YouGov Poll: 57% of Biden Supporters Say Israel Committing Genocide

[TheProle]

Q: Do you think that Israel is committing genocide against Palestinian civilians?

Biden Supporters:

57% Yes
15% No
27% Not Sure

Link to tweet

[Basic LA]

1. That seems surprisingly low.

But the 27% "Not Sure" sounds more Yes than No. So 84% is more like it. (Still low.)

[BannonsLiver]

24. His critics here and elsewhere shouldn't get their hopes up.

[Basic LA]

34. Hopes are nowhere near Up.

Not while critics of Netanyahu see that his crime of collective punishment continues unabated.

[BannonsLiver]

40. Good.

[EX500rider]

2. Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin rejects accusations Israel has committed genocide in Gaza

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/defense-secretary-lloyd-austin-rejects-accusations-israel-committed-ge-rcna147031

[EX500rider]

3. What's missing is intent

Lots of dead civilians is most wars.

The US killing almost 3 million Japanese was not genocide because as soon as they surrendered we stopped, if we were intent on genocide the bombing would have continued.

The Jews could have surrendered all they wanted to Hitler, he was still going to put them in boxcars to the death camps, THAT is genocide.

If Hamas surrendered the IDF would stop their assault on Gaza, therefore war, not genocide.

If just dead civilians equaled "genocide" then I guess all these recent wars were too?

[David__77]

7. How do the children of Gaza "surrender" to avoid being starved or otherwise killed?

[EX500rider]

10. As in every war in history it's the people fighting who have to surrender

In this case Hamas

[womanofthehills]

18. We've seen the videos of naked kneeling handcuffed men

Often dragged & kicked. No way is Hamas going to surrender.

[EX500rider]

20. I haven't seen any videos like that where are they

I have seen men stripped down to their underwear and handcuffed like most prisoners of war are when first taken prisoner, especially the type that might have suicide vests.

[brooklynite]

4. So polls are believable if you agree with the answers?

[Celerity]

8. You are one of those who have had a go at other posters who disagree with polls they do not like. (and I often agreed

with you on that).

But now, your statement:

So polls are believable if you agree with the answers?

seems to taking the stance of those other posters you took issue with before. (If I am misreading this, I am more than open to amending my take.)

Not only that, but your reply was directed at the OP, who took no personal editorial postion on the poll results (pro or con) in their OP.

They simply posted the data.

[brooklynite]

15. No, I'm just pointing out how many people glom onto a poll that'a positive after complaining about a pool that's negativ

I have a comfort level with polling in general, so I don't have to shift my opinion with the tide.

[Celerity]

16. well, I agree with that generally (there are some exceptions where a poll is clearly an outlier) but you seemed to be

aiming this at the OP, who did not take a side on the poll.

Thank you for the clarification, btw.

[muriel_volestrangler]

21. So, how many is that, then?

Your first reply did seem aimed at the OP. A total of 3 people had posted in the thread before you, which ain't exactly a significant sample.

[womanofthehills]

19. Interesting- all my Dem friends are horrified by the civilian deaths

But my republican friends are pro Israel. I will not talk politics with them. I live outside a small town of under 900 - where people have known each other for many yrs & are more tolerant of political differences.

A small percentage of my Dem friends say they will not vote for either candidate. It’s small - but it’s a percentage!

Biden needs to push for an end to the bombing or we could end up with Trump.

[David__77]

5. Sounds low

[BannonsLiver]

25. Disappointed?

[David__77]

30. No, it just sounds low.

[Celerity]

6. Only 15% said No, it is not committing genocide. That is a stunning number.

[Basic LA]

9. Didn't even think of that.

Wow

[Big Blue Marble]

12. I think it is a devastating number.

I certainly hope the Biden Administration is paying attention.
These are his supporters. Voters are paying attention.

[Celerity]

13. It is a lower number percentage-wise than the number (17%) of black males who voted Rethug in the 2022 House midterms.

Let that sink in.


https://edition.cnn.com/election/2022/exit-polls/national-results/house/0

[Bucky]

29. That's interesting. The gender gap is less pronounced in the white community

Democrats need to wake up men.

[Basic LA]

14. And we're all waiting.

[LiberalFighter]

11. I want Bibi gone.

[Autumn]

23. If we get dragged into Netanyahu's pissing contest with Iran there is a big possibility that

Biden will lose reelection. IMO Netanyahu is just like Trump and is pulling this shit to stay in power.

[lame54]

32. He may lose it if he refuses to stand up to him

Start by not selling him the weapons the will make the famine worse

Despite all the great things Biden has accomplished it's hard to talk him up as long as this thing is hanging over him

[Autumn]

37. Biden is my favorite President in my lifetime. He should have quit selling him weapons

and stepped back his support for Israel's war as soon as it became clear Netanyahu was committing genocide. That was easy to see early on.

[Abolishinist]

17. In 2024, Hammoud declined an invitation to meet with Biden campaign

officials prior to the 2024 United States presidential election, due to the Biden administration's stance on the Israel-Hamas war. Explaining his decision on X, Hammoud wrote "I will not entertain conversations about elections while we watch a live-streamed genocide backed by our government."

Then FU, vote for tRump, you worthless piece of ultimate reich-wing garbage.

[Autumn]

22. A lot of us older supporters are saying the same thing. We've seen this horror movie before.

I do wish Joe would stop with this unconditional support for everything Israel does. This crap that fucking Netanyahu is doing could very well cost Biden the election and put Trump back in, that is what Netanyahu wants. Trump will assist him in wiping out the Palestinian people.

[NickB79]

26. Russian psyops is paying off big time, I see

The same ones pushing claims of genocide are the ones calling President Biden "Genocide Joe."

They're actively trying to divide the Democratic party and reduce support for Biden (which improves Trump's odds), and it appears to be working.

[lame54]

33. It has nothing to do with...

Biden still providing them with weapons

[ananda]

27. I can see that pov.

I will vote for Biden all right,
but I deplore what Israel is
doing right now.

[Bucky]

28. Israel is not committing genocide. You don't poll the general public for legal definitions.

Israel is guilty of multiple war crimes, from weaponizing food and water to deliberately killing civilians as a distraction to effect a hostage rescue (that is, premeditated murder). What the IDF is doing in Gaza is ethnic cleansing. There needs to be prosecution of these atrocities.

But none of that is genocide. That is a term I'd like to see not watered down.

[gopiscrap]

31. I agree but I will still vote for him

a trump vote, or kennedy or other vote or sitting it out is not an option this time

[Ping Tung]

35. Starving civilians on purpose is a war crime and inhumane no matter who does it.

"Everybody else does it" is a piss poor excuse for depriving starving people food.

No cause justifies the deaths of innocent people.
Albert Camus

[TexasDem69]

36. 57% percent of individuals who clearly don't understand

The meaning of genocide. But the Biden administration does and that’s why it’s ignoring these meaningless polls, which are sampling individuals who can’t be bothered to do a bit of independent research.

[Elessar Zappa]

38. Good thing the Biden administration doesn't base foreign policy off a poll.

[Deep State Witch]

39. Ethnic Cleansing, Definitely

IDK what the difference between "genocide" and "ethnic cleansing" is - probably numbers of people killed. But ethnic cleansing of Gaza is definitely happening.

The second question is "are you going to vote against Biden because of it?" Frankly, I'm more concerned with what's happening in America than I am in Gaza.