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babylonsister

(172,759 posts)
Fri Apr 19, 2024, 06:52 AM Apr 2024

Trump's Trial Is Already Wreaking Havoc on His Campaign


Trump’s Trial Is Already Wreaking Havoc on His Campaign
THE DEFENSE IS RESTLESS
The hush money trial was never going to be good for Trump, but the first week in court proved just how disruptive and damaging it will be for his 2024 bid.
Jake Lahut
Politics Reporter
Updated Apr. 19, 2024 6:35AM EDT / Published Apr. 19, 2024 4:48AM EDT


TRIAL AND ERROR

Even before Donald Trump’s criminal trial in New York began, it was clear that the lengthy and demanding proceedings would fundamentally change his 2024 campaign.

But it only took a few days to show that Trump’s hush money trial will be even more damaging, more constraining, and more significant than anyone expected.

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Taken together, Republicans are left with little more than stopgap solutions and, in some cases, a humbling realization of what’s to come—given that the embarrassing details of his alleged plot to pay off porn star Stormy Daniels are yet to emerge.

“I had sort of underestimated just the giant time-suck this is going to be for him as a candidate,” Alex Conant, a GOP strategist and a top aide on Marco Rubio’s 2016 campaign told The Daily Beast.


Crucially, it’s not just time, but money, being left on the table as the hush money case drags on.

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Trump's Trial Is Already Wreaking Havoc on His Campaign (Original Post) babylonsister Apr 2024 OP
So mote it be. ariadne0614 Apr 2024 #1
So mote it be ArkansasDemocrat1 Apr 2024 #22
Alvin Bragg may finish off his candidacy before Jack Smith even gets a shot at him. Buns_of_Fire Apr 2024 #2
Parking his posterior on a court bench Old Crank Apr 2024 #3
Alas, he gets Wednesdays off. niyad Apr 2024 #16
My hope, after a few contempt rulings --- he spends the case in a closed circuit room, away from jurors. 3Hotdogs Apr 2024 #4
THIS malaise Apr 2024 #10
Makes him the perfect Republican candidate... littlemissmartypants Apr 2024 #5
I have to bet those MAGAt down ballot candidates will not invoke his name or likeness... ProudMNDemocrat Apr 2024 #6
still for the life of me et tu Apr 2024 #8
The media has already moved the goalpost to require conviction for it to be a problem unblock Apr 2024 #14
How much of this is on the local news? Not much. LiberalFighter Apr 2024 #32
right, zero et tu Apr 2024 #39
Lardass might make more money by threatening to endorse them Buns_of_Fire Apr 2024 #11
In Indiana just before the primary...they are clinging to tfg JT45242 Apr 2024 #15
Let's hope so..... LiberalFighter Apr 2024 #33
And it comes with the territory PatSeg Apr 2024 #19
Yes, and they are getting what they deserve!! TSExile Apr 2024 #31
Yes they are PatSeg Apr 2024 #36
Forget not... Island Deac Apr 2024 #7
Listen to the bell, Grossbard. It tolls for thee JoseBalow Apr 2024 #40
Good malaise Apr 2024 #9
No, it's not. bigmonk Apr 2024 #12
Election Interference case. niyad Apr 2024 #13
People are more interested in the sex part of the trial Kaleva Apr 2024 #23
And he did it while Mr. Graduation Day was a newborn. Such was his love. GreenWave Apr 2024 #28
That will be highlighted Kaleva Apr 2024 #29
Vote, no matter how much Biden is in the lead. Make it the greatest loss ever for a candidate. twodogsbarking Apr 2024 #17
He's got my vote and the few Ds on my ballot will also n/t ArkansasDemocrat1 Apr 2024 #24
Eat it, MAGAts! LuvLoogie Apr 2024 #18
POS needs to be resting dalton99a Apr 2024 #20
I've always believed his time as a defendant will cost many votes, even if he's acquitted. lindysalsagal Apr 2024 #21
I agree. Too many think he has to be convicted. LiberalFighter Apr 2024 #34
It's just heartening to see him in court Johnny2X2X Apr 2024 #25
The paign, the paign... Blue Owl Apr 2024 #26
They wanted him, they got him. pandr32 Apr 2024 #27
They (and they probably already have) should demostrated how small his privates are, and the difficulty SWBTATTReg Apr 2024 #30
He always gets free coverage by being outrageous. SleeplessinSoCal Apr 2024 #35
GOOD orangecrush Apr 2024 #37
I really don't think it matters much. BlueTsunami2018 Apr 2024 #38

Buns_of_Fire

(19,161 posts)
2. Alvin Bragg may finish off his candidacy before Jack Smith even gets a shot at him.
Fri Apr 19, 2024, 07:25 AM
Apr 2024

Probably not completely - I always thought the classified documents would be the coup de grace - but TSF is "going through some things" that I never saw coming. Good.

Old Crank

(7,073 posts)
3. Parking his posterior on a court bench
Fri Apr 19, 2024, 07:52 AM
Apr 2024

5 days a week is good for him. And good for us. We don't get near as much insane drivel picked up by the breathless media.

3Hotdogs

(15,365 posts)
4. My hope, after a few contempt rulings --- he spends the case in a closed circuit room, away from jurors.
Fri Apr 19, 2024, 08:10 AM
Apr 2024

He spends Wednesdays and weekends on Rikers until the case is over.

ProudMNDemocrat

(20,895 posts)
6. I have to bet those MAGAt down ballot candidates will not invoke his name or likeness...
Fri Apr 19, 2024, 08:21 AM
Apr 2024

for their campaigns, lest they have to fork over 5% of their donation hauls like he is some registered trademark or something. I call that EXTORTION.

Want my endorsement? PAY ME FIRST!

et tu

(2,387 posts)
8. still for the life of me
Fri Apr 19, 2024, 08:36 AM
Apr 2024

i can't understand why biden isn't light years ahead of d45.
please unite and vote~

unblock

(56,198 posts)
14. The media has already moved the goalpost to require conviction for it to be a problem
Fri Apr 19, 2024, 09:14 AM
Apr 2024

If this trial ends without a conviction, the media will roar about his victory and they will declare him back in the race and probably find a poll showing he's the front-runner.

And ignore that he's a rapist and defamer and still has more trials to come but they'll declare them irrelevant if the can't result in conviction prior to November.

LiberalFighter

(53,544 posts)
32. How much of this is on the local news? Not much.
Fri Apr 19, 2024, 02:04 PM
Apr 2024

What is the likelihood this is the top of the news on their social media?

Buns_of_Fire

(19,161 posts)
11. Lardass might make more money by threatening to endorse them
Fri Apr 19, 2024, 08:43 AM
Apr 2024

if they don't cough up some campaign cash.

JT45242

(4,043 posts)
15. In Indiana just before the primary...they are clinging to tfg
Fri Apr 19, 2024, 09:15 AM
Apr 2024

They were trying to put Maga each other for governor, rep, senator, etc.

Come November, it may backfire, even in neo-Confederacy state like Indiana as Roevember may strike.

LiberalFighter

(53,544 posts)
33. Let's hope so.....
Fri Apr 19, 2024, 02:06 PM
Apr 2024

I'm in the 3rd district. Every ad I see they are attacking each other. From 3rd district to Governor.

PatSeg

(53,214 posts)
19. And it comes with the territory
Fri Apr 19, 2024, 09:54 AM
Apr 2024

when you get on the Trump Train. He's just a mob boss with fewer scruples. It was bad enough that he bullied and blackmailed them, now he wants to fleece them as well. It's a racket.

They should have seen it coming.

TSExile

(3,363 posts)
31. Yes, and they are getting what they deserve!!
Fri Apr 19, 2024, 01:43 PM
Apr 2024

Let them stew in their own juices. They own this.

PatSeg

(53,214 posts)
36. Yes they are
Fri Apr 19, 2024, 02:52 PM
Apr 2024

We all make mistakes, but these so-called public servants compromised every principle they claimed to embrace. For most, I'm sure it didn't start out that way; just a small trade-off or two, but pretty soon they were in so deep, they couldn't back out.

Well of course, they could have walked away like a handful of republicans did, but most could not or would not let go of that power. And all that for a cartoonish carnival barker with bad hair and the temperament of a toddler.

I have no doubt that they always knew it would end badly, but I suppose they hoped they wouldn't get too tarnished in the process. Too late for that I'm afraid. It will be included in their obituary and their own Liz Cheney warned them.

bigmonk

(114 posts)
12. No, it's not.
Fri Apr 19, 2024, 09:02 AM
Apr 2024

It's not a hush money trial. That's the title used to minimize it's importance. It's a campaign law violation trial. He's being tried for breaking campaign laws.

Kaleva

(40,365 posts)
23. People are more interested in the sex part of the trial
Fri Apr 19, 2024, 10:28 AM
Apr 2024

That will have a far bigger impact with the general population then a wonkish trial about violationd of campaign finance laws.

twodogsbarking

(18,775 posts)
17. Vote, no matter how much Biden is in the lead. Make it the greatest loss ever for a candidate.
Fri Apr 19, 2024, 09:25 AM
Apr 2024

Send the message over and over.

lindysalsagal

(22,905 posts)
21. I've always believed his time as a defendant will cost many votes, even if he's acquitted.
Fri Apr 19, 2024, 10:16 AM
Apr 2024

They wanted to identify with a winner, not a loser.

LiberalFighter

(53,544 posts)
34. I agree. Too many think he has to be convicted.
Fri Apr 19, 2024, 02:08 PM
Apr 2024

It could be 11 to 1 to convict and it will be a major impact.

And they forget there are so many other factors that will play out.

Johnny2X2X

(24,205 posts)
25. It's just heartening to see him in court
Fri Apr 19, 2024, 10:32 AM
Apr 2024

This is awful for him I. Every way. He hates being there having to answer for anything.

pandr32

(14,270 posts)
27. They wanted him, they got him.
Fri Apr 19, 2024, 12:25 PM
Apr 2024

Let's hang him around their necks as the decaying meat he is.

SWBTATTReg

(26,257 posts)
30. They (and they probably already have) should demostrated how small his privates are, and the difficulty
Fri Apr 19, 2024, 01:40 PM
Apr 2024

that Stormy had in trying to please someone w/ such a small blank. Where is it? Oh, there it is...I've been working forever, is it up yet? That's probably the embarrassing part that they want to cover up. Gross.

BlueTsunami2018

(4,988 posts)
38. I really don't think it matters much.
Fri Apr 19, 2024, 03:47 PM
Apr 2024

He doesn’t need to campaign, his voters are locked in no matter what and the media gives him billions of dollars in free advertising.

This is and was always going to be a coin flip election. We’ve got to turn out the vote like never before in the key swing states. I have no doubt that the President is going to crush in the popular vote but that is irrelevant. It’s going to be a squeaker where it matters, just like the last two times.

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