Even NBC sees the light

[malaise]

Link to tweet

Nothing justifies this evil

[magicarpet]

1. That blew the concept of changing hearts and minds right out the window.

Netanyahu is a sick - sick man.

How can one of Jewish ethnic heritage think and act like a Fascist Nazi ?

[PSPS]

4. Because Netanyahu knows his next stop is prison. He cares about nothing and nobody else now.

Maybe his bombing in Syria last week was intended to get Iran into a confrontation so he could have multiple wars that the US taxpayer has to fund (and, by implication, approve of.)

[PatSeg]

23. Being a wartime leader

is often a ploy to avoid legal and political consequences of corruption. The problem is you can't sustain it forever, not to mention all the people who die in the process. He is acting like a desperate man backed into a corner.

The fact that one pathetic man can cause so much death and destruction is mindboggling, but he certainly isn't the first and sadly, he will not be the last.

[heckles65]

61. As I understand it

Its why Galtieri initiated the Falklands War.

[PatSeg]

70. It would appear so

They are all so predictable using pretty much the same playbook.

[Hope22]

25. Could we just put him in a jail cell with

Putin and TSF? That would solve so many problems!

[OMGWTF]

41. Throw warmongers GeeDumbya and Cheney The Dick in there too.

[Hope22]

44. Perfect.

That is a.good start! 😊

[progressoid]

34. Who is going to put him in prison?

[bdamomma]

33. Netanyahu

wants to stay out of prison, sounds familiar huh??? He's Israel's tRump.

[enid602]

35. Afraid

So much for Ivy League coeds being afraid to walk from the dining hall to the sorority house.

[myohmy2]

42. +1...

....

[Traurigkeit]

45. Reminds one of a quote from the past

Sinclair:

You forgot the first rule of the fanatic: when you become obsessed with the enemy, you become the enemy!

Babylon 5, Season 1: Signs and Portents
Babylon 5 (1993-1998)

[tritsofme]

2. Hamas should surrender immediately. That is all.

[PSPS]

7. Sorry, the tread is gone on that tire.

People aren't buying the "starve babies to death because of Hamas" nonsense.

[SharonAnn]

8. Hamas should surender.

[Orrex]

46. Well, they won't, and Bibi knows it. And you know it. So what next?

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Why do so many here think that Israel has carte blanche to bomb Gaza flat? How many innocent Palestinian civilians must die before Israel's imaginary "moral authority" finally expires?

Or is there no limit?

[OrangeJoe]

54. The video

I assume the university buildings were empty. Given that what was the purpose of blowing them to pieces? What is Israel's long term strategy in Gaza? Unless their plan is to completely ethnically cleanse Gaza why destroy every building?

[RandomNumbers]

62. Where are the hostages? Lots of us aren't buying this "ignore the hostages" b.s.

n.b. I agree Israel is handling it badly and the suffering of children due to the evil of Hamas, is wrong. But this is ALL driven #1 by Hamas, and then #2 by Netanyahu. These are two sides who will fight until every one else is dead, while they stay safe in their protected towers.

Meanwhile, the hostages are innocents too.

And every time the hostages are ignored, the stake is driven deeper to widen the rift that makes actual peace so difficult.

[ZonkerHarris]

24. Now do the Taliban, bank robbers, rapists, and ISIS.

[TheProle]

36. They already did rapists.

[AZLD4Candidate]

64. Yes, 1200 innocent civilians murdered in terrorist attacks in one day don't hunt no more

After all, they are just Israelis and Star and David people. Our blood has been cheap for centuries.

[TeamProg]

74. More than one poster has defended the war on Gaza saying, 'Were we supposed to nothing after 10/7? Just turn

the other cheek?'

What do you now expect the Palestinians to do after 30k+ are dead and their cities destroyed? Turn the other cheek?

I have to wonder what security and terrorist experts are predicting for Israel. Will Israel within 10 years become a 24/7 high security nation of squelched freedoms? OR will Netanyahu end up smelling like a rose in great victory and the M.E. will be at peace?

Which scenario is more likely? Just asking for a friend.

Are you better off now than you were four years ago?

[Iggo]

65. If Hamas surrenders, then Israel will stop the crimes against humanity?

Wow! Very generous.

They’re the best!

[Nixie]

71. Yes. Now we have to see Israel blamed for poor conditions in Gaza when it's known Hamas would rather

spend their money on underground tunnels to kill Jews instead of building up their own territory from the vast amounts of money given to them by other rich AF Arab countries. Qatar is a world-class opulent destination, so why can't Gaza be built up, too. Who is stopping that from happening? It seems like a lot of Israel haters in the region have been fine with Gaza being used as a rubbled staging area to go kill Israelis.

[TeamProg]

73. Hamas may feel that they've won.

[flying_wahini]

3. Israel has lost any and all higher moral standing in the world because of it. Gone forever.

I’m afraid that payback will be a real bitch.

[malaise]

5. Effin evil

You are correct

[BComplex]

16. Netanyahu is the Stephen Miller of Israel.

Stephen Miller is Trump's nazi friend who decided that taking children out of the arms of their parents at the U.S. border was barely cruel enough to entertain him fully.

[Blue Owl]

53. Netanyahu and Nasferatu

[WarGamer]

6. some folks still don't get it...

the misery IS the goal...

Israel wants a vacant Gaza to build settlements... and eventual beachfront resorts

[PSPS]

9. Most Israelis don't back this (hostage families included) and they loathe the criminal Netanyahu.

It's his far-right Frankenstein coalition of loons that adheres to your description.

[WarGamer]

10. that gives me hope...

[BComplex]

20. The Israeli people are not the problem...well, except for the right wingers who keep Netanyahu in power.

But the vast majority of the Jews, and other nationalities living in Israel, are by nature good and compassionate, and horrified by what is going on in Gaza. Netanyahu is, indeed, trying to keep himself out of prison, just like our crazy assed trump.

[RandomNumbers]

63. The only problem I see with that - the people voted FOR these effed up "leaders".

Israel voted for the butcher Bibi. But many are calling for elections now. (I haven't heard exact per cent, so maybe not enough of them.)

Palestinians voted for the Hamas butchers and rapists. Last I heard, 70% still support Hamas AND what was done on October 7th. (Let that sink in.)

I can believe some of the votes and ongoing support came/come from cluelessness. That could make it a tragedy more than pure evil. But still - as Americans we need to keep this in perspective. We have a binary choice in November - and one of those choices will destroy THIS country.

[BlueMTexpat]

56. This is something

that should ALSO be remembered.

Just as many of us opposed Bush II-Cheney's war in Iraq and are still absolutely livid about that decision and its consequences, some of which include the current state of events in the ME.

Of course, I am also one who opposed Bush I's war in Iraq as well.

Awful as Saddam was (and he certainly was), he believed that he had Bush I's tacit OK to attack Kuwait and he certainly had cause to believe so. Kuwait was also NOT an innocent party as it was drilling into Iraqi reserves.

But at least Bush I wasn't listening to corrupt Iraqi Shi'ites and others who had their own agendas and he knew when to stop.

[LiberalArkie]

17. I posted on that months ago with words from Netanyahu's mouth, be the posts were locked

and it was called anti-semitic remarks.

[Orrex]

47. You're not alone

I posted much the same thing and was assailed by Netanyahu's defenders, who likewise called me anti-semetic and accused me of being pro-Hamas.

Because I also had the nerve to suggest that maybe, just maybe, Netanyahu and the IDF could try to stop starving Palestinian children.

When moral authority is gone--and it is long gone--the defenders have nothing except false accusations.

[Attilatheblond]

52. AND the natural gas fields just off the coast there

Lots of money laying under the water. Just need some 'safe' terminals on the coast to allow ships to load. It's not just about 'space for settlements'.

[Hassin Bin Sober]

11. It's. Called. Ethnic. Cleansing.

[marble falls]

12. Nothing, nada, not a thing, nil .......

[Basic LA]

13. It's difficult to process this horror.

Action is demanded, but what action? Peaceful protests & marches often go awry and are labeled pro Hamas.
Withholding political support is an effective statement but is seen as aiding American Fascists in the long run.
Commenting in forums brings a hailstorm of accusations from those who think Israel can do no wrong.
With every plea thwarted, we helplessly watch starving families and orphaned children die in a bombed-out death camp, our tax dollars at work, even as Netanyahu widens the war.
Something's got to give and our only hope is that a new stance is taking shape in DC against the perpetrator of this vengeful genocide (as it's perceived). A new stance that will right the wrongs of the brutal 75-year occupation.
It might be a generation-long struggle. But maybe something hopeful will rise at last from Gaza's rubble.

[AloeVera]

39. My hope too.

Well said.

We hope for a measure of justice at last. After this horror especially, the status quo, or worse, is unthinkable.

[Basic LA]

40. Unthinkable.

Thanks.

[magicarpet]

14. Will Bibby be carpet bombing the West Bank with our planes, smart bombs, and munitions ?

Israel's blowback will be our blowback too. We are in reality Bibby's weapons and arms suppliers.

Is it America's ambition to put the Merchant of Death - Viktor Bout to shame, because the USA one upped him in permitting the killing of innocents ?

[BlueMTexpat]

57. He's pretty much

leaving the West Bank in the hands of those in illegal settlements there.

It's worked so far.

[Lonestarblue]

60. Actually, he established a fund to recruit people to come to Israel and steal land in East Jerusalem and the West Bank.

He encourages illegal settlers to take Palestinian lands and gives the IDF impunity to murder them. In spite of the numerous warnings Netanyahu received, some from his own intelligence groups, about the Hamas attack, Bibi moved troops from the Gaza border where the attack took place to the West Bank so the IDF could support more illegal settler attacks on Palestinians. That move left the border with Gaza poorly protected and most likely contributed to the number of Israeli deaths.

[madinmaryland]

15. The next question we should be asking is who will Trump drag us into war with...

I know it did work for Cheney/BushII, but it could be trumps goal. Though I think Trump is too fucking stupid to figure that out.

[Hekate]

18. Tunnels?

Just asking, not trying to start a fight.

[slumcamper]

19. Let's call this what it is--EVIL

At some point defense and retaliation become what might be termed "retribution." And at some point retribution becomes EVIL.

We are there.

[BidenRocks]

30. They are trump.

I am your retribution!
That is not my American ideal.

[malaise]

32. I will continue to condemn it

Evil is what this is

[Warpy]

21. Netanyahu saw no other way but to crush Hamas

crushing Gaza completely is how he thinks that is going to be accomplished.

You can't kill an idea, no matter how bad it is. Bibi has only ensured that it will be back and probably twice as vicious the next time.

[0rganism]

43. Disagree - Netanyahu is relying on Hamas continuing as a threat until Gaza is annexed

He could have the IDF exterminate every Palestinian in Gaza and Hamas would only be closer to victory, which appears to be what's happening already. Israel's national credibility as anything but a brutal client state of the USA is shot to hell, leaving no way their Arab neighbors recognize them as legitimate now. Hamas has their goal, and they're willing to sacrifice any number of their fellows to achieve it.

Meanwhile Israel's involvement in territorial conflict is the main thing keeping Bibi in office. IMHO, Bibi expects the annexation of Gaza and West Bank lands to restore him to popularity and power.

[Orrex]

48. Impossible!

The very same people who've accused me of being a pro-Hamas antisemite have insisted that Netanyahu has no plans to occupy Gaza.

The couldn't be wrong, could they?

[0rganism]

50. Early on, I think people were generally more inclined to give Israel and the IDF benefit of the doubt

That "goodwill" has since bled out, and the triple-tap on WCK pretty much nailed the coffin shut.

Not sure what you said to get hit with the "antisemitic Hamas supporter" tag, I can probably guess, but that "u luvs Hamas" stuff was getting thrown around a lot up until last week, often unfairly and with little pushback. Initially I thought the Israelis would be able to resolve the crisis by securing the release of the hostages through use of skilled Mossad ninja teams; only in January did I begin to harbor serious doubts. I was wrong back then, I underestimated the degree to which Israel's government and army had been corrupted over the preceding 3 decades, and how irresponsible America had been to not only allow but fund and enable that deterioration.

This is all so very sad, and I can only hope the record will stand as a warning for future humans.

[KS Toronado]

22. Did they dynamite that whole complex?

Sure didn't look like one bomb.

[malaise]

31. Ask the experts

Don’t know

[OrangeJoe]

55. Fuel air explosion

I saw them do the same thing in downtown Beirut in 1982.

[AloeVera]

66. Mined. Over 300 mines.

It was a painstaking, meticulous operation. Palestinians can't have nice things like an education.

[Jrose]

26. Children are at the heart of war...

Just watched CBS NY 6pm coverage , which showed, uncensored, so many bloody and traumatized Gazan children and infants.
I couldn't stop crying and gasping throughout.

[malaise]

29. It is beyond sickening

It is evil

[David__77]

27. The point has been to erase the basis of life for millions of people.

[malaise]

28. That sure looks like the plan

It will never have my support
Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.

[Silent Type]

37. Gaza had less than $20 Billion GNP, probably near zero now. We are missing an opportunity

if we don’t pump in $5 B annually or so for years to rebuild/advance Gaza. My guess is that we just keep providing bombs, creating hostilities for decades.

[bdamomma]

38. Netanyahu

is another war criminal. Lock him up too. He was never for a 2-state solution.

[oasis]

49. 1

[WhiteTara]

51. Evil is never justifiable

[vrendtop]

58. General Discussion

Nice post and please provide more information. Thanks for sharing.

[KPN]

59. Whoa! That was massive! And obviously

intentional. Shame on Israelis who support Netanyahu — this is just plain evil.

[DownriverDem]

67. But

trump supports Israel and young voters better wake up.

[NoMoreRepugs]

68. Bibi has solidified that this will NEVER end. This may lie dormant after some arrangement is

worked out for this chapter, but when u commit genocide of innocents the repercussions last for generations IMO.

[malaise]

69. THIS

Rec

[TeamProg]

72. More than one poster has defended the war on Gaza saying, 'Were we supposed to nothing after 10/7? Just turn

the other cheek?'

What do you now expect the Palestinians to do after 30k+ are dead and their cities destroyed? Turn the other cheek?

I have to wonder what security and terrorist experts are predicting for Israel. Will Israel within 10 years become a 24/7 high security nation of squelched freedoms? OR will Netanyahu end up smelling like a rose in great victory and the M.E. will be at peace?

Which is scenario more likely? Just asking for a friend.