original Post) Talitha Apr 2024 OP
It'd probably go to the repug convention ? OnDoutside Apr 2024 #1
That's what I figured, but with no one else running, I wonder what the rules would be. Talitha Apr 2024 #3
Actually, all the candidates are still running... brooklynite Apr 2024 #12
Thanks, I had no idea! So I guess the convention would settle it. Thanks again! Talitha Apr 2024 #15
Thats true, but tsf still has enough committed felegates to be the nominee getagrip_already Apr 2024 #27
If Trump were dead, I would think his delegates would be automatically released, DemocraticPatriot Apr 2024 #82
Whoever Trump or Jr anointed. WarGamer Apr 2024 #2
Wouldn't surprise me if it were Jr or Jordan BlueKota Apr 2024 #5
Don Jr has nothing approaching support by Party leadership. brooklynite Apr 2024 #14
Maybe not party leadership but I've seen polls that he's very popular with their people underpants Apr 2024 #33
I don't watch the conventions - can someone just 'choose' someone to run? Talitha Apr 2024 #6
Cage Match... hlthe2b Apr 2024 #4
It would be interesting who they would choose. honest.abe Apr 2024 #7
Who Made Who?! Deuxcents Apr 2024 #73
It would likely go to the convention where it's open season. All Mixed Up Apr 2024 #8
That's where I'm at a disadvantage. Talitha Apr 2024 #9
Every modern convention has been a formality for the most part. All Mixed Up Apr 2024 #39
Ah, so the conventions actually DO serve a real purpose on occasion? Talitha Apr 2024 #44
They did. Not anymore, tho. They're now campaign infomercials. All Mixed Up Apr 2024 #63
A Turnip Would Work ProfessorGAC Apr 2024 #10
Honestly, I don't particularly care for them. dawg Apr 2024 #26
My Wife & I Do ProfessorGAC Apr 2024 #52
killer turnips only exist in 1950s science fiction movies where they were created unknowingly by some nuclear incident. Wonder Why Apr 2024 #75
I Doubt MY Puree Was Tried ProfessorGAC Apr 2024 #80
The tough part there is finding one 35-years-old. nt Gore1FL Apr 2024 #71
There are still Republican Primary Elections through June. Haley and DeSantis may jump back in. Fla Dem Apr 2024 #11
Thanks, this is very helpful, and thanks for the link, too. Talitha Apr 2024 #17
I'd venture there'd be a stampede of candidates. Xavier Breath Apr 2024 #13
Can someone actually jump in like that if they didn't even run in the primaries? ShazzieB Apr 2024 #54
I'd think at that point Xavier Breath Apr 2024 #66
Yes. There's no "law" about who can run. There are party rules, but they can be ignored. Lochloosa Apr 2024 #70
A "smoke filled room" of oligarchs... rubbersole Apr 2024 #72
Sure, if they can get someone to place their name in nomination at the convention. DemocraticPatriot Apr 2024 #85
Oh, yeah, I forgot aboout 1968! ShazzieB Apr 2024 #87
RFK jr. Bev54 Apr 2024 #16
I thought he was from a new party, can the repugs still choose him? Talitha Apr 2024 #19
IDK, but he is already campaigning on the same ridiculous shit as Trump. The MAGA will love him. Bev54 Apr 2024 #25
Empty Greene would make one hell of a president doc03 Apr 2024 #18
Ha!!! Can you imagine? Talitha Apr 2024 #21
Yep. Marge, Gaetz, Comer. Irish_Dem Apr 2024 #30
When I read "Marge, Gaetz, Comer," i got the mental image of a 3 headed monster! ShazzieB Apr 2024 #57
Cerberus is a three-headed dog in Greek mythology. Irish_Dem Apr 2024 #61
Yeah, that would fit. ShazzieB Apr 2024 #65
Well we know there are 6 more evil heads in congress. Irish_Dem Apr 2024 #67
We can now see how mythology came to be. Irish_Dem Apr 2024 #68
Can we appreciate that part about him dropping dead for a few moments first? Omnipresent Apr 2024 #20
Heck, let's raise a few just thinking about it. Talitha Apr 2024 #22
The thought makes humm this little ditty. sheshe2 Apr 2024 #76
... Omnipresent Apr 2024 #90
Talitha............ Upthevibe Apr 2024 #23
Great minds think alike, I guess! Talitha Apr 2024 #47
he's not going to die...cockroaches live forever agingdem Apr 2024 #24
Lara Trump? The heir apparent? Or Jr? Ivanka? Irish_Dem Apr 2024 #28
It would be done at the convention. lees1975 Apr 2024 #29
"give Biden 538 electoral votes" Talitha Apr 2024 #34
Without Trump, I don't think there's anyone who can hold the party together. lees1975 Apr 2024 #86
I would REAAAALLLYY like to find out. Think. Again. Apr 2024 #31
A head of lettuce? getagrip_already Apr 2024 #32
I wouldn't be surprised if they picked his son, don jr. But, he is a f**king mess, everytime I see him, his eyes SWBTATTReg Apr 2024 #35
Never heard his teeth clacking - like castanets? LOL... Talitha Apr 2024 #42
Ah, your son is probably right, 'coke grimace'. There's been some videos on there w/ don jr. clacking his teeth... SWBTATTReg Apr 2024 #49
They would probably hold out to see when he rose from the grave. Chainfire Apr 2024 #36
A look-alike *rump WestMichRad Apr 2024 #37
Donnie Jr. Someone already mentioned a turnip. keithbvadu2 Apr 2024 #38
Zombie Trump TwilightZone Apr 2024 #40
Great minds MorbidButterflyTat Apr 2024 #48
My prediction: Brian Kemp, and I wager he could be trouble for us. Celerity Apr 2024 #41
Here's the actual answer (RNC rules) brooklynite Apr 2024 #43
Thanks for this info!! Talitha Apr 2024 #50
Someone else named dump. onecaliberal Apr 2024 #45
The sack of crap's MorbidButterflyTat Apr 2024 #46
Do away with the charade and run Putin rurallib Apr 2024 #51
They would if they could jmowreader Apr 2024 #60
The Democrats replaced Thomas Eagleton in 1972. Thunderbeast Apr 2024 #53
I remember that. Even as young as I was in 1972, I did not like that decision. Deuxcents Apr 2024 #74
I don't think they would run a candidate, if that's possible. MontanaMama Apr 2024 #55
Whoever the highest-ranking militia leader who isn't in prison is jmowreader Apr 2024 #56
The guy with the cow horns on is head - I think he's out already? Talitha Apr 2024 #62
Man, I don't know... jmowreader Apr 2024 #69
"Cow horns"? MorbidButterflyTat Apr 2024 #88
"I Really Don't Care. Do U?" Emile Apr 2024 #58
Goering The Wizard Apr 2024 #59
Marjorie Traitor Greene Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Apr 2024 #64
RFK, Jr and Mike Johnson obamanut2012 Apr 2024 #77
I know two who... Mike Nelson Apr 2024 #78
What a lovely thought..... Blue Owl Apr 2024 #79
Damn! MorbidButterflyTat Apr 2024 #89
likely it would be desantis. Groundhawg Apr 2024 #81
Trump's end is also the end of the Republican Party. The cult explodes.... OAITW r.2.0 Apr 2024 #83
It would depend upon when dsc Apr 2024 #84
 

brooklynite

(96,882 posts)
12. Actually, all the candidates are still running...
Thu Apr 4, 2024, 06:42 PM
Apr 2024

...when campaigns end, they're actually "suspended" so fundraising can continue.

Add to which, Haley, DeSantis and Ramaswany have delegates from the early contests.

getagrip_already

(17,802 posts)
27. Thats true, but tsf still has enough committed felegates to be the nominee
Thu Apr 4, 2024, 06:55 PM
Apr 2024

So none of the other candidates could win the nomination outright.

The rnc would have to vote to release the delegates, and then hold a series of nominations and votes to pick a candidate.

How they do that is up to their rules and bylaws. It could be smoke filled back rooms with plenty of Rudy farts or it could be open and transparent.

Hmm, I wonder which route they would go. Lara?



 

DemocraticPatriot

(5,410 posts)
82. If Trump were dead, I would think his delegates would be automatically released,
Thu Apr 4, 2024, 09:28 PM
Apr 2024

without any 'vote' being necessary. Otherwise you have the ridiculous situation of candidates being pledged to a dead man... and you have to be living to be nominated for president...

hlthe2b

(113,971 posts)
4. Cage Match...
Thu Apr 4, 2024, 06:36 PM
Apr 2024


On second thought, nah... those who would be in "contention" are too cowardly to physically fight for it--unless it is decided by a "Proud Boys" v "3-percenter" fight.

Talitha

(7,988 posts)
9. That's where I'm at a disadvantage.
Thu Apr 4, 2024, 06:40 PM
Apr 2024

I've never watched a convention and have no idea what they do except scream and holler.

 

All Mixed Up

(597 posts)
39. Every modern convention has been a formality for the most part.
Thu Apr 4, 2024, 07:01 PM
Apr 2024

I think the last truly contested convention was the 1976 Republican one but even that was still likely to go to Ford (and it did, tho Reagan put up a fight).

But it was a contested convention.

Every convention since, the nominee has been known at the start and there's not much actual debate as it's all a formality.

In the olden days, back before primaries, you know, when the convention delegates actually picked the nominee, you'd have contested conventions.

Take the 1952 Democratic Convention:

There were multiple ballots before Stevenson finally won enough delegates to be nominated.

On the 1st ballot, he actually lost to Richard Russell and Carey Kefauver. Russell was an segregationist. But because no one had a majority, it went to additional ballots before Stevenson won.

Talitha

(7,988 posts)
44. Ah, so the conventions actually DO serve a real purpose on occasion?
Thu Apr 4, 2024, 07:11 PM
Apr 2024

Thanks for the info, I'm learning a LOT today!

 

All Mixed Up

(597 posts)
63. They did. Not anymore, tho. They're now campaign infomercials.
Thu Apr 4, 2024, 07:40 PM
Apr 2024

It wasn't that long ago, tho, that vice presidents were chosen at the convention, which at least gave it some purpose. I think 1980's Republican Convention was the last time a VP was selected at the convention. There, Reagan announced to the floor he was picking Bush.

After that, the VP has mostly been selected in the weeks leading up to the convention.

ProfessorGAC

(76,704 posts)
52. My Wife & I Do
Thu Apr 4, 2024, 07:23 PM
Apr 2024

So, we just won't tell anybody that you don't like them.
I make a killer turnip puree. I've used rutabaga & parsnips too!. The trick is cinnamon & nutmeg!

Wonder Why

(7,026 posts)
75. killer turnips only exist in 1950s science fiction movies where they were created unknowingly by some nuclear incident.
Thu Apr 4, 2024, 08:53 PM
Apr 2024

Last edited Thu Apr 4, 2024, 09:59 PM - Edit history (1)

And, if I remember right, (it might have been tomatoes or cockroaches), only the overnight development of the negative nuclear atom destroyer by the hero could stop them.

Your puree was tried and it only made the turnips angrier.

ProfessorGAC

(76,704 posts)
80. I Doubt MY Puree Was Tried
Thu Apr 4, 2024, 09:13 PM
Apr 2024

It is a top secret recipe. I keep it in the safe with the plutonium!

Fla Dem

(27,633 posts)
11. There are still Republican Primary Elections through June. Haley and DeSantis may jump back in.
Thu Apr 4, 2024, 06:42 PM
Apr 2024

Add how many delegates they each win going forward to the number they won before they dropped out. If neither gets the required # decide who wins at Republican Convention in July.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-primary-elections/calendar

Xavier Breath

(6,640 posts)
13. I'd venture there'd be a stampede of candidates.
Thu Apr 4, 2024, 06:43 PM
Apr 2024

Hell, Junior or Ivanka might even jump in as a tribute to dear old Dad. The old guard, whatever's left of it, would see an opening and try to push someone more conventional, like Haley or maybe Little Marco. It would be a huge dogpile of shit people, and the backstage shenanigans would be worthy of a Game of Thrones series. Sadly the entire circus would get monster tv ratings. At that point I'd be hoping for some Heaven's Gate-like ending.

ShazzieB

(22,590 posts)
54. Can someone actually jump in like that if they didn't even run in the primaries?
Thu Apr 4, 2024, 07:26 PM
Apr 2024

Just wondering...this is all new to me.

Xavier Breath

(6,640 posts)
66. I'd think at that point
Thu Apr 4, 2024, 07:41 PM
Apr 2024

they'd be in a make-it-up-as-you-go kind of situation, convention bylaws be damned. It would be a race to the bottom for all involved, that's for sure.

Lochloosa

(16,735 posts)
70. Yes. There's no "law" about who can run. There are party rules, but they can be ignored.
Thu Apr 4, 2024, 08:13 PM
Apr 2024

rubbersole

(11,223 posts)
72. A "smoke filled room" of oligarchs...
Thu Apr 4, 2024, 08:24 PM
Apr 2024

...doing what they've been doing. Running the show. They'd pick Brian Kemp, governor of Georgia. I fully expect that to happen even if slobby is still kicking. Repubs have to do something or they will lose everywhere up and down the ballot. Bummer.

 

DemocraticPatriot

(5,410 posts)
85. Sure, if they can get someone to place their name in nomination at the convention.
Thu Apr 4, 2024, 09:34 PM
Apr 2024

Anybody could decide to run at the last minute-- but that doesn't mean they'd get much support.

Vice President Humphrey was nominated in 1968 without having really campaigned in any primaries... but in those days, most of the delegates were chosen in caucuses or other state party means, and he arrived at the convention with a majority of those non-primary delegates supporting him.

ShazzieB

(22,590 posts)
87. Oh, yeah, I forgot aboout 1968!
Thu Apr 4, 2024, 10:38 PM
Apr 2024

I wasn't fully engaged politically back then, so I didn't follow the primaries closely. (I wasn't old enough to vote in 1968, anyway - I turned 18 that year, but voting age was still 21.) Most of what I remember about that convention is the protests and the police brutality. (Ugh.)

Thanks for jogging my memory about 1968.

Bev54

(13,431 posts)
25. IDK, but he is already campaigning on the same ridiculous shit as Trump. The MAGA will love him.
Thu Apr 4, 2024, 06:53 PM
Apr 2024

ShazzieB

(22,590 posts)
57. When I read "Marge, Gaetz, Comer," i got the mental image of a 3 headed monster!
Thu Apr 4, 2024, 07:32 PM
Apr 2024

Kind of like the one in mythology, except that one had 9 heads!

Irish_Dem

(81,266 posts)
61. Cerberus is a three-headed dog in Greek mythology.
Thu Apr 4, 2024, 07:36 PM
Apr 2024

His role is to guard the gates of Hades and allow dead people in but no one out.

Sounds about right.

ShazzieB

(22,590 posts)
65. Yeah, that would fit.
Thu Apr 4, 2024, 07:41 PM
Apr 2024

The hydra was a slithery 9-headed sea creature. Pretty creepy, but way too many heads!

Irish_Dem

(81,266 posts)
67. Well we know there are 6 more evil heads in congress.
Thu Apr 4, 2024, 07:43 PM
Apr 2024

So we have that monster covered too.

sheshe2

(97,627 posts)
76. The thought makes humm this little ditty.
Thu Apr 4, 2024, 08:54 PM
Apr 2024
The Worms Crawl In

[Verse 1]
Don't ever laugh as a hearse goes by
For you may be the next to die
They wrap you up in a big white sheet
From your head down to your feet

[Verse 2]
They put youThe Worms Crawl Inin a big black box
And cover you up with dirt and rocks
And all goes well for about a week
And then your coffin begins to leak

[Chorus]
And the worms crawl in, the worms crawl out
The worms play pinochle on your snout
They eat your eyes, they eat your nose
They eat the jelly between your toes

[Verse 3]
A big green worm with rolling eyes
Crawls in your stomach and out your eyes
Your stomach turns a slimy green
And pus pours out like whipping cream
You spread it on a slice of bread
And that's what you eat when you're dead


[Verse 4]
And the worms crawl out, the worms crawl in
The worms that crawl in are lean and thin
The ones that crawl out are fat and stout
Your eyes fall in and your hair falls out
Your brain comes tumbling down your snout

[Chorus]
The worms crawl in, the worms crawl out
They crawl all over your dirty snout
Your chest caves in and your eyes pop out
And your brain turns to sauerkraut

[Verse 5]
They invite their friends, and their friends too
They all come down to chew on you
And this is what it is to die
Hope you had a nice goodbye

[Verse 6]
Did you ever think as a hearse goes by
That you may be the next to die?
And your eyes fall out and your teeth decay
And that is the end of a perfect day

[Chorus]
The worms crawl in, the worms crawl out
The worms play pinochle on your snout
They eat your eyes, they eat your nose
They eat the jelly between your toes


https://genius.com/Harley-poe-the-worms-crawl-in-lyrics



Upthevibe

(10,180 posts)
23. Talitha............
Thu Apr 4, 2024, 06:52 PM
Apr 2024

I have wondered about this myself.

IMHO, they don't have a deep bench at all! I mean there's practically a civil war in the party. I don't know who they all would/could get behind...

I didn't want to look at other responses before I posted so I'll check it out now....

BTW.... Great post

lees1975

(7,046 posts)
29. It would be done at the convention.
Thu Apr 4, 2024, 06:55 PM
Apr 2024

We are too far along in the Primary season for a single candidate to come out with enough votes to win it via the primaries. They'd have to open up nominations at the convention and hold ballots and runoffs until they had a nominee. I can see some manipulative sneak like Charlie Kirk, or one of Trump's sons getting the nomination because MAGA cultists aren't going to support a mainstream Republican like Haley or a wannabe like Desantis.

I think if that happened it would fracture the party, split MAGA off from the mainstream Republicans and give Biden 538 electoral votes. The MAGA choice would be someone more insane and demented and evil than Trump, and the mainstream Republican who survived the fight wouldn't get enough votes to carry one state.


Talitha

(7,988 posts)
34. "give Biden 538 electoral votes"
Thu Apr 4, 2024, 07:00 PM
Apr 2024

Dang, I like the sound of that!

Thanks for the info regarding convention rules, I'm learning a lot in this discussion!

lees1975

(7,046 posts)
86. Without Trump, I don't think there's anyone who can hold the party together.
Thu Apr 4, 2024, 09:40 PM
Apr 2024

The MAGAs won't be interested in a mainstream Republican, even an extreme one, and without Trump, there'd be a lot of relief among the regular side of the party. I believe it would fracture.

SWBTATTReg

(26,257 posts)
35. I wouldn't be surprised if they picked his son, don jr. But, he is a f**king mess, everytime I see him, his eyes
Thu Apr 4, 2024, 07:00 PM
Apr 2024

are bloodshot, his teeth are clacking together, and he can barely get his words out. He's a junkie on something, I don't what (and don't care), but to pay any attention to this moron, is a big mistake for anybody. Must have picked up the habit from his daddy (snorting through the nose, etc.). Someone had told me what drug does the clacking together of the teeth, etc., but I can't recall what it is. Maybe (just a wild guess) Ecstasy? Or better, coke.

Another big loser (don jr). I'm surprised he hasn't had a heart attack yet.

Talitha

(7,988 posts)
42. Never heard his teeth clacking - like castanets? LOL...
Thu Apr 4, 2024, 07:08 PM
Apr 2024

But I've seen his 'coke grimace'... that's what my son calls it. He said wrestler Randy Savage did all the time - I thought it was just the way the guy talked.

SWBTATTReg

(26,257 posts)
49. Ah, your son is probably right, 'coke grimace'. There's been some videos on there w/ don jr. clacking his teeth...
Thu Apr 4, 2024, 07:16 PM
Apr 2024

since I read lips for most of my hearing, I observed his teeth clacking, and it drove me nuts. Hard to read lips this way.

Your son is smart, and I'll use that term, coke grimace. It suits these cokeheads.

WestMichRad

(3,254 posts)
37. A look-alike *rump
Thu Apr 4, 2024, 07:01 PM
Apr 2024

Just theorizing that they would try to cover up his death. AI could possibly generate a passable word salad maker to stand in for TSF.
(?)

 

brooklynite

(96,882 posts)
43. Here's the actual answer (RNC rules)
Thu Apr 4, 2024, 07:10 PM
Apr 2024
The first meeting of the Republican National Committee shall take place within five (5) days after the adjournment of the national convention. Such meeting and all other meetings of the Republican National Committee shall take place upon the call of the chairman, or, in case of a vacancy in the chairmanship, upon the call of the co-chairman, or, in case of a vacancy in the chairmanship and the co-chairmanship, upon the call of the vice chairman senior in time of service as a member of the Republican National Committee; provided, however, that such call shall be issued at least ten (10) days in advance of the date of the proposed meeting, except that if one of the purposes of a meeting of the Republican National Committee is to fill a vacancy in the office of Republican candidate for President of the United States or Republican candidate for Vice President of the United States, then only five (5) days’ notice of the purpose, date, and place of said meeting shall be required.

https://prod-static.gop.com/media/Rules_Of_The_Republican_Party.pdf

Thunderbeast

(3,819 posts)
53. The Democrats replaced Thomas Eagleton in 1972.
Thu Apr 4, 2024, 07:26 PM
Apr 2024

It was learned that the nominated VP candidate had suffered from depression in prior years, and been treated with electro-shock therapy. He stepped down from the ticket and the party replaced him with Sargent Schriver (a Kennedy cousin).

MontanaMama

(24,722 posts)
55. I don't think they would run a candidate, if that's possible.
Thu Apr 4, 2024, 07:27 PM
Apr 2024

They’re a hot mess. They can’t find their collective ass with both hands. And yet, the media would say the Dems are In disarray.

jmowreader

(53,194 posts)
56. Whoever the highest-ranking militia leader who isn't in prison is
Thu Apr 4, 2024, 07:31 PM
Apr 2024

My calculus: The only possible route they have to win the 2024 election is to have Donald Trump on the ballot. So...if Trump croaks, they have a golden opportunity to get rid of Trump's anti-everything fan base and go back to being the party that only likes to cut taxes and reduce the size of government. And to do that, they need a candidate who's going to get absolutely stomped in November.

Hence, the proper way forward is to find the most repugnant asshole on the face of the planet who's eligible to run for president and have him be the candidate. I thought about Enrique Tarrio (president of Proud Boys) or Stewart Rhodes (founder of Oath Keepers) but they're both in federal prison so...that probably won't work.

The alternative is Ted Nugent, but running him for president makes this scheme WAY too obvious.

jmowreader

(53,194 posts)
69. Man, I don't know...
Thu Apr 4, 2024, 07:45 PM
Apr 2024

On one hand, he is pretty tempting as a vote-discourager.

On the other, organic ketchup for him to throw against the wall isn't cheap.

Mike Nelson

(10,943 posts)
78. I know two who...
Thu Apr 4, 2024, 09:05 PM
Apr 2024

... it WON'T be. First of all, the Trump delegates would never vote for Nikki Haley. They are not rational. It won't be her. Second, it won't be Trump... why do I say it won't be him, after he dies? Because there will be people expecting a resurrection. They will be disappointed. He will not push the casket open on the following Sunday and resume his campaign.

Blue Owl

(59,104 posts)
79. What a lovely thought.....
Thu Apr 4, 2024, 09:08 PM
Apr 2024

Dump being whisked away to hell by the specter of death makes me feel all warm and fuzzy……


OAITW r.2.0

(32,133 posts)
83. Trump's end is also the end of the Republican Party. The cult explodes....
Thu Apr 4, 2024, 09:29 PM
Apr 2024

and goes to war with each other. A new "Conservative" Replacement Party doesn't recover until the 2032.

dsc

(53,397 posts)
84. It would depend upon when
Thu Apr 4, 2024, 09:33 PM
Apr 2024

before the convention, they would have an open convention with Haley having the most committed delegates. Post convention, I have no idea. My guess is the party would pick the replacement similar to what happened when Wellstone was killed while campaigning for the US Senate.

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