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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsIf I were an agnostic or atheist I would be mad as hell-how dare Christian Nationalist force
me to practice by law their religion. How would they like it if they were forced to practice another religion by law. Jesus never forced anyone to religion and Christian Nationalist have the hutzpuh to demand their religion by force of law. It has all the stink of egotistical man and not a damn thing about Jesus
no_hypocrisy
(48,422 posts)The American Humanist Association, have been going to court for decades for your stated reason. It starts with relatively small skirmishes like Christian Only clubs in pubic schools or the Lord's Prayer at public Board of Education meetings. Our Establishment Clause (First Amendment) cases have been whittled down under the ruse of "accommodation".
Non-Protestant Christian religions (e.g., Judaism, Catholicism, Islam, the Bahai religion, Hinduism, etc.) have benefitted from these lawsuits as they remain minimally persecuted because of their faiths.
dameatball
(7,575 posts)Whatever those are.
leftyladyfrommo
(19,345 posts)ethics. They just make it up as they go along. Some of them think Christ was just too wimpy.
getagrip_already
(17,035 posts)Still, we aren't as bad as some south American countries.
I think it was Ecuador where before marriage, you were required to attend religious counciling sessions with a priest. It didn't matter what religion you were. I'm sure divorce was equally screwed up.
And we don't yet have a religious tax, like a school tax, that some countries have. Though I'm sure that's on some zealots radar.
All in all, the separation of church and state really did protect both. Unfortunately those walls are crumbling. And both are suffering the decay.
wnylib
(24,019 posts)couples who are getting married. They call it Pre Cana classes.
Colonial Puritans in New England used to have a religious tax that everyone had to pay. Connecticut continued it after the US was established until it was challenged in court.
I have no doubt that dominionists would establish both practices as law, and much more.
When I attended public school in PA in the 1950s and early 1960s, PA law required public school teachers to begin each day by reading to the class a chapter from the King James Bible. I didn't know anyone who was atheist or agnostic at that time (or who dared to admit it), but there were Catholics and a Jewish family in my school who resented it.
The law was overturned by a SCOTUS ruling when I was in junior high. The pastor of our church gave a sermon that supported the ruling in the name of religious freedom. One of the things that I remember him saying was that it is the responsibility of parents and their place of worship to teach religion to their kids, not the public schools.
keithbvadu2
(39,694 posts)Mike Pence - Freedom of religion
Traildogbob
(9,813 posts)If the churchs demand a seat at the table of our government to make laws for all and take away rights of us all, end tax exemption. Tax at 30 percent min, every Mormon church, every Catholic Church, especially every Olsteen mega church, every Lutheran Church, every single faction of church down to the double wide chapel for snake handling, tongue talking, tambourine beating congregations.
Use every single dime of that revenue to strengthen Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security, feeding the hungry, housing the homeless, caring for sick and elderly, and impoverished and abused child POST womb. And take in the stranger fleeing persecution and famine. And use a portion to go after the greedy lying thieves that worship cash over God.
As Jesus related straight from his dads mouth as what we are required to do to get to heaven.
That way all the Christians pouring cash into churchs go to do as Christ intended the money to not, not buy mansion and jets for preachers.
That way, Christian will get a better chance to paradise. With Mansions, streets of Gold, maybe even a few dozen virgins.
Then we may be able to call our selfs a Christian Nation.
And maybe a dime or two to take care of the planet he gave us instead of poisoning it.
Just a thought on Christian Nation requirements.
God bleeeessh, the United Staaaash.
Fla Dem
(25,514 posts)On June 14, 1954, President Dwight Eisenhower signed a bill to insert the phrase under God into the U.S. Pledge of Allegiance that children recited every morning in school. Previously, the pledgeoriginally written in 1892had contained no reference to religion.
The push to add under God to the pledge gained momentum during the second Red Scare, a period when U.S. politicians were keen to assert the moral superiority of U.S. capitalism over Soviet communism, which many conservatives regarded as godless.
Court cases about whether students should recite the pledge had already reached the U.S. Supreme Court in the 1940s, before under God was added. In the decades after the 1954 addition, there were numerous other lawsuits related to the pledge.
https://www.history.com/news/pledge-allegiance-under-god-schools
JanMichael
(25,160 posts)meow2u3
(24,899 posts)I'm Catholic and I'll be damned if those evangelical bible thumpers force me to practice their religion! Who died and make them morality police?
Midnight Writer
(22,856 posts)Whether it be in their government, their homes, their businesses, their social interactions, their go-to is to threaten, throw tantrums, use force to get their way.
GreenWave
(8,804 posts)aka-chmeee
(1,152 posts)What fun is it being unworthy, unclean and miserable if you can't make everyone that way?
Bundbuster
(4,018 posts)watching slimy theocratic nazis impose their stone age religious hatred on everyone in my country. Hell, the evangelical bastards who were finally shamed from further homo-hatred here are now exporting it to African and Asian countries, resulting in legislation such as Uganda's Kill The Gays and Ghana's Jail The Gays bills. To me, these bully coward control freaks are the lowest from of human life.