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edhopper

(37,521 posts)
Wed Apr 10, 2024, 10:26 PM Apr 2024

Trump says Democrats execute new born babies

And the Media says he is "shifting positions".

No outrage, no calling him out on a dangerous, hateful lie.

Just normalize the orange toad dick.

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FarPoint

(14,940 posts)
1. I often wonder why people here even post such inflammatory dribble...
Wed Apr 10, 2024, 10:31 PM
Apr 2024

45 says these thing because he wants to hurt us and have us talk about him...

I suggest maybe we can just blink and move on from his abuse....I don't want him to get my attention... he sure has not earned my attention or that of my peers and friends...that may just be me...I don't know.

msongs

(74,199 posts)
3. trump gets free publicity on dems oriented boards all the time. he must be happy about that nt
Wed Apr 10, 2024, 10:46 PM
Apr 2024

Celerity

(54,878 posts)
2. Why Donald Trump is repeating a smear about Democrats wanting to 'execute' babies
Wed Apr 10, 2024, 10:38 PM
Apr 2024
A familiar refrain takes on a new edge as Republicans face their first presidential election-year reckoning over reproductive rights

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/donald-trump-democrats-abortion-babies-execute-b2525250.html

Former President Donald Trump finally responded to criticism of his murky stance on reproductive rights on Monday and issued a video statement outlining abortion policy under a Trump second term. The four-minute address was posted to his Truth Social media platform and proclaimed that the GOP would remain fundamentally opposed to abortion rights under his leadership. “My view is now that we have abortion where everybody wanted it from a legal standpoint, the states will determine by vote or legislation or perhaps both and whatever they decide must be the law of the land,” said Mr Trump. He added: “Many states will be different, many will have a different number of weeks, or some will have more conservative than others and that’s what they will be. At the end of the day, this is all about the will of the people.”

In short: the former president would encourage states to set their own policies determining the extent of a woman’s right to an abortion — if it is recognised at all. Notably, Mr Trump did not say that he would reject legislation banning the practice after a certain point in the pregnancy at the national level, a key carve-out that lays the groundwork for a future rightward shift. And Mr Trump also repeated one of his favourite smears: the claim that Democrats want abortion to be legal up until the point of childbirth, and even after a baby is born — murder of a living person, as it’s more commonly known. It’s an egregious accusation that is not based in any real policy supported by a single elected Democrat in the country, and one that seems particularly alarmist given the fact that the incumbent Democratic president appears personally uncomfortable with even using the term “abortion” and has only pledged to go as far as passing legislation to restore the federal standard under Roe v Wade, which prohibited abortion bans from taking effect before the second month of pregnancy has ended.

“It must be remembered that the Democrats are the radical ones on this position because they support abortion up to and even beyond the ninth month. The concept of having an abortion in the later months and even execution after birth. And that's exactly what it is. The baby is born, the baby is executed after birth is unacceptable. And almost everyone agrees with that,” he said in his address Monday. Nevertheless, it’s a smear that Mr Trump and his allies on the far right, such as Texas Senator Ted Cruz, have repeated ad nauseum over the past several years. The goal appears to be to blunt the clear headwinds Democrats have enjoyed on the issue, where the party enjoys a clear advantage over Republicans. The GOP has suffered a series of embarrassing defeats waged over abortion-related ballot measures and in races where reproductive freedoms were made into a key election issue — Tudor Dixon’s defeat in key swing-state Michigan, for example. The 2023 sweep by Democrats in Virginia’s state legislature elections solidified the feeling that the right was facing a backlash from suburban women in particular.

Mr Trump first began spreading the lie in 2019, at the time still in the third year of his presidency and reeling from his loss of control in the House of Representatives in the midterms a year earlier. At the time, the former president pursued the line of attack against Ralph Northam, then the Democratic governor of Virginia. It appeared, in 2019, to have originated with the testimony of a Democratic member of the state legislature before a committee in January of that year; Kathy Tran told her colleagues that legislation she was proposing would allow a woman to have an abortion if deemed medically necessary to save her life while she was showing signs of labour. She later said that she misspoke, as an abortion would not be pursued in that circumstance. But the damage was done, and five years later the GOP is still attempting to convince voters that their political rivals want to murder children. Another crucial point in his address was a full-throated endorsement of the “availability” of fertility services including IVF; the Republican Party faced a political backlash recently when the practice was temporarily banned in Alabama.

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TexasBushwhacker

(21,289 posts)
4. In order for an "after birth" abortion to happen
Wed Apr 10, 2024, 10:58 PM
Apr 2024

you would have to find a doctor to do it. Of course, no doctor would! It's hard enough to find a doctor who will perform an abortion past 20 weeks!

keithbvadu2

(40,915 posts)
5. Republicans are in favor of killing living babies and have done so.
Thu Apr 11, 2024, 01:37 AM
Apr 2024

Republicans are in favor of killing living babies and have done so.

Pro-life to conservatives/republicans is a myth.

The supposed pro-lifers cared naught when the state of Texas (republican gov, republican Prez) deliberately killed living baby Sun Hudson against the mother's wishes because he was an inconvenience to the state.

It is not a matter of life to the supposed pro-lifers.

It is a matter of control.

LetMyPeopleVote

(182,047 posts)
6. Why the ugly Republican lie about Dems and infanticide matters
Thu Apr 11, 2024, 01:49 AM
Apr 2024

The problem isn’t just that Republicans are lying about Democrats and infanticide. It's also the fact that they feel like they need to lie.



https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/ugly-republican-lie-dems-infanticide-matters-rcna147195

Making matters worse, of course, is the fact that Trump’s line is being echoed by his partisan allies. The New Republic noted yesterday, for example:

North Carolina Representative Greg Murphy continued Tuesday to weave the yarn on Fox Business, telling host Maria Bartiromo that Democrats want to kill kids when they’re “coming out of the birth canal.”


The GOP congressman specifically said on the air, “[Abortion is] going to be a big issue every time, because you have folks really on both sides, really probably more Democrat, that want abortion literally when the child is coming out of the birth canal, always to force the issue.”



......But there’s a larger context to all of this. Republicans like Trump and Murphy seriously expect voters to believe that there are women, medical professionals, and Democratic policymakers who “want abortion literally when the child is coming out of the birth canal.” That’s insane. There are no such people.

This, in turn, helps set the stage for a debate over the future of reproductive rights in the United States, with the presumptive GOP nominee and his cohorts apparently convinced they need to peddle outrageous falsehoods, not just to smear their opponents, but also to distract from the fact that most Americans simply don’t agree with the Republican Party’s regressive position.

The problem, in other words, isn’t just that guys like Trump and Murphy are lying. The problem is made worse by the fact that they feel like they need to lie in order to prevent more election defeats.

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