This is so very important.

[Richard D]

[Baitball Blogger]

1. We'll be writing messages similar to this one if Trump wins.

[bahboo]

2. just what I was thinking...

[jaxexpat]

12. That was a paraphrase of an American state department standard preface, 2017-2020..

Those Persians, with their penchant to the dramatic and endless obsequious denials for personal responsibility from their literate classes. They piss off the rest of Islam with their attitudes and confuse the west with assumptions that the world is not cruel but simply ill mannered.

[wnylib]

14. Some if us did post such things during the Bush II regime.

I don't think much of Bill Maher these days, but he did a routine and DVD called, "I'm Swiss" to disassociate from W.

I saw posts by Americans on various sites saying that they would call themselves Canadians when abroad.

[peggysue2]

38. Exactly what I thought, Baitball Blogger

As an American, I was embarrassed, horrified, even shamed by the Bush/Cheney Administration. Never thought those years would fall into second place as the worst of American leadership and weaponized propaganda that led to years of senseless war.

But here we are with a large swath of the country buying every stupid utterance of a wanna-be dictator and the GOP turning into Putin cheerleaders.

Disgusting.

[Cha]

3. So what is "Oppressing" Iran?

TY

[Bernardo de La Paz]

4. Organized religion. . . . nt

[Warpy]

16. More like ENFORCED religion

I don't care how anybody organizes their own stories and whether or not they have rituals and meetings. I care whether or not they want to force me to do the same. That's where the line is and the Mullahs crossed it a long time ago.

Iran is actually one of the most secular countries on the planet. Their religious nust just get all the press, they're great bogeymen in the west.

I think all the sabre rattling and pullback followed by more promises of force followed by pullback over the last month shows the Mullahs are looking very shaky these days. It's not great news, they'd likely be replaced by a military junta. However, people are sick enough of the hypocritical rule of the Mullahs that they'd put up with the military---for a while.

The worst thing the CIA has ever done is the overthrow of the democratically elected Mossadegh and installed the Shah. Mossadegh had talked about nationalizing the oil Iran was sitting on that US oil men thought they owned. The CIA installed the Shah, and we know what a corrupt and vicious asshole he turned out to be, even though he was good for business (yes, that's sarcasm).

I call it the worst thing because it destroyed faith in the US in the whole region and has destabilized it for decades.

Here's one article about the secular shift in Iran:https://theconversation.com/irans-secular-shift-new-survey-reveals-huge-changes-in-religious-beliefs-145253

[niyad]

23. Thank you.

[brush]

29. Don't forget the Brits worked with the CIA to install the Shah. British Shell IIRC.

[markodochartaigh]

41. And then when the Iranians rebelled against the shah,

Reagan's henchmen worked with the authoritarian mullahs to hold US hostages until Reagan's inauguration speech, ensuring that Reagan would be elected and increasing the mullahs power in Iran.

[brush]

44. Yes, and as a result, Carter lost the election. The definition of that is treason...

but Reagan and the republicans got away with aiding and abetting the enemy in a time of war.

[Redleg]

31. Yes, the CIA have been bad actors and there is blowback

Many of the people in the region believe that the U.S. has never dealt with them in good faith.

[whathehell]

33. Oh please...

Generalizing JUST a tad?

[Bernardo de La Paz]

34. Oh please...

Do you really have anything to support your stance? Or just naysaying for your only post on this thread? What is your unstated hypothesis? Or do you have one?

What do you think is oppressing the Iranians / Persians?

Army?
Big Biz?
Atheists?
Scary clown posses?

Do you know what role the Supreme Leader in Iran plays? Look it up before you reply with your hypothesis.

Oh please...
Reply to whathehell (Reply #33)
Generalizing JUST a tad?

[whathehell]

35. A better question would be if you had anything

to support such an evasive, sweeping generality.
Then again, you may just be referencing those Lutheran Terrorists menacing the Middle East.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

36. We already asked the better question. You dodged it

What is your unstated hypothesis? Or do you have one?

What do you think is oppressing the Iranians / Persians?

Army?
Big Biz?
Atheists?
Scary clown posses?

Do you know what role the Supreme Leader in Iran plays? Look it up before you reply with your hypothesis.

[whathehell]

39. Lol..Who is "we"?

After you answer that, you can tell me why you are "dodging the question" by answering with the absurdly over generalized "organized religion".

[Bernardo de La Paz]

40. Add the poster of #3 which poses the actual question. You are not a serious person. . . nt

[whathehell]

42. Lol..As you well know, I wasn't responding

to "the actual question", I was responding to YOUR answer to it. That said, I think I do understand why you're trying so hard to sidestep it. It's kind of sad.

[Richard D]

5. Is this a sincere question? nt

[Cha]

6. Of course.. I hesitated to ask

because I didn't understand what they were saying in their message but I asked anyway, thinking someone would explain it to me.

[JoseBalow]

7. "we, the Iranian people"... maybe not all of the Iranian people, eh?

A crowd of hundreds of thousands chanting "Death to America"...

[ripcord]

8. Iran and the Islamic Republic are two seperate terror organizations

[Cha]

9. Thank You!

[FakeNoose]

10. Which one does the bidding of Vladimir Putin?

Asking for a friend ....

[ripcord]

13. Iran of course

[fierywoman]

11. The Iranians I know who reside in the USA refer to it as "Persia" ...

[littlemissmartypants]

19. Same. My Persian boyfriend is very sweet, generous and intelligent.

Thankfully he escaped the Middle East in the 1970's.

[fierywoman]

20. Does he or his family make the most DELICIOUS food?

[littlemissmartypants]

21. Lots! ❤️

[littlemissmartypants]

24. And...His brother sells Turquoise and gave me three perfect stones

I had earrings and a pendant made.

[fierywoman]

25. Sweet!

[littlemissmartypants]

26. ❤️

[TeamProg]

17. Long past time for another People's Revolution, just as the citizens of Israel should

revolt against Netanyahu and throw him out!

So what’s holding them up?

[TeamProg]

18. I have a second thought, maybe own's own house needs a good cleaning as well.

[Skittles]

27. as long as they don't associate all Americans with repukes

I'm good with that

[PufPuf23]

28. What is the source of the image you post in the OP?

Nice sentiment but hard to determine intent without knowing the source.

Can you provide a link? Maybe see associated verbiage too.

[Richard D]

30. It was from an Iranian . . .

. . . on Instagram. I do not know if I can find it again, If I do, I'll let you know.

[byronius]

32. Iran in the early seventies was gorgeous.

My family lived in Saudi Arabia, and one year we took a caravan of VW buses down through Africa, then a ship to India. We drove up through India and circled through Afghanistan, Iran and Iraq to get back home.

Teheran was a paradise. Gorgeous. Friendly people and amazing food everywhere.

Iraq, not so much. But Iran was an international country, wonderful to explore. Made Saudi look like a wasteland.

[SupportSanity]

37. Fantastic reminder that the regime is not the people.

Sad to say, but this might also be us... starting in a handful of months ... if we don't get the votes.

[calimary]

43. Making a note about this. It's worth keeping - and sharing.