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no_hypocrisy

(54,908 posts)
Mon Apr 15, 2024, 09:23 AM Apr 2024

This one thought keeps me from despair:

TSF is the protege of the original SF, Roy Cohn.

And Cohn got away with a lot of sh*t.

But he was ultimately held accountable and died in disgrace. And so will Trump.

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This one thought keeps me from despair: (Original Post) no_hypocrisy Apr 2024 OP
That's why I never wish him ill health. Bleacher Creature Apr 2024 #1
Yes, not just for his chagrin, but for the object history lesson it will provide the ages. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2024 #3
I wouldn't mind if he disappeared entirely. CaptainTruth Apr 2024 #5
Roy Cohn... I would never wish a death from AIDs on anyone... That said... hlthe2b Apr 2024 #2
And Donald Trump, Cohn's protege... SergeStorms Apr 2024 #8
Off topic but thank you. MuseRider Apr 2024 #15
I am so sorry your brother went through that. Younger folks can not imagine what it was like... hlthe2b Apr 2024 #17
Thank you. MuseRider Apr 2024 #18
It's the waiting that's the hardest part. n/t elocs Apr 2024 #4
Kick. N/T Upthevibe Apr 2024 #6
Oh yeah, that is reassuring PatSeg Apr 2024 #7
My one thought is that, like Generalissimo Francisco Franco... surfered Apr 2024 #9
"Limbaugh is still critically dead." Dave Bowman Apr 2024 #10
What does 'TSF' stand for?? WestCoastDem42 Apr 2024 #11
The Sick F*ck no_hypocrisy Apr 2024 #14
He's already been disgraced and it's going to get worse... MiHale Apr 2024 #12
No energy old man drumph Tribetime Apr 2024 #13
Angels in America Tommy Carcetti Apr 2024 #16
Thanks for the hope! UTUSN Apr 2024 #19

Bleacher Creature

(11,504 posts)
1. That's why I never wish him ill health.
Mon Apr 15, 2024, 09:29 AM
Apr 2024

He needs to stick around long enough to be held accountable and be lucid enough to know it.

Bernardo de La Paz

(60,320 posts)
3. Yes, not just for his chagrin, but for the object history lesson it will provide the ages. . . . nt
Mon Apr 15, 2024, 10:33 AM
Apr 2024

hlthe2b

(113,972 posts)
2. Roy Cohn... I would never wish a death from AIDs on anyone... That said...
Mon Apr 15, 2024, 09:40 AM
Apr 2024
In 1986, he was disbarred by the Appellate Division of the New York State Supreme Court for unethical conduct after attempting to defraud a dying client by forcing the client to sign a will amendment leaving him his fortune.[8] He died five weeks later from AIDS-related complications,[9] having vehemently denied that he had HIV.
He had a lifetime of horrific behavior.


I found it fascinating how his former "homophobic besties" dealt with the undeniable fact that, despite all denials, Cohn was gay.
This quote from Roger Stone (as relayed by Jeffrey Tubin in his New Yorker article on Cohn):
Speculation about Cohn's sexuality intensified following his death from AIDS in 1986. In a 2008 article published in The New Yorker, Jeffrey Toobin quotes Cohn associate Roger Stone: "Roy was not gay. He was a man who liked having sex with men. Gays were weak, and effeminate.


SergeStorms

(20,591 posts)
8. And Donald Trump, Cohn's protege...
Mon Apr 15, 2024, 11:41 AM
Apr 2024

never visited Cohn when he was dying, or even acknowledged Cohn after his death.

That's the type of "friend" Donald Trump is. 😒

MuseRider

(35,176 posts)
15. Off topic but thank you.
Mon Apr 15, 2024, 03:20 PM
Apr 2024

I went through the last 5 months of my brothers life rarely leaving his side. It was a horrific thing to witness, even being a critical care nurse did not prepare me for this with my brother. Every time I see someone wish someone else this ending I shudder and it all comes back, 22 years later.

hlthe2b

(113,972 posts)
17. I am so sorry your brother went through that. Younger folks can not imagine what it was like...
Mon Apr 15, 2024, 04:42 PM
Apr 2024

but my sister and I had a couple of older friends/work colleagues who died miserable deaths from AIDs. I am glad far fewer will die without the benefit of effective intervention today but it still brings back the cruelty of so many who did. And especially so for those like you who loved and cared for them.

for you and for your late brother.

MuseRider

(35,176 posts)
18. Thank you.
Mon Apr 15, 2024, 10:23 PM
Apr 2024

It has been a long time. It is a different sort of thing as I watched my father die of cancer and then my mother, all so long ago.

My brother was the kindest, most talented working musician in and around Houston then he was raped. He was gay but the rape was the end of his life. Thank you for your kind response. I will never quit crying over it but kindness makes me feel a bit better because I had to stay with him to be certain that he was not being ill treated. I could not even imagine how health care workers, being one myself, could be that cruel. Thank you.

PatSeg

(53,214 posts)
7. Oh yeah, that is reassuring
Mon Apr 15, 2024, 11:16 AM
Apr 2024

Things don't usually end well for the likes of Donald Trump, but they DO end.

surfered

(13,465 posts)
9. My one thought is that, like Generalissimo Francisco Franco...
Mon Apr 15, 2024, 11:44 AM
Apr 2024

…Rush Limbaugh is still critically dead.

MiHale

(13,032 posts)
12. He's already been disgraced and it's going to get worse...
Mon Apr 15, 2024, 12:28 PM
Apr 2024

My plus is he’s going to LIVE though it. Dying’s easy it doesn’t affect him and his legacy which is trash anyway.

Tommy Carcetti

(44,499 posts)
16. Angels in America
Mon Apr 15, 2024, 03:30 PM
Apr 2024

The play and TV Series by Tony Kushner has a dying Roy Cohn being tormented by the vision of Ethel Rosenberg, who he had helped convict and execute.

In the series, Rosenberg is played magnificently by Meryl Streep.

It's all fiction and wish fulfillment, but I still like to pretend that it actually happened.

"I came here to forgive, but all I can do is take pleasure in your misery. Knowing that I would get to see you die, more terribly than I did. And you are. Cause you're dying in shit, Roy. Defeated. And you could kill me... but you couldn't ever defeat me... you never won. And when you die, all anyone will say is, 'Better that he had never lived at all.'"
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