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LetMyPeopleVote

(173,911 posts)
Thu Apr 11, 2024, 08:15 PM Apr 2024

Trump seems to think he can badger Jewish voters into backing him

Donald Trump seems to believe he's entitled to greater support from Jewish voters. The more they disagree, the more he feels justified in lashing out.



https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/trump-seems-think-can-badger-jewish-voters-backing-rcna147425

Revisiting our earlier coverage, Donald Trump seems to believe that he took a series of steps he considered pro-Israel, with the expectation that he’d receive an electoral reward from Jewish voters. When they largely stuck with Democrats anyway, Trump deemed them ungrateful.

This attitude continues to produce ugly results. Last summer, for example, the Republican used his social media platform to share a missive that accused “liberal Jews” of voting to “destroy” America and Israel. Last month, as NBC News reported, Trump went further, invoking a dual loyalty trope by claiming that Jewish voters who support Democrats “hate Israel.”.....

A day later, as a New York Times report noted, he kept the offensive going.

Former President Donald J. Trump once again criticized Jews who back Democratic candidates on Wednesday, saying that “any Jewish person that votes for a Democrat or votes for Biden should have their head examined.”


The Republican went on to insist that Biden, who’s faced fierce criticisms for his support of Israel, has “totally abandoned Israel.”

Stepping back, Trump seems convinced that if he simply badgers Jewish voters enough, maybe they’ll change their minds and support his candidacy......

The more Jews back Biden, the more the former president feels justified lashing out at those who’ve failed to meet his expectations. If Trump believes this will convince Jewish voters to change their political views, he’s likely to be disappointed.

I admit that I am amused when TFG attacks Jewish voters for not supporting him
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Trump seems to think he can badger Jewish voters into backing him (Original Post) LetMyPeopleVote Apr 2024 OP
Good luck with that senseandsensibility Apr 2024 #1
Many Jews can see past the fascade. no_hypocrisy Apr 2024 #2
MOST! elleng Apr 2024 #5
I humbly stand corrected. Most. no_hypocrisy Apr 2024 #6
Thanks. elleng Apr 2024 #7
The fact that a large majority of Jews do not buy what TFG is selling is what pisses TFG off LetMyPeopleVote Apr 2024 #10
'a large majority of Jews do not buy what TFG is selling' elleng Apr 2024 #11
This is correct. Trump doesn't care about Jews, nor B.See Apr 2024 #13
Texan evangelicals are presently shipping red calves to Israel to hasten no_hypocrisy Apr 2024 #14
Jews, blacks, Christians, women, men, all are all supposed to vote for him. keithbvadu2 Apr 2024 #3
FAT CHANCE! elleng Apr 2024 #4
TSF is a fooking idiot so there's that... Cha Apr 2024 #8
I can't stand to look at his Fucking face ANYMORE!! Cha Apr 2024 #9
DITTO! elleng Apr 2024 #12
I agree LetMyPeopleVote Apr 2024 #15
Excellent! TY LMPV!! Cha Apr 2024 #16
TFG is back attacking all Jews who do not support him LetMyPeopleVote May 2024 #17

no_hypocrisy

(54,047 posts)
2. Many Jews can see past the fascade.
Thu Apr 11, 2024, 08:30 PM
Apr 2024

If Trump is elected, Project 2025 goes into effect.

Christian Nationalists don't have a place for Jews in their new world order.

Judeo-Christianity will be minus one.

You think antisemitism is bad now, wait to see how it gets worse after Trump returns.

LetMyPeopleVote

(173,911 posts)
10. The fact that a large majority of Jews do not buy what TFG is selling is what pisses TFG off
Fri Apr 12, 2024, 01:07 AM
Apr 2024

Last edited Sat Feb 22, 2025, 02:31 PM - Edit history (2)

TFG thinks that if TFG makes his evangelical base happy, then Jews should also be happy. The support of Israel by TFG's evengelical base is based on their hope for an apocalypse or second coming.




Politics professor Elizabeth Oldmixon explained in an interview with Vox the strange thread of Christianity that fosters an apocalyptic vision the inspires much of the right-wing support for Israel.

“These are the folks who believe that there will be a millennium in the future, a golden age, where Christ reigns on Earth, [and] they believe that before Christ will return, there will be a tribulation where Christ defeats evil,” she said. “There will be natural disasters and wars, and perhaps an Antichrist, as the book of Revelations notes. Then at the end of that period, the people of the Mosaic covenant, including the Jews, will convert. Then after their conversion, the great millennium starts.”

She continued: “You have this group of people looking around for signs of the end time, and in the 20th century when Israel was founded, this was seen as a major sign. This was electrifying for that community because the gathering of all the Jews in exile to the Holy Land is a prerequisite for all of these events unfolding. So for the subset of evangelicals in the 20th century, support for Israel became a really, really important political position.”

And as evangelical Christianity grew into a central part of the GOP’s coalition, pro-Israel policies became cemented in the party’s ideology.

The alliance between the evangelicals and pro-Israeli Jews, though, is a peculiar partnership. The Christians enter into the bargain with the assumption that, when they reach their goal of the apocalypse, any Jews will either become Christians or go to hell. But their pro-Israel allies don’t seem to mind this much, perhaps because they don’t believe this version of the apocalypse will ever actually come to be — and as long as it is just a fantasy, their interests and those of evangelicals remain aligned.

American Jews and supporters of Israel are aware of the reason why these religious nut jobs are supporting Israel. Israel needs all of the help it can get and so Jews and Israel plays on and uses these religious nut jobs. TFG is confused by the fact that Jews do not share the goals of TFG's evangelical base and are not appreciative of TFG's efforts to appease the evangelical nut cases.

B.See

(7,593 posts)
13. This is correct. Trump doesn't care about Jews, nor
Fri Apr 12, 2024, 02:23 AM
Apr 2024

about Israel. Trump cares about TRUMP. Trump's allegiance was to Netanyahu, because Netanyahu is an authoritarian extremist who puts his own people in harm's way to empower himself. Like all authoritarians do, including Putin, including Hamas, including Trump, who told his followers Covid was a hoax.

If Trump really cared about Jews he wouldn't have called the Nazis in Charlottesville, "very fine people."

He wouldn't sit shit faced silent on Nazis protesting in front of Disneyland, and parading through the streets of Americana,

He wouldn't have ignored encouraged, and/or given tacit approval to the kind of hate, venom, and bile that has empowered fascist ideology, and given rise to supremacist notions, acts of anti-Semitism, attacks on synagogues, and the like.

Most American Jews know who and WHAT he is.

(Edit: btw I've multiple links relating to my comments above but I'm not at my desktop)

no_hypocrisy

(54,047 posts)
14. Texan evangelicals are presently shipping red calves to Israel to hasten
Fri Apr 12, 2024, 05:22 AM
Apr 2024

The Second Coming by Jews building "the Third Temple" on Islamic Holy Site.

What do Texan red heifers have to do with Al-Aqsa and a Jewish temple?
Temple Movement’s plan to sacrifice the cattle seen as a step towards its goal of building the Third Temple over Al-Aqsa Mosque.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/4/9/what-do-texan-red-heifers-have-to-do-with-al-aqsa-and-a-jewish-temple#:~:text=Until%202022%2C%20when%20five%20red,as%20livestock%20at%20the%20time.

keithbvadu2

(40,915 posts)
3. Jews, blacks, Christians, women, men, all are all supposed to vote for him.
Thu Apr 11, 2024, 08:33 PM
Apr 2024

In his mind, he is the hero to all.

??? Not really.

In his mind, all are subservient to him.

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