O J Simpson dead at 76:

[Kingofalldems]

https://www.tmz.com/2024/04/11/oj-simpson-dead-dies-cancer/

[shelshaw]

1. Fuck him

[underpants]

39. 👍

Perfectly said

[Earth-shine]

2. I'll say something kind.

There was a time when people liked him.

Did he ever find the killer?

[lastlib]

22. probly every time he looked in a mirror......

I was amazed at how often the "real killer" hung out on golf courses.

[Cha]

61. Thank You.. Nothing "kind" about OJ killing Nicole Brown & Ron Goldman..

[RipVanWinkle]

3. Age 76. Died of cancer.

Just saw the breaking news on BBC.

[claudette]

4. Feel bad

For his kids.

[Emile]

5. His conscience kill him?

[obamanut2012]

6. Burn in Hell

[TheBlackAdder]

42. RIP O.J.

Rest In Purgatory O.J.

[Hassin Bin Sober]

7. Meh.

[Hugin]

8. Once again, DU beat the announcement in the MSM by minutes. n/t

[Sympthsical]

29. TMZ

They have sources ev-er-y-where (because they pay).

It's rare that a celebrity death gets reported in the MSM before TMZ has it splashed across their home page.

[Skittles]

9. double-murderer

my sympathy to his children

[617Blue]

10. Abuser. Murderer. Coward.

good riddance piece of fecal matter.

[eShirl]

11. Now he'll never find the real killer.

[lpbk2713]

12. I heard his hearse will be a white Ford Bronco

[SergeStorms]

20. A slow white Bronco.

And it wasn't John Elway.

[malaise]

13. He was a great athlete

But a flawed man.

[MorbidButterflyTat]

57. He was a hero

and set records as running back for the Bills.

ESPN did an excellent 30 for 30: "OJ, Made in America," a five part series, was absolutely heartbreaking. He grew up in poverty and racism, then became a star. It's all so damn tragic.

For anyone interested:

https://www.espn.com/espn/feature/story/_/id/16347689/made-america-five-part-30-30-documentary-event-espn

[malaise]

59. Correct

and thanks

[MorbidButterflyTat]

60. You're Welcome

[Goodheart]

14. Good riddance

[malaise]

15. You know it is huge when the networks break in

With this announcement and life story

[SergeStorms]

16. A good football player....

an absolutly horrible human being.

I didn't know he had cancer. Oh well.

The world will go on.

[Johnny2X2X]

17. The glove

That was the biggestr mistake a prosecutor has ever made in such a big case. The entire case was built on that glove, the prosecutor made it so. The prosecutor then created undeniable reasonable doubt by having him try it on and not having it fit. Now you and I know that gloves can shrink, or you can just flex your hand and a glove won't go on, but as a jurist, you just cannot know. The prosecutor is the one who made the glove such a big deal all trial, and then they showed you it might not even have been able to be worn by Simpson. They hear, "this is the killer's glove" like 100 times, and then saw that it might not have been possible that the glove would even fit the defendent. If it doesn't fit, you must acquit.

[SergeStorms]

21. Marcia Clark should have....

pointed out to the jury, that a blood- soaked glove - when dry - would shrink and be deformed to the point where it wouldn't fit anyone!

Why she didn't do that.....we'll never know.

Johnnie Cochran get away with "muder," figuratively speaking, with that little stunt.

Marcia Clark let a murderer get off by not recognizing that stunt.

[Johnny2X2X]

25. Wrong, it was worse than that

Cochrane wasn't the one who asked him to try on the glove. It was the prosecutors who did, Chris Darden to be specific. Just incredible incompetence.

They had to talk about it. No one on the prosecution's team thought to try a leather glove on as an example to see how it might play out in court? Anyone knows you can flex your hand to not mke a glove fit. All they had to do was thnk about that and they never would have asked OJ to try on the glove. Just pathetic.

I mean, go grab any glove and try to put it on while trying to not have it fit, it's easy to make it look like it doesn't fit. You have to wiggle your fingers and squirm to get into a leather glove.

[mnmoderatedem]

38. They did try to do damage control after the glove demonstration

They had a representative of the glove manufacturer testify that the glove had indeed shrunk, and they had OJ try on a regular pair of the same type gloves to demonstrate that they did in fact fit. Did not seem to have much affect on the jury though. Major mistake to have OJ try on the glove in the first place.

But I have a feeling he may have been acquitted anyway. Just my gut feeling regarding celebrity in the US.

[SergeStorms]

40. My bad.

I always thought it was Cochran who produced the whole, "if the glove doesn't fit, you must acquit," BS.

That and the LAPD screwing up the chain of evidence for the DNA samples really screwed up the whole trial.

Thanks for setting me straight.

[Johnny2X2X]

45. No worries

To this day, even though I am sure OJ killed them, I think if I was in that jury room, and I had to take into account only what was presented as evidence, I don't know that I could have convicted. Just going by what the prosecution said I would have to acquit. They told me in no uncertain terms that the glove was worn by the killer, if that glove did in fact not fit OJ, there's no way he could have been the killer. This was according to just what the prosecution said. I don't know if that glove fit OJ or not, the prosecution basically said it has to fit him or he's not the killer. So after it didn't fit him, then the prosecution had to come up with more witnesses to say the glove may have shrunk. I don't think it shrunk, I think OJ just flexxed his hand so he couldn't get it on, but there was reasonable doubt right there, and it ws established by the prosecution.

[SergeStorms]

49. I can still picture that glove....

in my mind. You could tell it had been soaked in blood. It was all stiff and sort of crumpled up. Leather gloves will do that if you just get them wet with water.

The prosecution didn't make any effort to straighten the glove out or make it supple again. They wanted the "shock value" of the jury seeing the dried blood all over it, I guess.

The LAPD and District Attorney really blew the entire case. Then there was Mark Furman. He was another straw that broke the camel's back. Any one of those things alone probably would have been enough to get the jury to
acquit. Put them all together......no chance at all of a guilty verdict.

[Disaffected]

23. It was a huge prosecution blunder alright.

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The biggest mistake was having him trying to put on the glove when he also had surgical gloves on (makes it much more difficult to pull the glove on even if it would normally not be a very tight fit).

I would disagree though that the entire case was built on the glove. There was also conclusive DNA evidence although the importance of that seems to have escaped the members of the jury based on after-trial interviews (eg. "So what if there was DNA found at the scene - there's DNA all over the place" and, "I felt the DNA expert was talking down to us so I didn't pay attention to her testimony" ).

[Johnny2X2X]

31. Yeah

Either way, this was a driving glove, the type of glove that you have to wriggle your hand into to get on and then probably have to take time to pull the loose spots between the fingers to make sure your fingers are all the way into it. And this was a former professional athlete who made his living holding onto a football, you don't think that person had big and really muscular hands?

I have big and strong hands, it takes me a minute to get into work gloves before I do yard work. If I want to make it look like they won't even go over the palm of my hand all I have to do is flex. To not know all of this was complete idiocy. The defense barely had to do anything to get an acquital after the prosecutors torpedoed their entire case with that glove stunt. It was not needed, they had a strong case, what if the glove had fit easily, thenwhat? Would their case be any stronger? All it could do was hurt their case.

I can imagine the jurors talking, "Well, the prosecutor wouldn't shut up about that glove for all these weeks, all we heard about was the glove, the glove, the glove. We know for a fact the murderer wore that glove if we believe the prosecutors at all. Is anyone here sure that OJ could get into that glove? If not, then I don't see how we can know for sure he's the murdere since the prosecutor was so adament the murdere wore those gloves. Everything else is moot."

[Spazito]

30. I would add that using Mark Fuhrman, the racist detective...

as a key witness and the one who found the glove, was also a big mistake because the prosecution didn't bring up his racism and the tape in his initial questioning and, not doing that, gave the defense the opportunity to raise it making Fuhrman's testimony no longer credible.

[whopis01]

35. When he was asked if he falsified reports of planted evidence in the case he plead the fifth.

And the jurors got to hear tapes of him using the n-word talking about where black people should and should not live.

Reasonable doubt is not very hard to achieve when you have someone like that.

[Spazito]

37. Yes, I had no doubt at the time that he was guilty...

but wasn't surprised when he was acquitted due to the egregious errors on the part of the prosecution and the behavior of Judge Ito.

[Gidney N Cloyd]

43. I think the expression back then was "They tried to frame a guilty man."

[Spazito]

46. I hadn't heard that expression but...

given everything that happened during the trial, it has a certain ring to it.

[whopis01]

47. That is a really good way of putting it. n/t

[Luz]

18. Well, he lived 41 more years than he allowed Nicole.

Good riddance to bad trash.

[Ontheboundry]

19. One of the few things Dems and repugs agree on

That this man deserves to burn

[Ontheboundry]

32. You know you are a bad person

When I quick look at foxs comments on this look the same.as.DU comments. Like, you are loathed universally by everyone. Enjoy the heat OJ

[UTUSN]

24. Insert his name here:

[Duncanpup]

26. Bury him with the gloves on.

[Takket]

27. .

🥳

[Botany]

28. Good

He is one person I would be delighted never to hear or read about again. The stats had him as one
in 55 billion as not being involved in the murders which meant if all the planets from Mercury out to
Pluto all had the population of earth and all those people came to L.A. on the night of the twin killings
only one person named O.J. could have done it.

Btw Trump is in a large part responsible for the 14 million dead from C-19.

[PCIntern]

33. Wow.

One of the few times in my lifetime wherein nearly EVERYONE was talking about the same thing at the same time.

He’s gone. Poof. Just like that.

[meadowlander]

52. I was in a lecture at university when the verdict came out and someone literally burst into the lecture hall

and interrupted it to yell "OJ was acquitted" like they were announcing "Japan just bombed Pearl Harbor".

People didn't have smart phones at the time so most of the class ran out to go back to their dorms to read about it online.

[WarGamer]

34. The ultimate dichotomy...

One of the most talented NFL RB's in history... ran with a smoothness and speed nearly unmatched...

And at the same time, obviously capable of beastly acts... probably killing 2 human beings in a fit of rage.

[jalan48]

50. I saw him play in college. He was the best player on the field by far.

[RANDYWILDMAN]

36. still owes 33 million

to the Brown and goldman estates....do we need to say anymore

[DET]

41. He appears to have died of prostate cancer.

Diagnosed two months ago. He was undergoing chemo and in hospice at the time of his death. He must have had stage four cancer, but it wouldn’t have killed him that quickly unless it went to his brain or a vital organ. I guess it’s also possible that he was so debilitated that complications of chemo took him out. I won’t celebrate his demise, but I won’t mourn it either.

[H2O Man]

44. I hope he is okay!

I mean, he could really run with the ball. Tough guy, who beat up women. When he was doing massive quantities of cocaine, his temper got the better of him, and he slaughtered two innocent human beings in one of the most brutal crimes of that era. But he was great in those television commercials, and was found "not guilty" by a jury that ignored all the evidence.

[meadowlander]

53. He had a kind of funny cameo in the Naked Gun as well.

That's the best I can do...

[H2O Man]

55. Exactly!

And, at least so far as we know, he didn't butcher anyone on the set. Surely that counts for something.

[LeftInTX]

58. He appeared in a Dragnet episode. Role was uncredited. He was a college student at the time.

Played a recruit.

[LeftInTX]

48. Bye..Case closed for good!

Shut up TV!!!...I said the case is closed for good..
Don't wanna here anymore about it!!

[doc03]

51. Who is going to continue the search for the real killer?

[LonePirate]

54. We have been cheated out of a deathbed confession.

[Kingofalldems]

56. His family was there so he may have confessed.

Probably not though.

[Xolodno]

62. Looking back, its easy to see that he was probably guilty.

However....

1. DNA evidence was still a bit "new" and most people didn't understand it.

2. The police had a bit of a "reputation" and not in a good way.

3. The police investigation seemed to be haphazard.

4. The prosecution wasn't on the same page at times and focused on the wrong things.

5. The gloves, talk about a blunder. Cochran was probably doing a jig afterwards.

6. Furman, another major blunder. But to be honest, I wouldn't be surprised if the defense called him in as a hostile witness. His involvement and previous encounters put a stain on everything.

7. Sequestering the Jury for that long, at that point, whatever the majority was, everyone would have just changed their votes to it.

8. Strong possibility of an accomplice. An arthritic person overpowering two people with only a single cut on his hand, no bruises or any other wounds, etc.

9. Not securing key witnesses ahead of time and then seeing them pop up on a talk show, rendering them unusable.

10. Many other blunders by the prosecution.

I honestly don't see how they could have gotten a conviction.