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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forums**Donald Trump's Hopes of Black Support Stung by New Poll** (Pew Research Center)
Ahead of this vote, some reports and polls have suggested there has been racial realignment, with Black voters, who traditionally support the Democratic Party opting to vote for the Republicans instead.
But new research from Pew Research Center suggests otherwise. A survey shows 83 percent of Black voters favor the Democratic Party, a three percent decline from 1994 when 86 percent aligned in this way.
On the other hand, 12 percent support the Republican Party. This marks a one percent decline from 1994 when 13 percent supported the party.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/donald-trump-s-hopes-of-black-support-stung-by-new-poll/ar-BB1locSO?ocid=msedgntp&pc=LSJS&cvid=085a5951b44b412caa55908c60a93c40&ei=76
Guess the condescending "gold sneaker campaign" and attempts to garner the "mug shot sympathy vote" aren't working...
rurallib
(64,685 posts)Mar 1, 1999 A black man voting for the Republicans makes about as much sense as a chicken voting for Colonel Sanders. J.C. Watts Sr., the father of ..
BaronChocula
(4,534 posts)He was so smitten by the admiration of all those white nationalist Sooner boosters at Oklahoma that he drank their Kool-Aid.
Fiendish Thingy
(23,132 posts)An impressive sample size of 10,000 respondents, including 1200 Black respondents (MOE +/- 3.9% - pretty good for a polling subgroup)
Lovie777
(22,937 posts)J.C. Watts is a Republican.
hlthe2b
(113,872 posts)LiberalFighter
(53,544 posts)yardwork
(69,352 posts)Btw, I think the news source inaccurately quoted Pew on the percent of decline.
Jrose
(1,531 posts)Last edited Thu Apr 11, 2024, 07:39 AM - Edit history (1)
...and the many millions of Americans who want to keep our democracy strong...will join forces and reelect Biden!
whathehell
(30,460 posts)Correction: Not "non- Christians" -- non- Right Wing Christians. Mainstream Christianity is still the predominate religion in this country, and it includes many, if not most, of the groups you've listed. That said, it might be best to stop conflating the two.
Jrose
(1,531 posts)that are the most attacked and alienated by maga-publicans.
shrike3
(5,370 posts)It seems like every election cycle I hear this -- blacks voters are turning Republican -- and it never happens. Sheesh. Media and GOP never learn.
Sky Jewels
(9,148 posts)They love them some Bad News for Dems! narratives.
calimary
(89,951 posts)Dear God are they dealt for a horse race! They think its good for ratings. For me, its only good for an Alka Seltzer.
LiberalFighter
(53,544 posts)markodochartaigh
(5,536 posts)Do stations even still have static?
SoFlaBro
(3,780 posts)twodogsbarking
(18,720 posts)niyad
(132,271 posts)cockroach (KO's latest name for TRAITOR**) certainly helped.
twodogsbarking
(18,720 posts)niyad
(132,271 posts)the mind went lonnnnnnnng ago!
hlthe2b
(113,872 posts)Ben Carson is alive.
twodogsbarking
(18,720 posts)hlthe2b
(113,872 posts)twodogsbarking
(18,720 posts)Aristus
(72,135 posts)Wherever that is...
A pizza parlor guy who openly mocks the importance of global diplomacy has no business being anywhere near the White House.
Fortunately, he took himself out of the running, thereby doing global diplomacy, and the globe itself, a huge favor.
0rganism
(25,632 posts)His destiny walked the wide line between epic Greek tragedy and pathetic ass-kissing irony.

Mr. Evil
(3,457 posts)underpants
(196,420 posts)Cha
(318,900 posts)Thanks!
All Mixed Up
(597 posts)1. Democrats took a hit in 1994 after having the presidency for two-years (and would get hammered in November's midterms that year).
2. At least since 2000, Democrats have historically had a larger advantage among Black voters than they did in the 1990s. In 1992, Clinton won 83% of the Black vote. In 2020, Biden won 87%. So, he saw a four-point increase in his totals. In 1996, Clinton won 84% of Blacks - so, still less than what Biden saw in 2020.
Knowing all that, let's take a look at the 2020 survey.
So, Republicans held a 53-42 edge among white voters in 2020. Now? 56-41.
That's not good.
Democrats have lost one-point and Republicans have improved by three-points. That's a four-point swing.
Of course, this is a poll and not actual voters. In 2020, though, Biden won 41% of white voters and Trump 58%.
So, Biden is hitting about the number his total was in 2020's actual votes, while Trump is doing two-points worse than he did in 2020.
Except the polling (done in July, 2020 instead of April) was off from the actual 2020 numbers. Trump did much better (+17) in actual votes than he did in the 2020 Pew poll (margin +11).
Among Black voters, the poll in 2020 had Democrats winning 83% and Republicans 10%.
Now? It's 83 to 12.
So, Republicans have actually seen a two-point increase here.
How does that compare to the 2020 race?
Well I already pointed out that Biden won 87% of Black voters - and Trump won 12%.
Biden did better (+75) in actual votes than he did in the 2020 Pew poll (margin +71).
With Hispanics, the poll in 2020 had Democrats winning 63% of and Republicans 29%.
Now? 61% to 35%.
Republicans have made gains here. Democrats lost two-points off their 2020 total and Republicans increased their total by six. That's a swing of eight-points. That's significant. That's the biggest difference of any of the demographics.
BUT in 2020, Biden won 65% of the Hispanic vote - Trump 32%.
So, Biden did worse (+33) in actual votes than he did in the 2020 Pew poll (+34) - but barely. It was only one-point off in the margins.
What does this mean? Democrats have lost support across the board. But it also could just be MOE fluctuation.
With that said, as close as 2020 was, if these losses hold, Biden is going to have a difficult time winning in November.
To summarize:
Democrats are doing four-points worse among white voters than in the 2020 poll.
Democrats are doing two-points worse among Black voters than in the 2020 poll.
Democrats are doing eight-points worse among Hispanic voters than in the 2020 poll.
Which I think probably balances out to the actual lead they see in the party identification overall (+1).
+1 ain't going to get it done.
If Biden wins the popular vote by one, he's likely losing reelection.
My final takeaway: these numbers don't show a dramatic shift but a shift nonetheless and that shift is very problematic unless it's corrected between now and November.
Qutzupalotl
(15,815 posts)to create fake AI-generated images of black people standing behind him.
Takket
(23,705 posts)What more to black people want??? Substance???????????????
malaise
(295,894 posts)when they see one. Only the lowest of the low African Americans will give him any time of day
Johnny2X2X
(24,179 posts)When he pardoned a few well known black people before the 2020 election, he thought that would be enough. People aren't stupid, they see how he villifies them constantly when talking about "inner cities". People know the code words Republicans use for them.