Hear that pregnant ladies? Having to "get a bus ticket" to another state to see a gynecologist "isn't the worst thing in

[riversedge]

Some days I can't believe what I hear=see. It is so painful.

Hear that pregnant ladies? Having to “get a bus ticket” to another state to see a gynecologist “isn’t the worst thing in the world” if you’re a white guy yammering on Fox.

Link to tweet

[TheRealNorth]

1. Yeah

Until they take that option away as well.

[Freethinker65]

2. Does this asshole have a daughter or ANY female relatives or friends? Fucking clueless.

[Demobrat]

10. Sure he does. And he doesn't want them getting uppity.

[SunSeeker]

17. Their relatives and girlfriends can afford to hop on a plane for an abortion.

I'm sure this tool would even pay for it, like Trump offered to do with Marla. Alas, she had other plans.

[getagrip_already]

51. Actually, he may have enough money for a concierge abortion

Right in his doctor's office. Sure, it's technically illegal, but nobody will ever know it was an abortion. All the paperwork will say it was a cosmetic surgery procedure.

The nurse will be paid well enough she/he will never say a word.

Just like everything else the rich have access to that nobody else does.

[Wednesdays]

25. Most likely.

And he most likely has enough money for first class plane tickets, let alone bus fare. And his blessing, as long as it's kept quiet.

[Cha]

3. GD ol men telling Women it ain't so bad. Fuck do they know?!!

[LiberalFighter]

4. Based on Wikipedia it doesn't look like he has any children.

He's been married three times. The first only about a year. The second can't determined except there is a five difference in marriage time between second and third.

So how would he know the needs of a pregnant woman or one wanting to get pregnant?

[NonPC]

32. Thank Goodness He Doesn't Have Children

Kudlow has always been a pompous a$$, we don't need any of his spawn in our society.

[Hekate]

5. Sure. My mom who had no cash and had two toddlers and was bleeding out from a miscarriage...

…could have just caught that old Greyhound bus downtown , easy peasy.

Thank God this was 1950, when apparently the standard of care was to hustle her through the ER into Surgery where they saved both her life and her future ability to have my sister and youngest brother.

FOX is a pile of loathsome cockroaches.

[FakeNoose]

19. Your mom was lucky to be in one of the "good" states

I grew up in the 50's and I never heard the word "abortion." It was called a "D and C" in those days, and everyone understood it was a necessary medical procedure. Politics never entered into the discussion.

[NanaCat]

36. My mum was in those operating rooms in the 60s

They did indeed call them D&Cs, but she can assure you that a good number of them were not necessary. Not if Daddy had enough money.

[FakeNoose]

38. OK if you say so

But there were a lot of rapes that never got reported. I think it was almost standard for the hospital to do a D&C if there were any chance that the girl could get PG. Especially if the girl was underage.

[Hekate]

39. The treatment for miscarriage was a D&C. I never, ever heard it called an abortion...

My experience agrees with yours. As far as I could tell, the two procedures were distinct in non-medical peoples’ minds. One was medically necessary, and one was illegal and likely to lead to sepsis, death, or arrest. Only much later did I hear that medical literature actually referred to miscarriages as “spontaneous abortions,” because by that they meant the emptying of the uterus regardless of Nature or human method.

I grew up in 2 states, California and Hawai’i, and in common with the times, abortion was illegal except to save the life and health of the mother, or in case of rape or incest. I know that California was fairly rigorous in raiding and prosecuting illegal abortionists, but I only know this because the Los Angeles Times did a well researched article after Dobbs — the reporter got access to a forgotten basement trove of records in the LAPD archives.

I knew that Dobbs was not “taking us back to 1950,” but much further. Today’s debacle with Arizona’s Territorial laws from 1864 really brings it home. Given that Alito of the SCOTUS had no difficulty with citing in Dobbs a medieval cleric from the 12th century and a British jurist who sentenced witches in the 16th century, I can’t see him choking at Arizona 1864 Territorial Laws.

[NickB79]

6. From the same party that wants border checkpoints for pregnant women

And a nationwide ban so that bus can't go to ANY state.

[Lars39]

7. And that's why I think these older

pasty white guys should have to go septic instead of getting their much needed TURP.

[Ms. Toad]

8. The quote on the heading and tweet is not supported by the video.

What the video actually says is still bad, but it is significantly different to have to travel repeatedly out of state for prenatal appointments with your gynecologists than it is to have to travel once for an abortion.

[Celerity]

31. Beat me to it. And judging from the comments, some never watched the video.

Lack of due diligence on DU is a phenomenon that is more than a bit dispiriting.

[Ms. Toad]

45. Only some?

I get really tired of knee-jerk reactions to headlines, without even bothering to check to see of the headline accurately describes the article, or video, or statement someone made, etc.

[kcr]

47. Come on

Do you really think this guy draws the line there and would be outraged at women having to travel for an abortion because no one practices near them anymore? Or when they have a complication their doctor refuses to treat? Of course not. Abortion bans affect way more than just abortion, and this asshole does not care. The quote is 100% dead on.

[Ms. Toad]

50. The headline isn't about what he thinks or might support

It is about what he SAID.

He SAID nothing about care other than abortions.

Putting words in someone's mouth - especially when there is a very clear video of what they did say - and then ridiculing then for things they didn't actually say is not a good look. Nor is it particularly politically effective since it is so easily disproven.

[Fla Dem]

9. Jerks.

[marybourg]

11. He was referring to going out of state

for an abortion, not for repeated obstetric appointments. We’re being played by both sides.

[58Sunliner]

26. When you need an abortion medication to save your life from a ruptured placenta there is no safe bus.

When you are having a miscarriage, there is no bus. An ectopic pregnancy? You need to be transported out of state and it is risky, if you have the time.

[marybourg]

35. All that is a given . But the content of the

interview was mis-characterized in the story header. Separate issue from do we agree with the interviewee. We should be able to have reasonable confidence in the accuracy of headers. And not be manipulated.

[58Sunliner]

42. I understand your contention. It misses the issue by a mile.

[marybourg]

43. No, my issue, the journalistic one was as I stated it. The

substantive issue goes without saying to me, on this forum.

[kcr]

48. If all that is a given

then it was in no way mischaracterized. His belief that it's no big deal for women to have to travel because of an abortion ban means he thinks it's no big deal when they have to travel for a miscarriage.

[Silent3]

12. Some states are even making getting that bus ticket illegal, you dipshit n/t

[PatSeg]

13. What an idiot

And three white guys, who AREN'T doctors, sitting around discussing women's healthcare!

[angrychair]

14. Fist off

"bus"?!? What is this the 1980s? The last time I took bus like Greyhound anywhere was 1988.
More importantly though, fuck that guy and everyone like him. That is all.

[no_hypocrisy]

15. AZ women. Forget the bus ticket. Rent a moving van . . . .

to a Blue State.

[enigmania]

16. What a bunch

of smug lowlifes!

[Takket]

18. so says someone who would probably completely lose his shit on a starbucks employee if he was told they were out of

whipped cream, even though there is another Starbucks across the street.

[North Shore Chicago]

20. I am adopted child.

This country what it has turned into is my worst nightmare.

[Hekate]

44. I am very sorry that you take it as personally as that. In the 1950s I had a slew of adopted cousins...

…and friends in the neighborhood. I now know the source was very largely teenagers — white, because those were “adoptable” to the then-majority of the US population. It seemed quite normal to me. Now we can see that infertile couples had very few options available to them — artificial insemination might work, but aside from that, there was only adoption, and there were plenty of babies.

You must understand a few things about society at the time, and the part that shaming played in it. A girl (remember so many were teenagers) had few options if she became sexually active. If her boyfriend boasted to his friends, she was shamed by others as “easy” and a slut. Contraceptives were hard to obtain. Boys in my high school in the early 1960s could have purchased condoms, but in a town our size that would have meant his girlfriend would be shamed.

If she got pregnant, she was married off quick if she was old enough — and if her boyfriend was willing and his parents consented. I have 2 cousins older than me who got married at the age of 17. We lived in a different faraway state, so nothing was ever said by my mother except they sure were awfully young — only decades later did I realize they were pregnant.

I had high school classmates in their mid teens who were shuffled out of sight, and their babies were taken away from them forever. Whether they wanted to or not. There really was nothing else they could do, given that they were under 21 and their parents had the say.

Even unmarried women in their 20s and up had to contend with the lack of a social safety net and the lack of career prospects that would support them — in their shame. In many states like my own, birth certificates were stamped “illegitimate,” marking mother and child forever.

Two things changed all that: in the 1960s The Pill became available to married women. Doctors often didn’t want to dispense The Pill to the unmarried or the under-21, so that was a barrier for several years longer, and college girls had to find the “right” doctor. But it surely gave a boost to the Sexual Revolution of the 1960s, since horny youngsters in college knew they didn’t necessarily need to get pregnant.

And then Roe vs Wade was passed in 1971, and the supply of “adoptable babies” just about dried up — something that, if you actually read Dobbs as I did, really pisses off Roberts and Alito. They refer to the former abundance of infants as a “product,” like farm-stock, as though girls owe it to society — and use terms like “out of wedlock,” a highly shaming term I had not heard in well over 40 years.

The thing about having access to contraception and abortion is that a woman can make up her mind to have that baby come into her life without compulsion one way or the other. It’s her choice. I have friends and relatives whose children are being raised by their mothers of their own free will.

I don’t know why you think a world in which abortion is legal is a nightmare. You are alive and I hope your family is loving. Nobody aborted you. You are not missing millions of siblings. Fertilized eggs are not infants. Zygotes are not babies. Untold numbers never make it past the first month or two and are flushed away by Mother Nature in the menses.

The vast majority of abortions take place not just before viability but before the fetus is even a fetus. The majority of the rest of abortions are for good medical reasons, like the death of a fetus in utero or an incomplete miscarriage, or fetal defects that are both incompatible with its life and dangerous to its mother — all of which can kill the mother good and dead if not attended to medically. Pregnancy and childbirth are both dangerous, and women can and do die.

Nobody is setting out to “kill babies.”

Take it all personally if you want to — but maternal death is a real thing, and someone risked her actual life to give birth to you.

Be at peace.

[barbaraann]

53. My worst nightmare will happen if Trump is reelected.

I think it will be far worse than what we have now.

[North Shore Chicago]

55. K n R

[irisblue]

21. Who is this guy please? I cannot see a name.on my phone. Thanks

OK on second with saw it.

[barbtries]

22. white republican man

hates women.

republicans hate women.

i hate republicans.

the arrogance and dismissal toward the health needs of women is disgusting.

[Hope22]

23. There is a phrase that I have never used before that I find myself uttering on a daily basis......

I’m not proud of it but it goes like this….He should go straight to hell!

[patphil]

24. Being threatened with prison for getting an abortion probably is the worst thing these woman will have to endure.

Of course this FOX moron doesn't see it that way. He can impregnate, but not carry.
It's easy to not care when it's not you.
How would he feel if it was his wife, sister, or daughter who was in that position?

[NanaCat]

37. Do you think he cares about it, other than the potential

Inconvenience the woman is subjecting him to?

[Goodheart]

27. Cheeses fucking cripes

Is that guy for real?

[IcyPeas]

28. You only have to go once in your lifetime he says ? ? ?

Unless i heard wrong toward the end of the 37 second clip...

Does he think you only go to a gynecologist to have an abortion ???

So it's not a big deal if you have to go out of state once in your lifetime to see a gynecologist.

Once again these men don't understand basic female healthcare.

[Ms. Toad]

46. You heard it correctly,

But missed the point. The tweeter appears to have made up the comment about taking a bus to see a gynecologist. The clip itself was a discussion about abortion, not gynecological care.

[LuckyCharms]

29. That fucker should be made to travel 500 miles to get his Viagra.

After all, it's not the worse thing.

Fucker.

Also, I'm of the opinion that non-medical men should have NO say about a woman's health. NONE.

[niyad]

30. May they, and their enablers, receive everything they deserve.

Time for a few more poppets.

[Orrex]

33. But if he had to drive an extra five miles to buy a gun, he'd lose his flaccid shit.

[IronLionZion]

34. Punching him in the face is not the worst thing in the world.

Knowing what's "not so bad" for others has cost people elections many times. Sure it's not "the worst thing in the world" because he doesn't have to do it. He should take a bus out of state for his next doctor's appointment and miss getting paid for those days.

[GenThePerservering]

40. I wish people wouldn't call us "ladies"

We're WOMEN - yes, that scary strong word. Not little powderpuff 'ladies'.

Women.

"Ladies" robs us of our agency, 'act like a lady' means know your place and plays right into the hands of this kind of rhetoric.

WOMEN. Own it.

[Hugin]

41. For only having 1/24,105,600th of the active role in bringing a child into this world.

These guys sure have a lot of opinions on how it's to be done and when.

[hatrack]

49. Sorry, Cokehead Larry's statement, or was it Studmuffin J. Bowlcut?

Something's wrong with the sound on my computer . . . .

[Autumn]

52. How thoughtful of them. Next they will protect us ladies from voting.

[tulipsandroses]

54. Hey Dumbass. Yes it could be the worst thing in the world

One of my most vivid memories of childhood, is my aunt’s miscarriage. I was about 10 yrs old. I remember all the blood in the bathroom, all over the house.
I was scared she was going to die. Thankfully she got the care she needed. She didn’t have to get on a bus to go far away and risk deteriorating. Women will die if republicans have their way. It will be the worst thing in the world for them and their families.