Now Alabama is trying to keep Biden off the general ballot

[Nevilledog]

https://www.al.com/news/2024/04/alabama-secretary-of-state-says-democratic-convention-too-late-to-get-biden-on-ballot-this-fall.html


Alabama Secretary of State Wes Allen has notified the state and national Democratic parties that the scheduled date of the Democratic National Convention is a few days after the deadline for the party to put its nominees for president and vice president on the ballot for the general election in November.

Allen, who is a Republican, said state law requires parties to provide a certification of nomination for president and vice president no later than Aug. 15.

“It has recently come to my attention that the Democratic National Convention is currently scheduled to convene on August 19, 2024, which is after the State of Alabama’s statutory deadline for political parties to provide a certificate of nomination for President and Vice President,” Allen wrote in a letter to Randy Kelley, Chair of the Alabama Democratic Party. “If this Office has not received a valid certificate of nomination from the Democratic Party following its convention by the statutory deadline, I will be unable to certify the names of the Democratic Party’s candidates for President and Vice President for ballot preparation for the 2024 general election.”

Allen’s office also sent a copy of the letter to Jaime R. Henderson, Chair of the Democratic National Committee.

*snip*


I'm so tired of these fucking assholes.

And that's Harrison, not Henderson.

[Baitball Blogger]

1. At least they're giving us warnings.

[Nevilledog]

2. It's bullshit

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Alabama Sec of State says Biden can’t be on ballot because since 1975 state law has required nomination by Aug 15, before this year’s Dem convention. Funny how GOP/Dem conventions have been later 13 TIMES since 1975 — including both parties in 2020 — and it never was an issue.

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As I understand it, the Supreme Court will now intervene and unanimously restore Biden to the ballot? https://al.com/news/2024/04/alabama-secretary-of-state-says-democratic-convention-too-late-to-get-biden-on-ballot-this-fall.html
1:26 PM · Apr 9, 2024

[Baitball Blogger]

6. Correct. But it opens them up for an injunction.

More to the point, why did Democrats in Alabama not see this coming? Did they seriously expect Republicans to play fair?

[TheRealNorth]

34. Isn't it the job of the people that plan for the Convention...

To know these deadlines? Don't see how this is the fault of Alabama Democrats.

[TomSlick]

36. Yes, it is.

The DNC should ensure it knows state deadlines. Even in a blue state, the deadline must be met to prevent a legal challenge.

[Baitball Blogger]

41. This has the feeling of a FUBAR.

[Igel]

46. They have for years.

The usual response, as in Ohio in 2020, is to have the legislature pass a waiver of some kind.

They think many (D) didn't play fair a short while back and since since the gloves are off, don't bring a butter knife to a sword fight.

[SergeStorms]

12. They're pulling out all the stops....

to get their fascist criminal selected president once more. They know this is, in all likelihood, their last chance to get Mango Mussolini back in the White House.

This is going to get even crazier as we get closer to election day.

[lees1975]

3. They're trying to guarantee Biden carries the state.

That's a pretty good motivator to get people to turn out and vote on the Democratic side. Write him in if he's not there, they must certify that and can't stop anyone from doing it. A good organized effort to make sure he's on both Ohio and Alabama ballots might net him 26 electoral votes.

[Initech]

9. Fox News' reign of terror is over.

Time to flush the turds in November!

[ArkansasDemocrat1]

15. I'll vote 10-15 times if I have to to make the plumbing choke it down! /s n/t

[Initech]

23. Time to call Roto Rooter!

[druidity33]

55. You're real close to

100,000 posts. Got any special plans?

[Initech]

59. Thinking about it!

[maxsolomon]

24. Biden carry Alabama?

You're quite the optimist.

[Bettie]

38. I was gone for a few days

what's up with Ohio?

[Ferrets are Cool]

51. They are doing the same exact shit.

[Bettie]

52. Of course they are

because, of fucking course.

I did look it up and it is also on the DNC to know these deadlines and work within them, because everyone should know that Republicans are assholes and will do whatever they can to show that to everyone on the planet.

[AllaN01Bear]

4. write him in like the ds have been in other states . i would

[Hekate]

22. I'm pretty sure those ballots would be discarded as mis-marked. Voter Suppression to the Max.

[Cha]

5. So.. since the SCOTUS decided Colorado couldn't keep

the Indicted up his Ass, TSF Off the Ballot.. would not the same apply to Democratic Pres Joe Biden?

[LiberalArkie]

8. 2 different situations really. Trump has not been convicted of the insurrection stuff yet. And the Democratic

party will be late and should have seen that years ago.

But I think the "Democratic Party" button on the voting machine will still be pressed more times than the other ones.

[paleotn]

33. In 2020, both the D and R conventions, thus nominations, were after the Alabama deadline.

i.e., this is bullshit anyway you want to slice it.

[MichMan]

39. Lots of election laws were ignored or changed during covid

[NanaCat]

47. So explain now why Alabama is doing this now

Despite national parties holding their conventions after the deadline 11 other times--both sides.

I'll wait.

[MichMan]

48. The post I replied was specifically regarding 2020

[LiberalArkie]

57. Yep.. The "letter of the law" always comes back to bite ya in the ass.

[h2ebits]

11. Colorado was trying to keep TFG off the primary ballot--not the general one

As far as I am concerned, the Republicans have now read the rules and are just following the law. That they haven't been doing it for years doesn't matter. The Democratic Party should be following the law also--AND should have known better.

It's the political clown car of ignorance.

[Cha]

14. Fuck the Fascist MAGATS.

[4lbs]

7. Biden has had enough delegates to be the official DNC nominee since after March 5,

Super Tuesday. Just like Dumpy the Clown.

These states are just trying to eff things up because they know secretly that Dumpy the Clown will lose bigly, even more than he did in 2020.

They are trying all these last gasp measures to keep a dude that will beat the ever loving piss out of him away from voters.

Maybe some blue states should do the same thing, and when GOPpers cry about it, take it to the USSC, which will then be in a Catch-22 situation.

[whopis01]

21. Yes - the Democrats need to certify Biden prior to these deadlines.

It will turn the convention into a "just for show" event - but it kind of already was.

[relayerbob]

10. To be honest ....

I want to know who at the DNC didn't bother to confirm all these dates. Yes, the states are being assholes about it, but none of these deadlines are new, or secret.

Seriously, WTF? NO one spent the hour or whatever to look up the freaking ballot deadlines before scheduling the convention? How many more states is this going to be a problem in? What the hell are they spending all my money on, balloons? This is Political Scheduling 101.

[ecstatic]

25. I agree. That person should be fired and replaced. nt

[relayerbob]

44. Absolutely should not be in that role

[oldsoftie]

31. Thank you! Its not like they changed the date AFTER the convention date was announced.

Unless thats what they DID do, but apparently not.
Its their law aren't they supposed to enforce it?
Biden has the delegates; announce him as the candidate or do whatever has to be done to make it "legal" before these deadlines.

[relayerbob]

43. Agreed, the convention is a formality

If it was truly contested, that might be different, but it isn't

[BumRushDaShow]

13. This is the latest tactic - OH just pulled one of these bogus things too

OH's case has actually been in the news longer so I am surprised (or maybe shouldn't be) that yet another red state is doing this.

Biden could miss the deadline for the November ballot in Ohio, the state’s election office says

Updated 10:26 AM EDT, April 8, 2024


TOLEDO, Ohio (AP) — President Joe Biden could be left off the ballot in Ohio this fall unless the state’s Republican-dominated legislature creates an exception to the ballot deadline or the Democratic Party moves up its convention, according to the office that oversees the state’s elections.

Ohio’s deadline to certify presidential candidates for the general election is Aug. 7, nearly two weeks before the Democratic National Convention, at which Biden is expected to be nominated to run against Republican challenger Donald Trump.

Ohio law requires that presidential candidates be certified 90 days before the general election, which is on Nov. 5 this year, said a letter written last week by Paul DiSantis, chief legal counsel for Republican Secretary of State Frank LaRose. “Please contact me as soon as possible with any information that can assure this office of timely compliance with Ohio law,” the letter said.

The Biden campaign said Monday that it does not expect the snag to keep the president off the ballot. “We’re monitoring the situation in Ohio, and we’re confident that Joe Biden will be on the ballot in all 50 states,” the campaign said in a statement.

(snip)

https://apnews.com/article/biden-election-2024-ohio-ballot-e674776d8832905986d848b7546d0240

[Cha]

17. I sure as HECK HOPE SO.. Good Grief!!

TY!

[AZSkiffyGeek]

40. I'm enjoying everyone blaming Democrats here

Not surprised really…

[Cha]

42. I replied to

One with my usual “fuck Fascist magats”.

I actually couldn’t believe it now that you mention it.. .. standing up for fascists and saying Dems weren’t smart or something to that effect.

[AZSkiffyGeek]

53. It's the idea that the party/administration (which ultimately means Biden) are incompetent

In four months there may be a problem, so let’s assume that nobody who can do anything about it isn’t aware or making any effort to fix it.
This campaign has been masterful - the trolling and messaging are strong, I’m already seeing ads, and the social media game is en pointe (I got a fundraising e-mail yesterday mocking TFG looking at the eclipse).
But one piece of news comes out and the sky is falling, and the party is incompetent - if only they listened to the concern trolls calling for their heads.

[Cha]

54. Yeah.. TY! We Need All Hands On Deck! This is Too

Important to FAFO!

Link to tweet

[AverageOldGuy]

16. Everybody relax

After Super Tuesday Biden has enough delegates to be the Democratic Party nominee.

My daughter is a DC lawyer who also raises $$$ for the DNC. She tells me DNC is aware of all dates in all states and they will file on time in every state.

[Cha]

18. TY & your daughter!!

[PortTack]

26. ☝️☝️☝️👏👏👏

[catbyte]

19. Well, to be honest, it's not like Alabama is in play anyway, but it is dirty pool. I'm glad the DNC is aware

and acting to stave off this attempted "legal coup." They'll do anything to try to install their Dear Leader as President for Life.

[TexasDem69]

27. How os this "dirty pool"?

Sounds like a screwup by the party.

[W_HAMILTON]

49. How the fuck is it not?

The law has been on the books since the 1970s.

I take it you haven't looked at recent DNC convention dates -- or RNC ones, for that matter. Spoiler alert: there have been plenty that occurred past this date, which Alabama Republicans are only now selectively enforcing to try and deny Joe Biden and Kamala Harris their rightful place on the ballot.

It's just more Republican ratfucking and we have a whole cadre of people here blaming DEMOCRATS for it?

Ridiculous.

[TexasDem69]

50. So just because it wasn't enforced previously

It’s no longer enforceable? That’s nonsense.

[JohnSJ]

30. The problem is that there are House seats that are in play

[Cha]

45. TY!!

[jmowreader]

20. Easy fix

The last two events are on June 8 - the Guam and Virgin Islands contests.

On June 11, have one representative from each state and territory convene in New York City and have the Official Democratic Convention. This will lock President Biden into the ballot on all fifty states. The big one in Chicago will then be a ceremonial affair.

[AverageOldGuy]

37. You nailed it

Ballotpedia has a calendar that lays out Democratic presidential primaries through June 8, Guam, which is the last. When that one ends Biden will have more than enough pledged delegates to be the candidate after which the Party will certify him in all states.

[jgmiller]

28. Is it a jerk move yes but...

It's not like they passed these laws last week just to mess with Biden. They are laws that exist and they are just following them, this is on the DNC to fix. It's not a conspiracy against Biden.

[JohnSJ]

29. Just certify the Democratic nominee before the Convention through zoom, and follow it through

with the Convention.

Don't get involved in a pissing contest with these racist, sexist, anti-American thugs

[CincyDem]

32. In a way, I think it's good to deal with all this chit now.

I can imagine that, in the highly unlikely event Biden were to win AL or the more likely (but still a stretch) event Biden wins OH...The fact that the state let him on the ballot after their legal deadline...as has been done in some states for decades...that move would invite lawsuits galore and our "Letter of the Law as long as it helps Trump SCOTUS" could easily see their way to taking their time...putting the "Jan6" date in 2025 at risk.

Deal with this chit now vs. defending against trump's insane legal machine after he loses in november.

[ZonkerHarris]

35. Republican fuckwads cant win without cheating.

[Autumn]

56. What is the Democratic party doing about this?

[Mountainguy]

58. The convention is not contested

Just have a zoom call in early August to confirm the nomination officially and send in the paperwork. Doesn't affect the convention which is more of a campaign ad than an actual nominating mechanism anyway.