Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News Editorials & Other Articles General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

lees1975

(6,956 posts)
Fri Apr 5, 2024, 12:19 PM Apr 2024

Why aren't Paul Gosar and Andy Biggs facing prosecution with other January 6th conspirators and criminals?

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/04/04/biggs-gosar-arizona-subpoenas-00150416

The little guys are getting sent to prison. Why isn't our Justice Department going after perps like these two Arizona Congressmen, and the other Republicans involved in fake elector schemes and the insurrection?

Do they think it will look to political?
19 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
Why aren't Paul Gosar and Andy Biggs facing prosecution with other January 6th conspirators and criminals? (Original Post) lees1975 Apr 2024 OP
Garland. onecaliberal Apr 2024 #1
Godwin 2.0 Fiendish Thingy Apr 2024 #2
Garland told Magats that he wouldn't be partisan gab13by13 Apr 2024 #3
But that Hunter Biden had dick pics for heaven's sake!!!!!!! WA-03 Democrat Apr 2024 #4
DOJ investigated Hunter Biden for 6 years gab13by13 Apr 2024 #6
total agree WA-03 Democrat Apr 2024 #9
Thank goodness Fiendish Thingy Apr 2024 #12
Nobody ignores a *judicial* subpeona without consequences Fiendish Thingy Apr 2024 #11
This from Betsy Swann, Politico gab13by13 Apr 2024 #5
Kris Mayes WA-03 Democrat Apr 2024 #10
She is excellent. lees1975 Apr 2024 #19
A lot of us would like to know why J6 congress persons have been allowed to run for re-election CrispyQ Apr 2024 #7
I would like to know why any J6 apologists - or any 2020 election denier - remain in office. NewHendoLib Apr 2024 #15
I believe they were listed as unindicted co-conspirators on Trump's indictment Fiendish Thingy Apr 2024 #8
They could still be facing indictment RussBLib Apr 2024 #13
What's stopping Garland from indicting them? gab13by13 Apr 2024 #14
Good question. Answer: Crickets republianmushroom Apr 2024 #16
K&R UTUSN Apr 2024 #17
We have fake elector schemes, we have GOP members of Congress who basically opened the door of the Capitol lees1975 Apr 2024 #18

gab13by13

(31,620 posts)
3. Garland told Magats that he wouldn't be partisan
Fri Apr 5, 2024, 12:22 PM
Apr 2024

Congressional Magats have immunity. As a matter of fact Gosar and Biggs can ignore the subpoena I believe.

When Scott Perry is indicted then I will change my mind.

gab13by13

(31,620 posts)
6. DOJ investigated Hunter Biden for 6 years
Fri Apr 5, 2024, 12:28 PM
Apr 2024

They investigated what was Russian propaganda. After 6 years they did indict Hunter for not paying his taxes, which he later paid, and it is a crime that is rarely prosecuted but Garland must show Magats he is not partisan.

Fiendish Thingy

(22,454 posts)
11. Nobody ignores a *judicial* subpeona without consequences
Fri Apr 5, 2024, 12:34 PM
Apr 2024

Lots of folks have gotten away with ignoring congressional subpoenas, but, AFAIK, none of Trump’s co-conspirators have ignored subpeonas issued by a court/grand jury.

They may have attempted to quash the subpoenas or claim executive privilege or Speech and Debate exception, but nobody ignores a subpoena issued by a judge.

gab13by13

(31,620 posts)
5. This from Betsy Swann, Politico
Fri Apr 5, 2024, 12:25 PM
Apr 2024

"There is no indication that Arizona Attorney General Kris Mayes, who is leading the probe, is considering bringing criminal charges against either lawmaker. And it’s unclear whether Mayes has insisted on enforcing the subpoenas against the lawmakers, who may have legal bases to resist testifying."

Big fat nothingburger.

lees1975

(6,956 posts)
19. She is excellent.
Sat Apr 6, 2024, 02:07 PM
Apr 2024

She has been able to charge several county supervisors who illegally tried to hand-count ballots and obstruct the 2022 election because of the conspiracy theories they pushed from 2020. Two in Cochise County are particularly deserving of jail time.

CrispyQ

(40,804 posts)
7. A lot of us would like to know why J6 congress persons have been allowed to run for re-election
Fri Apr 5, 2024, 12:28 PM
Apr 2024

without any legal encumbrances at all.

NewHendoLib

(61,696 posts)
15. I would like to know why any J6 apologists - or any 2020 election denier - remain in office.
Fri Apr 5, 2024, 01:04 PM
Apr 2024

Last edited Fri Apr 5, 2024, 02:46 PM - Edit history (1)

Fiendish Thingy

(22,454 posts)
8. I believe they were listed as unindicted co-conspirators on Trump's indictment
Fri Apr 5, 2024, 12:29 PM
Apr 2024
Smith, not Garland, chose to focus his initial indictments solely on Trump, for strategic reasons not disclosed to us.

Perhaps he wants to avoid the 20 defendant circus that Willis is facing in GA, or even the challenges that prosecuting 4 defendants in Cannon’s court has presented?

We know Meadows has a cooperation agreement with DOJ; once the co-conspirators know what he has shared (which will happen once discovery occurs in the J6 trial), we may see them clamouring for their own deals, which will never be as sweet as Meadows’.

We don’t know what we don’t know, and to make purely speculative assumptions based on the absence of public information is to risk the public embarrassment of the speculator.

RussBLib

(10,464 posts)
13. They could still be facing indictment
Fri Apr 5, 2024, 12:49 PM
Apr 2024

...Arizona AG has subpoenaed both of them to testify to a Grand Jury investigating the fake electors. I documents could come there.

But go ahead, blame Garland for no good reason.

gab13by13

(31,620 posts)
14. What's stopping Garland from indicting them?
Fri Apr 5, 2024, 01:03 PM
Apr 2024

The fake elector scheme was across many states. The Michigan AG Dana Nessel sent a criminal referral to DOJ to prosecute her fake electors, waited 1 year and got no response, so she is prosecuting her fake electors herself.

lees1975

(6,956 posts)
18. We have fake elector schemes, we have GOP members of Congress who basically opened the door of the Capitol
Sat Apr 6, 2024, 01:23 PM
Apr 2024

to let rioters in, gave them tours so they knew how to effectively get to the people they wanted to murder and stop the proceedings, and those who engaged in all of this exhibited a clear disdain for the constitution.

It's been way over three years and none of those in congress who supported this and helped carry it out have been prosecuted. I don't care if it looks political, there's no other choice. Either we enforce the law equally, or it's worthless.

We have no will to enforce the rule of law. Might as well open the jails and prisons, dismiss all charges and let them all go.

Latest Discussions»General Discussion»Why aren't Paul Gosar and...