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elleng

(141,926 posts)
Wed Apr 17, 2024, 03:09 PM Apr 2024

Donald Trump's Secret Shame About New York City Haunts His Trial.

'With jury selection underway in Donald Trump’s criminal trial in Lower Manhattan, the former president’s chickens have finally come home to roost. It feels uniquely appropriate that Mr. Trump will have to endure the scrutiny on his old home turf. New York City residents have been subjected to his venality and corruption for much longer than the rest of the country, and we’re familiar with his antics — the threats, the lawsuits, the braggadocio, his general ability to slip through the tiniest crack in the bureaucracy or legal system just fast enough to avoid the consequences of his actions. He rose to fame here, but was never truly accepted by the old money elites he admired. The rich and powerful sometimes invited him to their parties, but behind his back they laughed at his coarse methods and his tacky aesthetic. His inability to succeed in New York in quite the way he wanted to drove much of the damage he did to the country as a whole, and arguably his entire political career.'>>>

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/04/17/opinion/trump-trial-new-york.html

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Donald Trump's Secret Shame About New York City Haunts His Trial. (Original Post) elleng Apr 2024 OP
His mob connections need to be highlighted more. LiberalFighter Apr 2024 #1
He complains that he can't get a fair trial in NY MadameButterfly Apr 2024 #7
As a side question how did Uncle Joe Apr 2024 #2
I did a little looking it up and it seems the expression is more about the inevitability than roosting Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2024 #3
That makes sense Uncle Joe Apr 2024 #5
I guess this answers my last question MadameButterfly Apr 2024 #6
I can't find a definition that adequately explains it MadameButterfly Apr 2024 #4
Nothing new in the article (at least for DU folk), but so well presented! n/t thesquanderer Apr 2024 #8

MadameButterfly

(4,039 posts)
7. He complains that he can't get a fair trial in NY
Wed Apr 17, 2024, 06:32 PM
Apr 2024

but in fact this is where we know him. New Yorkers have known he's corrupt for decades. If he doesn't like the people who know him to try him, that's his own fault. Chickens roosting, and all that.

Uncle Joe

(65,130 posts)
2. As a side question how did
Wed Apr 17, 2024, 06:15 PM
Apr 2024

"chickens have finally come home to roost" ever get to be bad thing?

It's just chickens going to sleep.

Thanks for the thread elleng.

Bernardo de La Paz

(60,320 posts)
3. I did a little looking it up and it seems the expression is more about the inevitability than roosting
Wed Apr 17, 2024, 06:24 PM
Apr 2024

It seems to be about birds returning as a metaphor for bad deeds being scattered but inevitably come back to punish the evildoer. Birds returning is the metaphor rather than chickens roosting.

MadameButterfly

(4,039 posts)
6. I guess this answers my last question
Wed Apr 17, 2024, 06:28 PM
Apr 2024

The point is the chickens do come home. And if you've put some baad chickens out there, that is a bad thing.

MadameButterfly

(4,039 posts)
4. I can't find a definition that adequately explains it
Wed Apr 17, 2024, 06:26 PM
Apr 2024

Ok, it's experiencing repercussions for your actions. But what do chickens have to do with it, and do they do bad things when they come home or do they just roost, i.e. sleep? If chickens get out and go away do they even come home?

There must be some farmers here who understand the assoiciation.

It never occurred to me to question it before.

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