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(319,067 posts)pfitz59
(12,703 posts)does he think they're big Lee supporters?
Kennah
(14,578 posts)wnylib
(26,009 posts)garbled 50 word pile up, but I didn't get any praise for the Confederacy out of it. He said that Gettysburg was the place that saved the Union.
I got the impression that he was trying to reverse gears on the well know MAGA support for the Confederacy in order to play to Northern sentiments.
Maybe he also wanted to change his image to someone who appreciates veterans instead of someone who ridicules them.
But saying that Gettysburg was "beautiful"? Really? The place where so many soldiers on both sides died bloody, horrible deaths?
ProudMNDemocrat
(20,897 posts)The the residents there could smell the stench of death for over a 5 mile radius. Men, cattle, horses in heat that was stifling. To this day, bullet fragments from that 1863 battle can be still be found. The tour bus stopped at the Minnesota Memorial to commemorate the sacrifice of the 1st Minnesota that were present there. I had mentioned to the guide that at our State Capitol in St. Paul in the Reception room, there is a massive painting depicting the charge of the 1st Minnesota at Gettysburg.
At the Cemetery where Abraham Lincoln stood to give his 2:18 speech on 19 November of 1863, there is a plaque at the Memorial to mark his spot with the address inscribed on it. The text of that famous Address...
Four score and seven years ago our fathers brought forth on this continent a new nation, conceived in liberty, and dedicated to the proposition that all men are created equal.
Now we are engaged in a great civil war, testing whether that nation, or any nation so conceived and so dedicated, can long endure. We are met on a great battlefield of that war. We have come to dedicate a portion of that field as a final resting place for those who here gave their lives that that nation might live.
It is altogether fitting and proper that we should do this. But in a larger sense we cannot dedicate, we cannot consecrate, we cannot hallow this ground. The brave men, living and dead, who struggled here have consecrated it, far above our poor power to add or detract. The world will little note, nor long remember, what we say here, but it can never forget what they did here. It is for us the living, rather, to be dedicated here to the unfinished work which they who fought here have thus far so nobly advanced.
It is rather for us to be here dedicated to the great task remaining before us,that from these honored dead we take increased devotion to that cause for which they gave the last full measure of devotion, that we here highly resolve that these dead shall not have died in vain, that this nation, under God, shall have a new birth of freedom, and that government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth.
TSF dishonors the Battle at Gettysburg with his word salad.
wnylib
(26,009 posts)a home town man who died at the Battle of Gettysburg.
wnylib
(26,009 posts)died at Gettysburg was a Union officer, not a Confederate.
TSExile
(3,363 posts)TSF REVELS in blood, violence, gore and hate. He has no concept of sacrifice or service. His complete lack of tact and awareness is sickening and frightening.
wnylib
(26,009 posts)not the one doing the actual fighting.
Something else just occurred to me as a possible translation of Trump speak at that rally. Perhaps he sees himself as Lee on a hill savior of the Confederate Union and is warning people not to fight him uphill because it will be a bloody, but beautiful battle.
Eyeball_Kid
(7,604 posts)Gettysburg... Lee... beautiful...
That's all he needs, and the bullshit artist is on a roll. IOW, he knows nothing about the Civil War and no one cares. It's all about filling up air time.
wnylib
(26,009 posts)is dumb like a fox. Whatever is still functioning in his brain continues to use inuendo and coded threats. He might have been identifying with Lee who fought to save the Confederate Union. "Don't fight me uphill" or there will be bloody consequences even if you win.
Could this be Trump's version of saying, "If you try to take me down, I will take down as many of you with me as I can"?
NanaCat
(2,332 posts)Family lore has it that when things got really bad, he claimed he'd been ankle-deep in blood, at least where he was fighting. He also said he didn't think he'd survive the hour, never mind the war. He was with (I think) the 69th PA, fighting near the 1st Minnesota, who took some of the heaviest losses on the Union side.
There was nothing beautiful about that battle.
ProudMNDemocrat
(20,897 posts)At Little Round Top, I had a conversation with a re-enactor who was portraying the Aide de Camp to General Grant. I was commenting on his uniform that his wife made out of a boiled wool, sewn all by hand. I mentioned that I took did Historical Clothing and had clients who were re-enactors like himself. He was impressed with my knowledge of fabrics, sewing techniques, etc. I also mentioned that I had been sewing since I was 9, Costuming for many years, and Minored in American History in College.
What I do and History go hand in hand. Mostly I do Tudor/Elizabethan clothing, but venture into the other eras as well.
YoshidaYui
(45,409 posts)edbermac
(16,447 posts)At the five second mark, he puts his hands up to his eyes like hes looking through binoculars.
bif
(26,995 posts)Look at how many people are posting about him looking sleepy on the GD page.
GenThePerservering
(3,367 posts)NJCher
(43,162 posts)In a red jacket gave a big ole yawn and the person to his right tried to nod off on his shoulder.
MLAA
(19,743 posts)Judi Lynn
(164,122 posts)

0rganism
(25,644 posts)So much simping for invading confederate general R. E. Lee
The two functioning braincells he has left are clearly fighting uphill. He should probably warn them about doing that.
DemocraticPatriot
(5,410 posts)at Gettysburg...
After routing the Union army on the first day and chasing them through the town,
General Lee's orders to General Ewell were
'go and take that hill (Cemetery hilll) if practicable',
which Ewell failed to attempt to do.
(That is where the death of General Stonewall Jackson after the previous battle in Virginia really cost them at Gettysburg--- Jackson would not have failed to make the assault upon the hills in the evening of the first day at Gettysburg-- but he was in his grave, and Ewell, who had been promoted to command a portion of Jackson's 2nd corps, was not so aggressive--- "failed to pursue", in military parlance...)
Well, maybe Drumph had some notion about the value of the high ground,
but that is the most he recalls about the movie 'Gettysburg'....
So, I think I know more about the battle of Gettysburg than a former so-called President of the United States, and more about US History in general than Donald Drumph--- as do most fifth graders....
For instance, there were no airports during the Revolutionary war, since the airplane was not yet a functional thing.....
JHB
(38,211 posts)...a phrase like "me boys" coming out of his "genteel" Virginia aristocrat mouth.
And the only times Trump has even been near Gettysburg is when his jet was flying in the general area.
As the great-great grandson of one of the soldiers repelling Pickett's Charge, I say it's about time (long past it, really) Bpbby Lee was put in his proper perspective as a general and man of his times, and not the overblown virtuous demigod of Lost Cause myth.
Freethinker65
(11,203 posts)usonian
(25,308 posts)That's got to be ...

SleeplessinSoCal
(10,412 posts)One rally at a time.
calimary
(90,017 posts)As he seems to be deteriorating before our very eyes, I wonder how far gone hell be as we get closer to November.
DFW
(60,182 posts)There are millions of Republicans who are thoroughly convinced that he is being perfectly coherent, and there are millions more who are thoroughly convinced that it is of no importance if he isnt.
malaise
(296,085 posts)MAD
ProudMNDemocrat
(20,897 posts)Last edited Mon Apr 15, 2024, 08:15 AM - Edit history (1)
I could only imagine the stench of death for miles over 3 very hot days on that battlefield as we toured in in 2011.
There is NOTHING beautiful about the stench of death.
TSF has NO idea what he is talking about.
lastlib
(28,260 posts)he's just puking words and phrases.
He has totally lost his mind.
lastlib
(28,260 posts)...at Valley Forge..........
(do I really need this?)
Emile
(42,284 posts)really said that, egads.
Niagara
(11,850 posts)They all look lost.
One person is yawning, two others appear to talking smack about dear leader, another person keeps looking down at his feet. It's all very strange.
Do us a solid and keep snorting the Adderall you piece of shit!!!!
DET
(2,499 posts)Trump should never be allowed to stand before a crowd without a teleprompter. Otherwise, this is what you get. I dont know what his handlers could be thinking. Imagine four more years of this incoherent gibberish.
NanaCat
(2,332 posts)He can barely read, so how would that help, unless they use pictures to get him to remember what to talk about?
Midnight Writer
(25,409 posts)Cuthbert Allgood
(5,339 posts)but a 7th grader that hasn't even opened the book or bothered to read the Cliff's Notes.
Aviation Pro
(15,578 posts)Motherfucker knows nothing.
Fucking Motherfucker.
pamdb
(1,439 posts)Didn't know Lee was a leprechaun.
OAITW r.2.0
(32,133 posts)Johonny
(26,178 posts)Sans a 1 minute briefing from someone only vaguely aware themselves before going out there. He's the least prepared speaker I've ever seen run. Who the fuck is voting for this guy?
Arthur_Frain
(2,355 posts)Never fight a pillow, boys, just as the ad for the mypillow guy eclipses half the screen.
Is some SNL writer scripting this campaign? At one point it sounds more like his SNL parody than him.
edhopper
(37,368 posts)Yo, me boys, swab that deck me hardies. Aye and avast you mangy land lubbers.
librechik
(30,957 posts)and why would anyone want to? That's quite a venue.
Blue Idaho
(5,500 posts)Made ignorance look so cheap.