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RandySF

(85,065 posts)
Fri Apr 19, 2024, 11:50 AM Apr 2024

Trump campaign planning to deploy 100K attorneys, volunteers to monitor vote counts

The Trump campaign and Republican National Committee (RNC) on Friday said it planned have more than 100,000 attorneys and volunteers in battleground states to monitor vote counting in November’s election.

The campaign announced it would offer training sessions every month on monitoring voting sites and tabulation centers. Poll watchers would be observing and reporting any irregularities, and lawyers would be prepared to respond to any potential issues.

The announcement, which the campaign and RNC dubbed “the most extensive and monumental election integrity program in the nation’s history,” underscores the degree to which former President Trump’s fixation on the false claim that the 2020 election was fraudulent has seeped into his 2024 bid for the White House.

“Having the right people to count the ballots is just as important as turning out voters on Election Day. Republicans are now working together to protect the vote and ensure a big win on November 5th!” Trump said in a statement through his campaign.



https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4604717-trump-campaign-planning-to-deploy-100k-attorneys-volunteers-to-monitor-vote-counts/

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Trump campaign planning to deploy 100K attorneys, volunteers to monitor vote counts (Original Post) RandySF Apr 2024 OP
Seems to me the Democrats should have an equal number of volunteers Ocelot II Apr 2024 #1
I'm going to train to be a poll worker this year Marthe48 Apr 2024 #8
I think John Kerry promised 70,000 Barry Markson Apr 2024 #9
I know of 11,000 or so out of state attorneys who went to battleground states in 2004 LetMyPeopleVote Apr 2024 #35
I was one of 3,000 out of state attorneys who went to Florida in 2004 as part of the Kerry Edwards Voter Protection tea LetMyPeopleVote Apr 2024 #34
Thank you for doing this invaluable service! Abolishinist Apr 2024 #51
Trump lies a lot, just saying krawhitham Apr 2024 #2
They are late to the game. Ms. Toad Apr 2024 #3
They will not be there to just "monitor" the count. barbaraann Apr 2024 #4
If they do, they will be kicked out. N/t Ms. Toad Apr 2024 #6
They might have the Brooks Brothers riot in mind. barbaraann Apr 2024 #11
I've done this job for Democrats since 2008. Ms. Toad Apr 2024 #17
You are far more knowledgeable and experienced than I am. barbaraann Apr 2024 #20
You do not want uniform officers at polling places LetMyPeopleVote Apr 2024 #37
Nope. Ms. Toad Apr 2024 #39
Poll watchers are indeed limited LetMyPeopleVote Apr 2024 #36
Yup. Ms. Toad Apr 2024 #38
100,000 attorneys? He couldn't afford a dozen. Wednesdays Apr 2024 #5
Attorneys and volunteers. Ms. Toad Apr 2024 #12
How Stalinist.... OAITW r.2.0 Apr 2024 #7
was just thinking the same thing TxGuitar Apr 2024 #15
Implied fraud. spanone Apr 2024 #29
When I signed up to be a Democratic election observer I was being "Stalinist"? onenote Apr 2024 #48
All due respect, onenote..... OAITW r.2.0 Apr 2024 #49
These effin idiots are still willing to be disbarred for Smelvis? malaise Apr 2024 #10
I've been doing the same thing for Democrats since 2008. Ms. Toad Apr 2024 #13
There's an ENORMOUS difference between what you do Wednesdays Apr 2024 #42
The thread isn't about what they did in 2020. Ms. Toad Apr 2024 #44
The only thing repugs did Tickle Apr 2024 #52
Brown shirts and swastikas, and carrying Nazi flags. . Emile Apr 2024 #14
😂 where was this? NT Tickle Apr 2024 #53
Still in the planning stage as the OP stated. Emile Apr 2024 #54
Trump vote monitor Celerity Apr 2024 #16
Do we have a betting pool NanaCat Apr 2024 #18
Planning? Or just claiming they will? JHB Apr 2024 #19
More like a gazillion! Chakaconcarne Apr 2024 #21
Wholesale made-iin-China brown shirts? UTUSN Apr 2024 #22
Will somebody please throw a bucket of water on this asspickle? maxrandb Apr 2024 #23
Sure they are.🙄 we can do it Apr 2024 #24
Arm with info Dear_Prudence Apr 2024 #25
trmp saw fraud where there was none. He will again. spanone Apr 2024 #26
"Wouldn't you like to be unpaid and disbarred too?" struggle4progress Apr 2024 #27
Aren't all Traildogbob Apr 2024 #28
Result: 3 unpaid ex-attorneys and 3000 volutneers who think 3 + 7 37. Ping Tung Apr 2024 #30
So they are going to spend millions of campaign donations on Attorneys and not campaigning. Jacson6 Apr 2024 #31
He's known for not paying lawyers on his own cases and he's currently going broke. tinrobot Apr 2024 #32
I'm an attorney who has served as a Democratic election observer and adviser. And haven't been paid a dime. onenote Apr 2024 #46
Donnie seems to be *planning* to lose the vote and win the steal unblock Apr 2024 #33
sending angry mobs to stop the vote count is how I read that info. ZonkerHarris Apr 2024 #40
100k attorneys? Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Apr 2024 #41
Want to know a secret? brooklynite Apr 2024 #43
lol, the Orange Fascist is gobbling up all of the RNCs money and paying his own lawyers Tarc Apr 2024 #45
A suggestion. Instead of just pooh-poohing the repubs plan, sign up to be a Democratic volunteer observer onenote Apr 2024 #47
"Republicans are now working together to protect the vote and ensure a big win on November 5th!" GenThePerservering Apr 2024 #50

Ocelot II

(130,814 posts)
1. Seems to me the Democrats should have an equal number of volunteers
Fri Apr 19, 2024, 11:51 AM
Apr 2024

to monitor the monitors. Quem custodiet ipsos custodes?

Marthe48

(23,248 posts)
8. I'm going to train to be a poll worker this year
Fri Apr 19, 2024, 12:05 PM
Apr 2024

I'll get a couple days training before the day. Ohio has 'judges' in the polling places to de-escalate situations.

Ohio has a special election on June 11, 2024 to fill the U.S. House seat that bill johnson (rwnj-pos) deserted for a $400,000.00/yr job in which his buddies on the board at Youngstown U. installed him.

The Democratic candidate is Michael Kripchak. For the 6th District.

 

Barry Markson

(280 posts)
9. I think John Kerry promised 70,000
Fri Apr 19, 2024, 12:05 PM
Apr 2024

When he ran against Bushhitler.

Did that actually happen?

LetMyPeopleVote

(180,616 posts)
35. I know of 11,000 or so out of state attorneys who went to battleground states in 2004
Fri Apr 19, 2024, 02:07 PM
Apr 2024

I was one of 3000 attorneys in Florida (800 in Broward county alone) in 2004. I was offered the opportunity to go to Ohio but went to Florida. That was in addition to the in-state attorneys who were on the ground in these states. I met some really great Florida attorneys who were calling the shots in 2004.

LetMyPeopleVote

(180,616 posts)
34. I was one of 3,000 out of state attorneys who went to Florida in 2004 as part of the Kerry Edwards Voter Protection tea
Fri Apr 19, 2024, 02:04 PM
Apr 2024

There were 800 out of state attorneys in Broward County where I was stationed. Kerry Edwards had approximately 11,000 out of state attorneys go to battleground states in 2004. It was interesting but you really need in state people who can be in the polling stations. This was my first experience with voter protection, and I have been working on voter protection efforts ever since.

In Texas, we are gearing up. I was in the voter protection boiler room for the primary and we will have teams out for the general election. I was on a zoom call for the state party two weeks ago on voter protection.

We will do our best to be ready and it will be interesting to see what happens.

Abolishinist

(2,977 posts)
51. Thank you for doing this invaluable service!
Sat Apr 20, 2024, 01:53 AM
Apr 2024

And it is so unfortunate that this is even an issue. I'm afraid the intimidation of election workers is going to be exponentially greater than it was is 2020.

Ms. Toad

(38,715 posts)
3. They are late to the game.
Fri Apr 19, 2024, 11:56 AM
Apr 2024

Democrats have been doing his for years. Mostly without Republican counterparts. On the few occasions when any have shown up they were poorly trained and unorganized.

I've been personally involved since 2008.

barbaraann

(9,289 posts)
4. They will not be there to just "monitor" the count.
Fri Apr 19, 2024, 11:57 AM
Apr 2024

They will be there to intimidate, threaten, disrupt, and god knows what else. An army of fascist chaos agents.

barbaraann

(9,289 posts)
11. They might have the Brooks Brothers riot in mind.
Fri Apr 19, 2024, 12:11 PM
Apr 2024

Or causing enough chaos to destroy the process before they are kicked out.

Ms. Toad

(38,715 posts)
17. I've done this job for Democrats since 2008.
Fri Apr 19, 2024, 12:27 PM
Apr 2024

In three countries, and dozens of precincts. Being an observer (including the restrictions) is taken very seriously by election officials. If they don't act to remove a badly behaved Republican observer promptly, I have a direct line to our "war room" and (in the main county I observe in) to the county board of elections. They will be there in no more than drive time plus 5 minutes to take care of the matter.

In the Democratic training, the main take-away is that if we get ourselves kicked out, we are dead to the party. In Ohio, observers can't be replaced mid-day, since we are registered with the state for a specific precinct, and cannot serve in a different precinct. So getting kicked out means no Democratic observer to report problems and help troubleshoot for the remainder of the day. The same would be true for Republican observers.

When I'm sworn in I've been warned by more than one PEO that I am not permitted to speak with, or approach, any voter. This warning has come from Democratic PEOs who know they are swearing in a Democratic observer.

barbaraann

(9,289 posts)
20. You are far more knowledgeable and experienced than I am.
Fri Apr 19, 2024, 12:43 PM
Apr 2024

I have only observed one vote count/machine tabulation here in Oregon and it went smoothly, but I just can't help it--I am an extreme worrier. Also, I do believe the right-wingers are going to go all-out to put Trump in the Presidency by any means available to them.

Do you think that uniformed police officers might be needed at places where the votes are counted this year?

LetMyPeopleVote

(180,616 posts)
37. You do not want uniform officers at polling places
Fri Apr 19, 2024, 02:17 PM
Apr 2024

I have had to protest and call the election office when there were uniform officers at a polling place in that this can intimidate some voters. In 2016, I was running the statewide Clinton voter protection and we had some officers in Bexar county standing outside with weapons. I called the secretary of state on this and they promised to look into it.

One of these tools used for voter protection a nation-wide DNC database called LBJ where all voting related incidents are gathered and documented for later use if there is litigation.

Ms. Toad

(38,715 posts)
39. Nope.
Fri Apr 19, 2024, 02:24 PM
Apr 2024

Uniformed police officers are far more likely to intimidate potential Democratic voters than Republican voters.

They can be called if need be, but generally the position of the folks I work with is that we don't want uniformed officers around because of potential voter intimidation.

LetMyPeopleVote

(180,616 posts)
36. Poll watchers are indeed limited
Fri Apr 19, 2024, 02:13 PM
Apr 2024

True the Vote targeted my county in 2012. I had 70 or so poll watchers out and we had few issues. I did some poll watching during the one weekend of weekend early voting. There was a true the vote asshole there but he was fairly well behaved.

That was the last year before the SCOTUS gutted the Voting Rights Act. The DOJ had observers in five or so of the key precincts and the DOJ told my poll watchers that they were not needed because only an idiot would try something with DOJ observers on the ground.

Poll watchers can only talk to the head election judge unless the judge allows them to do more. The main thing that a poll watcher can do is go outside to call the election protection attorneys in the boiler rooms.

Ms. Toad

(38,715 posts)
38. Yup.
Fri Apr 19, 2024, 02:22 PM
Apr 2024

I haven't personally experienced any disruptive incidents outside of the ordinary in all the time I was in the precincts. (Ordinary - people electioneering inside the barricades, pollworkers who are mishandling absentee voters, PEOs who do not understand an observer's role and try to kick us out before the ballots are packed up to go back to the BOE; not ordinary - people engaging in violence, brandishing weapons, etc.) As a boiler-room staff member I heard of a few outside of the ordinary incidents (hot-heads outside the polling places - including at least one Democrat). Ditto - working in the Board of Elections on Election Day (where voting is not actually occurring).

As to the advice of the DOJ - my role is far less making sure an idiot doesn't try anything, than it is to make sure that everyone/thing is handled properly: Two opposite-party people present whenever a voter needs assistance, seals properly on machines, people are given a non-provisional ballot whenever they are eligible, everyone who is not eligible is given a provisional ballot - or sent to the precinct where they are registered to vote, etc. Those have nothing to do with an idiot trying anything - and everything to do with the fact that (in our area, at least) most of the pollworkers do this role once a year or so - AND - are not retrained between elections, even if the laws have changed. Mistakes happen - an extra set of eyes and ears help to get all of the votes cast.

Wednesdays

(22,806 posts)
5. 100,000 attorneys? He couldn't afford a dozen.
Fri Apr 19, 2024, 11:59 AM
Apr 2024

They'd all have to be volunteers. And if they're not, they're suckers because he'd never pay them!

Ms. Toad

(38,715 posts)
12. Attorneys and volunteers.
Fri Apr 19, 2024, 12:13 PM
Apr 2024

Democrats seek attorneys, but more than half are not attorneys. Virtually all are unpaid - every 2 or 4 years, we volunteer 18 hours on election day, and a few hours of training ahead of time. Many of us also volunteer several 12 hour days ahead of time during early voting, and some volunteer after to observe tabulation of absentee ballots.

OAITW r.2.0

(32,331 posts)
7. How Stalinist....
Fri Apr 19, 2024, 12:05 PM
Apr 2024

“Having the right people to count the ballots is just as important as turning out voters on Election Day. "

TxGuitar

(4,350 posts)
15. was just thinking the same thing
Fri Apr 19, 2024, 12:19 PM
Apr 2024

"I consider it completely unimportant who in the party will vote, or how; but what is extraordinarily important is this—who will count the votes, and how." Stalin, said in 1923; Boris Bazhanov The Memoirs of Stalin's Former Secretary (1992)

onenote

(46,185 posts)
48. When I signed up to be a Democratic election observer I was being "Stalinist"?
Fri Apr 19, 2024, 10:16 PM
Apr 2024

Who knew?
There are other folks here that have taken on that important responsibility. I suggest you consider doing so if you want to help the party on election day.

OAITW r.2.0

(32,331 posts)
49. All due respect, onenote.....
Fri Apr 19, 2024, 10:21 PM
Apr 2024

that's not the point of my post. You aren't Stalin. Trump and his crew? Oh yeah.

Ms. Toad

(38,715 posts)
13. I've been doing the same thing for Democrats since 2008.
Fri Apr 19, 2024, 12:15 PM
Apr 2024

Are you suggesting there is something unethical about being an election observer?

Ms. Toad

(38,715 posts)
44. The thread isn't about what they did in 2020.
Fri Apr 19, 2024, 08:48 PM
Apr 2024

It is about deploying election observers - the exact same role I've been serving in since 2008.

In that entire time, I have encountered maybe a half-dozen Republican observers. They simply haven't gotten their act together to appoint election observers. What they are suggesting is that they are finally going to get their act together, and do the same thing Democrats have been doing for more than a decade. Being an officially appointed election observer does not put one at risk for disbarrment.

 

NanaCat

(2,332 posts)
18. Do we have a betting pool
Fri Apr 19, 2024, 12:28 PM
Apr 2024

For how many Scaramucci Units it will take before they get it up and running?

I'm in for 18 SUs.

Dear_Prudence

(1,178 posts)
25. Arm with info
Fri Apr 19, 2024, 01:11 PM
Apr 2024

I hope there is some education to voters on "if you see something, say something" regarding poll monitors. Outside the polls I have sometimes taken the vote recommendation flyer from a Repug because it helps me know who to vote against in some of the more obscure races.

spanone

(141,815 posts)
26. trmp saw fraud where there was none. He will again.
Fri Apr 19, 2024, 01:12 PM
Apr 2024

100,000 attorneys? I call bullshit.

Traildogbob

(13,071 posts)
28. Aren't all
Fri Apr 19, 2024, 01:14 PM
Apr 2024

His attorneys “essentially”volunteers, that ultimately get disbarred for that free work?

Jacson6

(2,068 posts)
31. So they are going to spend millions of campaign donations on Attorneys and not campaigning.
Fri Apr 19, 2024, 01:20 PM
Apr 2024

tinrobot

(12,091 posts)
32. He's known for not paying lawyers on his own cases and he's currently going broke.
Fri Apr 19, 2024, 01:25 PM
Apr 2024

I doubt he'll convince 100 lawyers to sign up for this.

He'll never get close to 100,000.

onenote

(46,185 posts)
46. I'm an attorney who has served as a Democratic election observer and adviser. And haven't been paid a dime.
Fri Apr 19, 2024, 10:12 PM
Apr 2024

Its something we volunteer to do.

 

brooklynite

(96,882 posts)
43. Want to know a secret?
Fri Apr 19, 2024, 08:36 PM
Apr 2024

The Biden-Harris campaign will do the same thing. Because both Parties ALWAYS do so.

All this is is a press-release to jostle more dollars out of the MAGA faithful.

(my wife -- a lawyer -- and me -- not a lawyer -- have served as voter protection volunteers for Kerry, Obama and Clinton)

Tarc

(10,601 posts)
45. lol, the Orange Fascist is gobbling up all of the RNCs money and paying his own lawyers
Fri Apr 19, 2024, 09:04 PM
Apr 2024

They'll be lucky to be able to pay 1,000, and the ones they do will just be Sidney Powell and Giuliani types of bottom-scrapers.

Not worried.

onenote

(46,185 posts)
47. A suggestion. Instead of just pooh-poohing the repubs plan, sign up to be a Democratic volunteer observer
Fri Apr 19, 2024, 10:14 PM
Apr 2024

GenThePerservering

(3,487 posts)
50. "Republicans are now working together to protect the vote and ensure a big win on November 5th!"
Sat Apr 20, 2024, 01:18 AM
Apr 2024

The whole point of this is right there.

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