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babylonsister

(171,082 posts)
Sun Apr 14, 2024, 09:24 PM Apr 14

John Fetterman Shoots Down Biden's Approach on Iran

Wow. I'm not impressed.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/john-fetterman-shoots-down-bidens-approach-on-iran?ref=home

John Fetterman Shoots Down Biden’s Approach on Iran
PARTY OUTLIER
“It’s astonishing that we are not standing firmly with Israel,” the Democratic senator said on Sunday.
Corbin Bolies
Media Reporter
Published Apr. 14, 2024 11:06AM EDT
CNN


Sen. John Fetterman (D-PA) pushed back on Sunday against President Joe Biden’s reported warning to Benjamin Netanyahu that the U.S. would not join in an attack against Iran, repeating his monthslong refrain that the U.S. should unconditionally support Israel.

“It’s astonishing that we are not standing firmly with Israel,” Fetterman told CNN’s Jake Tapper on State of the Union. “There should never be any time for conditions—all of that when a nation can launch hundreds of drones towards Israel—and I’m not going to be talking about conditions ever.”

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Fetterman has emerged as one of a faction of elected Democrats who maintain total support for Israel despite the country’s bombardment of Gaza after the Oct. 7 massacre by Hamas. The war in Gaza has resulted in the deaths of more than 33,000 Palestinians, according to the Hamas-run Palestinian Ministry of Health. Still, Fetterman has remained unequivocal, even as his support among younger voters waned earlier this year.

Corbin Bolies

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John Fetterman Shoots Down Biden's Approach on Iran (Original Post) babylonsister Apr 14 OP
Fetterman Saw Anti-Semitism First-Hand Deep State Witch Apr 14 #1
Biden only said that he would not support an Israeli attack on Iran, wnylib Apr 14 #2
Mahalo for your well reasoned response! Cha Apr 14 #3
PS I like Sen Fetterman but Im Cha Apr 14 #4
Same here. Fetterman is a good Senator. wnylib Apr 14 #5
A response wouldn't necessarily be an attack. Groundhawg Apr 14 #7
Maybe you're content to sit by and let Israel* start WW3 without a peep from the U.S., Sen. Fetterman. 50 Shades Of Blue Apr 14 #6
beeb is just trying to stay out of prison. Joe is trying to keep the world in one piece. MOMFUDSKI Apr 14 #8
Netanyanu is a RWer who is aligned with his Israeli far right coalition wnylib Apr 14 #12
He's free to speak. Igel Apr 14 #14
OT a little bit.. I like the Cha Apr 14 #9
I fully assume this will be met with equal vitriol Cuthbert Allgood Apr 14 #10
I will take 'What is centrist selective outrage?' for 200 dollars, Alex. Celerity Apr 14 #13
When the "Squad" advocates for action that could readily lead to a wide regional war or even WWIII, I'll agree hlthe2b Apr 15 #16
I think he's wrong. We are standing firmly with Israel but ecstatic Apr 14 #11
Schumer needs to have a tough discussion with Fetterman. Period. hlthe2b Apr 15 #15
Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 15 #17
Not good John. . Emile Apr 15 #18
Biden knows what he's doing. He's more thnan capable of putting on a suit and tie Autumn Apr 15 #19

Deep State Witch

(10,450 posts)
1. Fetterman Saw Anti-Semitism First-Hand
Sun Apr 14, 2024, 09:30 PM
Apr 14

At the Tree of Life Synagogue massacre. He was Lt. Gov. at the time. Plus, Braddock isn't that far from Squirrel Hill. I wouldn't be surprised if he knew someone who died. My friend Sara lives in Braddock, and she lost her dentist in that attack.

wnylib

(21,602 posts)
2. Biden only said that he would not support an Israeli attack on Iran,
Sun Apr 14, 2024, 09:36 PM
Apr 14

which, at this point, is wise.

But, if Iran launches more attacks on Israel, I believe that Biden would back Israel's defense.

Biden is seeking a non military coalition response to Iran's attack. I'm guessing that he will push for economic sanctions.

wnylib

(21,602 posts)
5. Same here. Fetterman is a good Senator.
Sun Apr 14, 2024, 09:49 PM
Apr 14

But in these very serious times which parallel the 1930s domestically and internationally, we are fortunate to have Biden as the president. He has wisdom, experience, and knowledge. He is the 21st century FDR.

50 Shades Of Blue

(10,041 posts)
6. Maybe you're content to sit by and let Israel* start WW3 without a peep from the U.S., Sen. Fetterman.
Sun Apr 14, 2024, 09:50 PM
Apr 14

I'm glad President Biden is not.

*i.e. Netanyahu.

MOMFUDSKI

(5,633 posts)
8. beeb is just trying to stay out of prison. Joe is trying to keep the world in one piece.
Sun Apr 14, 2024, 09:57 PM
Apr 14

Fetterman should keep his opinions to himself at this tough time. He is just looking for attention.

wnylib

(21,602 posts)
12. Netanyanu is a RWer who is aligned with his Israeli far right coalition
Sun Apr 14, 2024, 10:16 PM
Apr 14

government. If I were an Israeli citizen, I would not vote for his Likkud party.

But, I do not think that his attack on Iranian National Guard commanders in Syria was motivated by a desire to keep out of prison. His actions prior to 10/7 regarding Israeli courts was an attempt to stay out of prison.

But the killing of the Iranian Guard commanders was in response to attacks on Israel by Hezbollah, which the Iranian Guard aids and supports as a proxy terrorist group.

Fetterman does not come across to me as a guy who makes public statements just to get attention. But I think that Biden has the wisdom and experience to handle the situation better.


Igel

(35,350 posts)
14. He's free to speak.
Sun Apr 14, 2024, 10:30 PM
Apr 14

It's his right in our democracy.

I support democracy.

If people can shout "Death to America," without impediment, Fetterman can also speak freely.

Cha

(297,598 posts)
9. OT a little bit.. I like the
Sun Apr 14, 2024, 09:59 PM
Apr 14

Way you bold some of the article . It’s helpful for the content and I can read it better.

Mahalo!🕯️🕊️💙🌊🇺🇸

Cuthbert Allgood

(4,964 posts)
10. I fully assume this will be met with equal vitriol
Sun Apr 14, 2024, 10:03 PM
Apr 14

from those that pile on "the squad" when they don't agree with Biden.

And by "fully assume," I mean I know that it won't be. For obvious reasons.

hlthe2b

(102,351 posts)
16. When the "Squad" advocates for action that could readily lead to a wide regional war or even WWIII, I'll agree
Mon Apr 15, 2024, 05:56 AM
Apr 15

I fully assume you know better.

I like Fetterman, but his knee-jerk responses are based on emotion, not thoughtful analysis. Schumer needs to take him aside.

ecstatic

(32,729 posts)
11. I think he's wrong. We are standing firmly with Israel but
Sun Apr 14, 2024, 10:12 PM
Apr 14

WE determine the time and place of entering into another war.

Didn't we help defend from all the hundreds incoming drones? How is that not standing firmly with Israel? 🙄

Standing firm doesn't mean we need to keep fucking escalating or seeking revenge. There are millions of lives at stake here.

All these people talking from the comfort of their homes about escalating things need to tone it the fuck down.

hlthe2b

(102,351 posts)
15. Schumer needs to have a tough discussion with Fetterman. Period.
Mon Apr 15, 2024, 05:43 AM
Apr 15

These "kneejerk" assumptions and utterances to the media are beyond wrong. There are 333 million of us in the US who don't want WWIII (not to mention the nearly 8 billion worldwide.

Be responsible, Fetterman. Stop with the kneejerk statements.

Response to hlthe2b (Reply #15)

Autumn

(45,120 posts)
19. Biden knows what he's doing. He's more thnan capable of putting on a suit and tie
Mon Apr 15, 2024, 08:50 AM
Apr 15

and taking care of Americans and Americas' business. .

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