Ill bet jurors will be doxed regularly during the trial.

[Kablooie]

One juror was excused today because her personal information was made public by someone. I expect right wing activists will be trying to dox the jurors constantly.
The jurors families will know they are in the trial and will certainly tell others. Once the info gets to a Republican it might be leaked to rw websites or news organizations.
Once someones personal info is released, they and their families will start to get threatening messages and won’t be able to remain an unbiased juror.

It’s going to be hard to control this.

[FarPoint]

1. When we get a jury with alternates...

Sequestering them makes sense to me...

[jimfields33]

2. They have to control it or it goes to mistrial.

It’s the court that needs to keep jury safe. They should be immediately sequestered. It’s absurd to allow them to run around reading and watching news. They need to be in an undisclosed hotel.

[soldierant]

43. That would protect them, but not their families.

I'll just leave it at that.

[Think. Again.]

3. The "someone" who outed the juror who left today was foxnews....

...I think it would be appropriate to sequester this jury and work out some kind of security arrangement for them for after the trial.

On trump's court-costs bill of course.

[JustABozoOnThisBus]

5. Security will be difficult, it'll be cops who assault them.

They'll be doxxed, then swatted, so it'll be New York's finest who come busting through the front door, with battering rams and flash-bangs, breaking glass and other property.

[Think. Again.]

9. Security doesn't have to mean cops and yeah, life can be difficult....

...but we do it anyway.

[soldierant]

44. JustABozo doeshave a good point though -

Swatting would definitely be the way to terrorize for which it is most difficult to determine the identity of the trrorist.

[Think. Again.]

48. Oh absolutely...

...and a good security structure for these jurors would be able to de-escalate something like that right away.

Edit to add: I misunderstood JustABozo's post.

[Think. Again.]

49. I misunderstood your post when I gave my first reply...

I see now what you were saying and yes, that is a scary possibility.

[onenote]

17. Actually, Fox News wasn't the only or even first media entity to "out" Juror #2.

There are others who are reporting, often in real time, on the proceedings. For example, the Inner City News site reported the identifying information about Juror #2 the day before Watters discussed it on Fox News.

[Think. Again.]

19. The people who asked #2 if she was a juror referred to the foxnews broadcast.

[onenote]

20. You have a link supporting that?

[Think. Again.]

25. I will have to look...

[Think. Again.]

30. Best I could do quickly...

"The first juror dismissed said she no longer believed she could be unbiased in the case. Since being selected on Tuesday, she had been targeted by Fox News host Jesse Waters, and said she had received a flurry of text messages from friends and family that led her to believe she had been identified."
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/other/trump-trial-juror-excused-over-concerns-of-identification-after-being-targeted-on-fox-news-live/ar-AA1neO6w

[onenote]

31. I don't think that statement indicates that the juror cited Fox News as the source of the information.

This is a real time description of the interaction between the Judge and Juror #2 in open court:

This was the exchange between the Judge and Juror #2 as reported by InnerCityPress:
Justice Merchan: We received a call yesterday from Juror Number 2, she said she has concerns about her ability to be fair. I directed her to be here at 9:15. Please bring her in.
Justice Merchan: It's Juror 280, is that right?
[Juror enters]
Justice Merchan: Good morning. What do you think?
Juror 2: I have concerns. Yesterday alone I had friends and colleagues questioning my identity as a juror. I don't think I can avoid outside pressures.
Justice Merchan: You are excused. I want to address the press. There's a reason this is an anonymous jury. Press is free to right about anything said here on the record. But please avoid physical descriptions - why mention Irish accent?

Admittedly this is not taken from the transcript but if the discussion had mentioned Fox News or Trump's tweet, someone would have reported that.

Fox was just one of a number of media outlets that disclosed information about the jurors based on statements made in open court. It is a good thing that the judge has decided to take certain information about the jurors out of the public record.

[Think. Again.]

34. Your defense of foxnews is noted.

[onenote]

35. I'd rather you noted my defense of folks not bending the truth on DU.

[Think. Again.]

37. Then perhaps foxnews shouldn't be trusted.

[onenote]

38. I don't trust Fox News. I do trust the fact that no one has reported that Juror #2 cited Fox News of Trump's tweets

as the basis for people figuring out she was a juror. Several media entities reported the same information. You're free to assume facts not in evidence; just don't expect courts to do the same.

[Think. Again.]

39. I don't recall stating that I expected the courts to call out foxnews.

[onenote]

40. Why wouldn't they if that was the source cited by the Juror #2?

I would hope they would. Why would you want the court to protect Fox News? ( See, you're not the only one who lob an accusation of being soft on FoxNews at someone ).

[Think. Again.]

45. You seem to be going in all sorts of directions...

...just to keep tagging me.

I get it. You think I shouldn't assume bad things about foxnews despite the fact that I see them do bad things everyday. Got it.

[AZSkiffyGeek]

51. Just keep moving

They’ll go back under the bridge soon…

[NH Ethylene]

41. I did.

Facts matter. Even if they don't suit our narrative. It doesn't make Fox suck any less if they weren't the first to identify her.

[onenote]

42. Agreed.

[Joinfortmill]

36. As you said, You have a link for that?

[wnylib]

4. Agree on sequestering the jury, ASAP.

[calimary]

50. I do, too.

They have to remain hidden, unavailable, and most importantly: UNFINDABLE! Nobody should be able to dig around and find out who they are and where they are. Unfortunately, the donald's self-preservational motives cannot be underestimated.

[spanone]

6. K&R

[RockRaven]

7. Six alternates may not be enough to avoid a mistrial...

As they get doxxed, some will develop health problems.

[Initech]

8. Fox News attempted to dox one of the jurors last night and they got pretty close.

These sick fuckers are going to screw with this trial, no question about it. The jurors better have some good protection.

[Think. Again.]

10. The juror that left did that specifically...

...because foxnews gave the world too many details and people immediately figured it out.

They didn't "attempt", they did.

[onenote]

18. How do you know it was the Fox News report. I don't think Juror #2 pointed to any particular source.

This was the exchange between the Judge and Juror #2:
Justice Merchan: We received a call yesterday from Juror Number 2, she said she has concerns about her ability to be fair. I directed her to be here at 9:15. Please bring her in.
Justice Merchan: It's Juror 280, is that right?
[Juror enters]
Justice Merchan: Good morning. What do you think?
Juror 2: I have concerns. Yesterday alone I had friends and colleagues questioning my identity as a juror. I don't think I can avoid outside pressures.
Justice Merchan: You are excused. I want to address the press. There's a reason this is an anonymous jury. Press is free to right about anything said here on the record. But please avoid physical descriptions - why mention Irish accent?

Fox was just one of a number of media outlets that disclosed information about the jurors based on statements made in open court. It is a good thing that the judge has decided to take certain information about the jurors out of the public record.

[Jarqui]

11. I suspect they'll look for their identification and

then search for kompromat
They only need to blackmail one juror.

or find garbage to use for an appeal

Capone jury switch would be ideal.

[Brother Buzz]

12. We can't do it, but we should be scrutinizing the jurors that have been seated, too

"When I buy a juror, I expect him to remain bought." - The Marmalade Shartcannon

[onenote]

22. Does that mean you want information about the juror's identities made public?

That position seems go against the flow here.

[Brother Buzz]

24. Not at all....

But I would not be unhappy if a super slick sleuth dug up the dirt on the QT, and passed the dots on to the authorities

[onenote]

26. Presumably you think that would be okay for the prosecution, but not the defense.

[Brother Buzz]

32. If there's some there there, why not?

I have a high degree of certainty that Judge Juan Merchan would smell any concocted (suitable for Truth Social) bullshit and deal with it.


Here's what we know about the seven men and five women on the jury (They look SOLID):

The first seated juror, who will be the foreperson on Trump’s jury, is a man originally from Ireland. He works in sales and has some college education. He is married but doesn’t have kids. He reads the New York Times and Daily Mail and watches some Fox News and MSNBC.

Juror two is an investment banker who has a Master's degree. He lives with his wife and does not have any kids. He follows Trump's TruthSocial posts as well as Michael Cohen on X, formerly known as Twitter. He said he's followed Trump since he became president and has seen quotes from Trump’s book, "The Art of the Deal."

Juror three is a corporate lawyer originally from Oregon. He gets his news from the New York Times, Wall Street Journal and Google. He’s a younger man who’s never been married and doesn’t have kids.

Juror four is a security engineer who is married and has three kids. He has a high school diploma, no social media and reads a “smattering” of the news organizations named in the questionnaire.

Juror five is a young Black woman who teaches English in a public charter school system. She has a Master’s degree in education, is not married and doesn’t have any kids.

Juror six is a software engineer at a large broadcast company who recently graduated from college. She voiced no strong feelings about Trump, is not married, has no kids and currently lives with three roommates in Chelsea. The juror gets her news from the New York Times, Google, Facebook and TikTok.

Juror seven is a civil litigator who is married with two kids and lives on the Upper East Side in Manhattan. Originally from North Carolina, he reads the New York Times, Wall Street Journal, New York Post and Washington Post. He said he has "political views as to the Trump presidency" and that he thinks there were likely Trump administration policies he disagreed with.

Juror eight is a retired wealth manager who is married with two kids. The man's hobbies include fly fishing and yoga.

Juror nine is a speech therapist with a Master’s degree. She’s not married and lives alone.

Juror 10 works for an e-commerce company and says he doesn’t really follow the news. He does, however, listen to podcasts on behavioral psychology. He was born and raised in Ohio, is unmarried and lives with another adult. He says he loves to spend time outdoors and with animals.

Juror 11 was seated on the jury after Judge Juan Merchan denied Trump’s challenge to remove her for cause. Trump’s lawyers argued she should be dismissed because she said she does not like Trump’s “persona.” The juror works for a multinational apparel company, is not a native New Yorker, is not married and doesn’t have kids. She doesn’t really follow the news but occasionally follows headlines and reads industry-specific publications.

The final juror seated on the main panel is a physical therapist. She has a doctorate degree and reads the New York Times, USA Today and CNN.

[Mark.b2]

53. I agree they look very solid...

All very educated and by all appearances in good jobs. A truck driver, cop, roofer, butcher or the like would have me concerned. One juror not wanting to be a team player is all it would take to ruin the party.

It doesn't bother me a couple say they watch FoxNews. Not the worst thing to say in this situation. If I wanted to improve my odds of being selected, I'd admit the same thing. I've ocassionally seen it while flipping channels!

[tinrobot]

13. Eliminating jurors is the defense team's last best hope.

If they can get 7 to drop out, it's a mistrial.

[LeftInTX]

14. Shades of John Gotti

I don't know if I'm glad or sad this isn't a murder trial.
White collar = jurors tend to sleep
Murder = more at stake, so they likely acquit.

[TheRealNorth]

15. Well, of course

Faux News has already started, and all they got was a finger-wagging.

[IcyPeas]

16. And if there is a pro-trumper on the jury what's stopping them from

leaking out other jurors names? There's an awful lot of people who are being trusted to keep their mouths shut.

Taking an oath -- when it comes to Donald Trump -- is laughable. There's no reward for being honorable these days.

[onenote]

21. What do propose as a solution? Abandoning all hope and not having a trial?

[Gore1FL]

28. Presumably time-in-jail for contempt-of-court is a tool to put the brakes on such a move. nt

[Roy Rolling]

23. Juror #2 was outed and threatened by goons

Where is law enforcement? Not a single arrest for political terrorism.

That is the problem.

[onenote]

27. Link to her having been threatened?

I think law enforcement is where it should be -- waiting for evidence. The DA could charge someone who threatened Juror #2 -- the fact that the DA hasn't done so suggests a lack of evidence.

[Boomerproud]

29. Any question that I had regarding whether some justice or decency would prevail

has gone right out the door.

[Bundbuster]

33. Mistrial and delay - MAGA's #1 goal

And it will be the same with all the forthcoming trials as well. Just obfuscate and delay until after the November election.

[TNNurse]

46. The media is already releasing too much info about he jurors.

That is going to get people terrorized and possibly killed.
There should be absolutely NOTHING about them known to the public.

Are they trying to get the MAGA zealots to hurt people and their families????

[Kablooie]

47. Absolutely. I agree.

I was surprised when they listed jobs and jury answers to many questions.
I would be very uneasy if I were a juror and they reported that about me.

I remember that in the OJ trial, at first they were a little lax about juror privacy but when a TV camera accidentally showed the jury the judge ordered them sequestered.
Maybe that will happen here. It's just been 3 days so maybe the judge will clamp down on this stuff soon.

[TNNurse]

54. If I were questioned to be a juror, I would respond that I was in fear of my life.

[Turbineguy]

52. In the hope of creating a mistrial

It's still jury tampering.