U.S. likely to enact a law soon that could ban TikTok nationwide

[Eugene]

Source: NBC News

U.S. likely to enact a law soon that could ban TikTok nationwide

House Speaker Johnson plans to package TikTok legislation with critical aid for Ukraine, Israel and Taiwan and send it to the Senate. President Joe Biden vowed to sign it into law.

April 18, 2024, 4:05 PM EDT
By Scott Wong and Kyle Stewart

WASHINGTON — Legislation that could ban TikTok in the U.S. unless it cuts ties with its Chinese parent company is on a path to quickly get to President Joe Biden’s desk and be signed into law.

The bill, which has the backing of Biden and key members of Congress, would allow the administration to ban the popular video-sharing app nationwide if it does not divest from China-based ByteDance within one year.

A similar bill already passed the House in a lopsided, bipartisan 352-65 vote in March. But it has been stalled in the Democratic-controlled Senate, where Commerce Committee Chairwoman Maria Cantwell, D-Wash., had been looking to put her mark on it.

Now, the House plans to package a slightly revised TikTok bill with billions in foreign aid for Ukraine, Israel and Taiwan, all but guaranteeing the potential TikTok ban will become law.

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Read more: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/us-likely-enact-law-soon-ban-tiktok-nationwide-rcna148391

[Voltaire2]

1. Full on bipartisan idiocy.

This is likely to be a political disaster for Biden if in fact TikTok gets banned.

[jimfields33]

3. All tik tok has to do is transfer it to an acceptable department that doesn't involve China.

Not much to ask.

[angrychair]

68. It's not possible

My understanding is that it's not possible as China requires a special export release to export certain technologies out side of China and they are not likely to give that permission.

[uponit7771]

109. It's been done before by Chinese real estate companies. If I'm not mistaken, bite dance had its chance and waited too lo

[oldsoftie]

111. Then it IS possible, they just wont do it. Which says a lot.

of course China doesnt want to give up their control. They use TikTok to spread disinformation, to send toxic info to kids, to support Trump over Biden, to collect ALL data from the devices its on, etc etc
There's a reason no govt phones are allowed to use it

[Tarc]

85. That's literally communism

It is truly bizarre how the anti-tiktok crusade has infested otherwise sensible minds.

[uponit7771]

110. Communism is a state-owned Enterprise like bite dance, isn't it?

[womanofthehills]

87. Project Texas to the rescue!

TikTok's two-year effort to appease US lawmakers and defend its commitment to protecting the privacy of US-based TikTokers has culminated in an effort called Project Texas. This $1.5 billion initiative is a collaboration among TikTok, the US government, and Austin, Texas-based Oracle. https://www.zdnet.com/article/tiktok-ceo-updates-on-project-texas-says-us-user-data-will-be-in-oracles-hands-soon/

[SWBTATTReg]

8. Yes. And what gets me, is what in the hell are they worried about, I've never seen what they are so concerned

about, in watching the numerous Tik Tok videos that I have over the years.

[edhopper]

89. Tik tok is not a video app

It is a data collection ap that also has videos.
All the data is accessible by the Chinese government.

[womanofthehills]

98. What about TEMU & other Chinese shopping sites

Temu is the most downloaded shopping app.

[edhopper]

99. That too

People are foolish to use it.
Should also bee banned.

[oldsoftie]

129. Another tool of the CCP. nt

[oldsoftie]

115. You need to research how it poisons kids & adults

How it sends disinformation
How it pushes pro anorexia videos to people with eating disorders
How it steals your personal info; even passwords, from your phone
They push trump over Biden
The Chinese govt wants to weaken all parts of our society
https://www.defense.gov/News/News-Stories/Article/Article/3354874/leaders-say-tiktok-is-potential-cybersecurity-risk-to-us/

[SWBTATTReg]

121. I never seen this nor do I get into this sort of material online. One can control where they go, eh?

As far as I'm concerned, they're fine from my viewpoint, only watching the pranks tik toks. Every online platform has its issues.

[FalloutShelter]

12. That's the point, isn't. it?

Make Joe swallow poison in order to get the aid packages desperately needed by Ukraine.

[Docreed2003]

101. Exactly this

[Ping Tung]

74. A free press can, of course, be good or bad, but, most certainly without freedom,

A free press can, of course, be good or bad, but, most certainly without freedom, the press will never be anything but bad.
Albert Camus

[DemocraticPatriot]

84. The only thing they can "ban" is downloading the app from American websites...

It isn't as if they can come and remove it from anyone's phone, or stop the app from working. People will go on using it as usual. The only people affected much will be those who aren't on it yet, or those getting a new smartphone--- but it seems likely that they could find the app on a non-US-based website.

I am opposed to the 'ban', but the ban is rather toothless, IMHO. No 'ban' can stop Americans from using TikTok.

[uponit7771]

107. ByteDance is a Chinese SOE !!!

[oldsoftie]

117. Its amazing that I see so many. posts here who dont know the threats

I'm used to everyone on this site keeping up with a LOT more news than the average person

[honest.abe]

132. Non-sense. Its a national security risk and brain garbage for our kids.

Also its not going to happen for 1 year. Even if would happen before then it would probably have zero negative impact on the election. If anything it might help Biden by stopping all the RW crap people see on Tiktok.

[LuvLoogie]

2. This is bullshit. This will kill progressive enthusiasm for Joe.

It won't be a blue wave.

This bill is popular with fascists and their supporters.

[kcr]

11. It's not. This will put a huge dent

in all the bullshit misinformation Tik Tok is filled with that depresses progressive enthusiasm.

[LuvLoogie]

19. Do you use TikTok?

For how long?

Edited to add: It will be like Twitter versus X, but worse.

[NavyDem]

36. I am on TikTok around 6 hours per day.

I see about 15% Rightwing Bullshit, and 80% BluAnon Watermellon Brigade "Genocide Joe" posts, and about 5% of the creators I actually follow that are mostly left leaning, but not politically ignorant.

I could save 4 hours per day if I wasn't having to block the bullshit.

[LuvLoogie]

52. Just scroll past and ignore the shit. Interact with the content you like.

Like, comment, share, repost. It does help.

As far as the pro Palestinian content, there are plenty that do not give into the Genocide Joe foolery.

[Autumn]

35. Have you ever been on Tik Tock? Because you are wrong.

There is a lot of progressive enthusiasm on Tik Tok. Unlike the garbage on Loony Musk's platform which the politicians won't touch.

[Silent3]

24. Chances are the law gives TikTok a fair amount of time to find a buyer...

…so I doubt there will be any impact before the election, and probably TikTok, if forced to do so, will find a buyer, so TikTok isn’t just going to disappear in the immediate future, if ever.

[LuvLoogie]

33. Yeah and, so far the trump camp are expressing interest in purchasing.

We can change TikTok to XX

[womanofthehills]

88. No way could they come up with 50 billion

Every yr it’s worth billions more.

[Tree Lady]

135. Thats why Maria Cantwell from WA

was against the bill she said 6 months didn't give them enough time to sell, she was okay with a year.

I voted for her the 10 years I lived in WA, she is a good senator and has been working on the Tik tok bill and wouldn't vote for it if she thought it was a problem.

[Silent3]

136. Whether it's six months or a year, however, the idea that young people will suddently hate Biden...

...and Democrats in general because TikTok went dark isn't a big concern. Oh, I'm sure some will know a possible end is coming, but anyone informed enough to know TikTok's time is ticking away probably also would know it was a bipartisan move, and is hopefully smart enough not to vote much differently because of that.

The comments here seem to be based on the idea of a sudden youth uproar because of TikTok might poof out of existence any minute now.

[honest.abe]

133. Why is Joe always to blame??

You sound like the mainstream media. No matter what happens its Joe's fault.

[bucolic_frolic]

4. TikTok but not Linked In or X?

Will Congress ever do anything popular? You'd think they'd get it once in awhile.

[themaguffin]

67. We absolutely should ban it, unless China sells it. No way would we let a Soviet company here like this.

[Omnipresent]

5. Not a bad idea!

Tiktok already runs alot of anti-Biden crap. Toss it in the garbage already.

[DemocratInPa]

7. Great Idea.. Who needs Young Voters..

[Omnipresent]

9. If Biden is counting on tiktok to help him.

Then we are lost.
Tiktok is full anti-Biden content.
If Biden can’t get competitive there, then there is no point in keeping it alive.

[DemocratInPa]

15. It's not about counting on TikTok..

Its takes away a young voters platform..

TikTok was huge for us in 2020, and I believe it would have been again this year.

[Omnipresent]

21. Yes, and republicans have picked up on that.

All I have been seeing is trumpism run amok on that app.

[LuvLoogie]

27. You should start looking at different content.

It's up to you, for now.

[Omnipresent]

51. It's in the TikTok feed

It automatically pops up.

[LuvLoogie]

54. But you have a part in what shows up in the For You feed. If you click on Following...

It focuses on the content created by the creators you follow. Plus, if you like, comment, share a given video in your For You feed, it will promote that creator more.

I don't get much craziness in my For You feed. Also, you can alert on content you find violates TikTok terms.

You'll notice how people use abbreviations or altered consonants on certain words in order to avoid the auto censors. For instance, people discussing violence against women and/or children issues will use SA in place of sexual abuse, and say grape instead of rape.

Long short, there is a way to weed through the chaff, but if you leave it to a ban or ownership by American corporate interests, the right wing crap will be doubly promoted and progressive, diverse voices suppressed ala Twitter/X.

[Omnipresent]

61. If TikTok gets banned, everyone will just find another app to use.

[LuvLoogie]

63. Besides the uniqueness of the app and it's ease of use, a ban will dissolve the communities

and connections people have assembled over the years. That is the most important part. Whoever buys TikTok will sue new platforms that try to copy it's function. There might even be a clause that TikTok owns the content. So a lot of unique creation will be lost.

The live feeds, how other content creators can join the live feeds in multiuser video discussion. How Creators can respond with video within comment the comments section...

[womanofthehills]

86. Kids will be really angry

Around 100 million Americans are on TicToc. Lots of people make their living off TicToc

It’s a huge outlet and good income for sick, handicapped, dying kids etc. A large portion of videos are kids with every kind of handicap you can imagine.

“Average income of TicToc influencers
Here’s the breakdown from their survey:

48% earned less than $15,000.
9% earned between $15,000 and $25,000.
7% earned between $25,000 and $35,000.
5% earned between $35,000 and $50,000.
11% earned between $50,000 and $75,000.
5% earned between $75,000 and $100,000.
6% earned between $100,000 and $150,000.
7% earned $200,000 or more.
Based on those numbers, the median salary for TikTok influencers is somewhere between $15,000 and $25,000.”

“Just under one-third of influencers are making a full-time salary.”

https://explodingtopics.com/blog/tiktok-earning-stats

[oldsoftie]

123. Its a threat to kids. Its a national security threat.

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2023/apr/04/how-tiktoks-algorithm-exploits-the-vulnerability-of-children

And its all intentional. Why cant the people in China use it?

[LuvLoogie]

127. It's no more a threat to kids than any other social media app

And I call bullshit on it being a threat to national security. It's fucking TikTok.

Starlink is a bigger threat. Musk is playing both sides with his tech in a war zone.

The NSA isn't conducting business on TikTok. If anything it's acting covertly as undercover users. They'd actually need to do real espionage to get at the TikTok data. Whereas with Facebook and TikTok, they have carte blanc and back doors to those platforms. Google, too.

[oldsoftie]

128. Not the NSA, the fucking CCP. You're simply not paying attention to the FACTS

Look up the 60 Minutes story on the danger to children. Read the article I linked. Read the DoD report on it. Why is it prohibited from all govt phones? Many States as well? Because the CCP gets ALL your info on your phone; your personal history. Your passwords, authentication codes etc. How blind are you?
And as I said before, if its SO harmless why cant Chinese citizens use it?

[LuvLoogie]

130. Not the NSA? It's the internet!

Spooks from every nation and corporation know what you ate for breakfast and know when you poop it out.

Privacy?! LOL

Again the the danger to children is the same on any social media platform.

TPTB want to shut it down because they can't control it. They don't like the viral exposing of their shit.

I ain't ascared of China. The fucking GOP is a bigger threat! And their fucking God Nazis are a bigger threat to children than TikTok! By fucking far!

[oldsoftie]

137. In my work with kids I've seen what it does.

There are MANY studies/reports/evidence of just what this app does that others DONT do.
The CCP works every. minute of every day to destabilize the US; TikTok is one of their tools.
Yes the trump cult is a danger. BOTH things can be true at the same time
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/tiktok-pushes-potentially-harmful-content-to-users-as-often-as-every-39-seconds-study/


"TikTok recommends self-harm and eating disorder content to some users within minutes of joining the platform, according to a new report published Wednesday by the Center for Countering Digital Hate (CCDH).

The new study had researchers set up TikTok accounts posing as 13-year-old users interested in content about body image and mental health. It found that within as few as 2.6 minutes after joining the app, TikTok's algorithm recommended suicidal content. The report showed that eating disorder content was recommended within as few as 8 minutes."

[Pretty Fly]

55. Yes. Your feed is generated by an algorithm.

If you're seeing nothing but right-wing tiktoks, that means you're engaging with them somehow, likely via liking a video.

You can also just click that you're not interested in that video and it'll begin to filter out similar videos.

Like tiktok or not but it's probably the most intuitive algorithm for content that I've ever experienced on social media. My feed is tailor-made to my interests. I rarely ever get a pro-Trump video on my for you page.

So, that's a you problem I'm afraid.

[Omnipresent]

60. I'm a subconsciously secret trump supporter?

[Pretty Fly]

82. You tell me?

There has to be a reason you're seeing only pro-MAGA tiktoks. That or you're exaggerating and don't really use tiktok. Because if you're seeing pro-Trump stuff, it's because you're engaging with it. That's how the algorithm works. And if you don't believe me, I can record my fyp as I swipe through a hundred tiktoks. I'd be surprised if ONE was pro-Trump.

Pro-Palestine? Yes.

Pro-leftist? Probably.

But I get a lot of DNC and Biden defending tiktoks. Because that's what I engage with.

[Omnipresent]

93. No, the content loads up as pro trump, not Biden.

I probably watch one at first, for a few seconds too long, and the app thought i liked the content.

[Pretty Fly]

138. And that's my point: it's a you problem.

I don't mean to sound like a jerk, and that's not my intent, but you literally get the feed you tailor to yourself. So, you could be on tiktok and not come across any Biden/Trump videos. My friend's fyp is 100% different than mine, She doesn't do politics so she rarely gets political tiktoks.

Regardless, in a close election, every vote matters and Biden absolutely risks turning off some voters with this bill. It won't gain him any voters, tho. No one is going to vote Biden because he banned tiktok.

How many voters does it turn off, though? That's the question.

[Autumn]

76. You are so right, I never see anything on there but my interests. I never see

anything about Trump anymore. If these people are seeing Trump shit they are looking for it.

[Pretty Fly]

83. Absolutely. I might get a stray MAGA tiktok every once in a while but I just say I'm not interested.

[Pretty Fly]

47. That says more about you I think.

I rarely come across Trump content and when I do, it's often someone stitching a tiktok to fact check their claims.

[Omnipresent]

50. You need to get out more.

[Pretty Fly]

53. I mean you're the one who seems to be getting all Trump content.

Sounds like you should take your own advice mate.

[Omnipresent]

59. You can't live in a glass bubble.

It’s streaming content on TikTok.

[Bettie]

62. I see virtually none of that

I see liberal content, recipes (both good and terrifying), people from other countries trying food here, cat/dog rescue stories, and a bunch of D&D content. OH, and a bunch of smartass Gen X people along with a bit of delightfully random stuff.

It's all about what you interact with.

If I get a right winger, I just flip on past and I don't see it again.

And I'm no kid...actually, few on DU are young people.

[Pretty Fly]

46. Then we've lost. There's a reason Biden's campaign is on tiktok.

The campaign clearly sees the value in using it.

[oldsoftie]

105. China & Russia want trump elected

[DemocratInPa]

6. WOW..

If this is true, Good Bye Joe...

I hate to be the one, but with him losing support among Gen Z, this will put them over the edge not to show up in November.

[Kaleva]

16. It's okay with me if they fuck themselves

I don't think we should associate with or try to have a dialogue with those who will consider Tic Tok to be a deal breaker. People so short sighted and shallow are not worth the effort

[LuvLoogie]

29. This would be more like the Dems fucking themselves

[NavyDem]

39. They aren't Dems.

Many of them make it a the focal point of their content.

[LuvLoogie]

44. You're focusing on political identity.

I'm talking of the TikTok community as a whole. The artists, the cooks, the craftsmen, the gardeners, the people with disabilities, the musicians, the poets, the social justice lgbtq, people of color, indigenous, the emotionally/mentally struggling people sharing their challenges and feelings--the very diversity of humanity the Dems claim to promote.

The Dems are making themselves out to be reactionary political panhandlers on this one.

[NavyDem]

49. My Point...

Is that I follow exactly those types of creators, and a lot of them also create on other platforms as well. That includes X, YouTube (The only platform I create on), and others. To Me, TikTok is a fucking wasteland, minus the 100 or so creators I follow. I don't waste my time trying to create there because for my niche (non-political) it is straight garbage.

As far as reactionary, I see a bunch of kids that want to take their ball and go home. I say let them. When the usher in another Trump presidency, I won't give them a damn ounce of sympathy.

My field of fucks to give is now barren.

[Kaleva]

40. Catastrophic climate change will get some of them ..

and make life extremely hard for others. That is their fate. But if you want to have a dialogue with those who think Tic Toc is of the utmost importance, you are free to do so. I'm not going to bother.

[LuvLoogie]

48. OK

[womanofthehills]

91. Thousands of Americans make their living from TicToc

Lots of handicapped people do.

You can watch lots of influencers go from living in a car or small apt to moving to a really nice place - with their money earned on TicToc.

So many stories of people’s lives. Pretty young girls with no legs, no arms, stage 4 cancers, severely deformed babies, etc etc.

A women on TicToc had triplets & her followers sent her cribs, baby clothes etc. it’s another whole world over there.

I don’t know why you are connecting TicToc to climate change. The EPA relaxed regulations for oil & gas drilling & now the Permian Basin in Texas & NM is pulling in billions of dollars while polluting southern NM & SW Texas big time. What’s unbelievable- 85% of Permian Basin production is going over seas. This stuff has nothing to do with TicToc.

[Kaleva]

92. China produces as much greenhouse gases...

as the rest of the industrial nations combined and that includes the US.

It's a matter of priorities.

I just don't think it's worthwhile to have a dialogue with people who place access to TicToc above responding and preparing for the coming worldwide catastrophy.

Gen Z is going to suffer immensely in the near future. That is their fate.

[oldsoftie]

126. Use Instagram. TikTok is a national security threat & a danger to kids.

Watch the 60 minutes story on it. Read the DoD report on it.
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2023/apr/04/how-tiktoks-algorithm-exploits-the-vulnerability-of-children

[Elessar Zappa]

18. I change my mind on this all the time.

I can see both sides of the issue.

[DemocratInPa]

10. I can't believe this..

I get aid for Ukraine is important, but it's almost like they are putting November on the line to get it done, which is crazy..

Dems are just not smart here and getting bad advice..

This will as bad or worst then Defund the Police.

[oldsoftie]

106. TikTok isnt allowed on govt phones. Many states have done the same.

Its a SECURITY RISK because its directly tied to the CCP
Anything you do on TikTok you can do on Instagram

[ripcord]

13. As long as TikTok has to turn over all information it has collected to the Chinese government this is the right decision

Sometimes the President has to make tough choices like denying the masses their opium.

[DemocratInPa]

17. Make sure you explain that to me two kids who use..

TikTok and Snap only.. They were mad when it was talked about and I am sure if this becomes law, they won't vote.. I am also sure there are millions of others like them out there.

[ripcord]

22. So lawmakers should be more interested in keeping their positions than in doing what is right?

That helped get us where we are now.

[DemocratInPa]

26. But what is right about this??

Please tell me..

Repubs wanted to do this in 2020 and Dems were against it, what has changed?

Progressive Dems and Gen Are going to hate this so much.. It's going to kill us.

[2naSalit]

58. So...

They are going to throw a fit because they can't take the time to understand why this is necessary?

Sounds like some of that good ol''merikin exceptionalism right there.

[DemocratInPa]

72. Then don't cry, when A lot of Young voters don't..

in November...

Gen Z for change already pushing the ideas of staying home..

This is bad folks.

[uponit7771]

113. What is right is not allowing a Chinese SOE to own us consumer data right? Because we sure the

... Can't own any Chinese consumer data as a outsider of China.

At minimum this is an unfair trade practice

[DemocratInPa]

31. and.. They can do what they want..

But be prepare for the consequences.. You can't do this and then expect them to be out in full force in November.

They are already pissed about Israel/Gaza..

[Bettie]

64. In what sense is it "doing what is right?"

Do you want all social media gone? Or just the one young people are using?

[ripcord]

65. Just the ones that are required to the information they collect with the Chinese government

[uponit7771]

114. What about bite dance being owned by the Chinese government Do people not understand?

Putin and the Chinese leader Xi are not effing around with their authoritarianism, why would we want more of that in the United States?

[oldsoftie]

108. So screw national security we want votes.

Ask them why they cant post their stupid videos on Instagram.

[Beausoleil]

23. And as long as Tik Tok has the ability to use location tracking

To send targeted propaganda to minors as they did with the original "Tik Tok will be banned if you don't call your congressperson right now" messaging.
To me, that is scarier than the volume of personal info the CCP can vacuum up.

[uponit7771]

112. +1, people don't understand. Bite dance is a Chinese SOE

[BannonsLiver]

14. Glad people aren't overreacting.

[LuvLoogie]

30. This sounds like climate change denial

[BannonsLiver]

32. You equate the two?

Interesting. I’m going to pass on that comparison, but good luck with it.

[LuvLoogie]

37. Deny away

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_climate

[BannonsLiver]

38. So you believe the TikTok ban is equally important as climate change.

Here again, I can’t agree. I think climate change is more important than TikTok. But that’s just me. You don’t agree, and that’s fine. I’m sure if/when it’s banned you will still be able to find cat videos.

[LuvLoogie]

41. I'm saying your denial sounds like climate change denial

It has all of the same characteristics.

[BannonsLiver]

43. Ah. Thanks for the clarification.

That and $6 will get you a cup of coffee. I sure hope your day gets better though.

[LuvLoogie]

45. OK

[oldsoftie]

124. OMG how is it people HERE dont know the facts about TikTok?

Apparently the CCP is making a lot more progress than they thought possible.

[BannonsLiver]

125. It's not about the youth vote

These folks have become addicted to cat videos and can’t stand the thought of not being able to see them.

[WarGamer]

20. The GOP has set a trap... if Biden signs it, the youth vote gets pissed.

Trump comes out and says "I'll get TikTok back..."

Self inflicted wound.

[BannonsLiver]

25. It's a trap.

[DemocratInPa]

28. Exactly..

Trump probably has someone that will buy it.. Give him a week after it gets banned and he will be campaigning on it.

[Tribetime]

70. 100% correct young voters will be pissed

[FelineOverlord]

71. Steve Mnuchin

Announced he was forming a group to buy it.

That was in March. Haven’t heard anything since then.

https://www.cnbc.com/2024/03/14/former-treasury-secretary-mnuchin-is-putting-together-an-investor-group-to-buy-tiktok.html

[WarGamer]

80. He'll wait til after November to help Trump.

[BComplex]

34. I wish they could ban russian propaganda on fux, OAN, etc.

TikTok is Chinese infiltrated, Fux, OAN, ANN, are all Russian infiltrated. Why can't we ban those?

[LuvLoogie]

56. They are American companies!

[Autumn]

78. Indeed they are American companies! Pushing lies about Democrats and reading

Russian propaganda scripts to the ignorant masses.

[LuvLoogie]

79. But, but patriotism and stuff.

Melon Usk should buy TikTok and call it Z

[BComplex]

96. Ha!

[progressoid]

42. Foot meet bullet.

[MistakenLamb]

57. Some of you so quick to pull out a white flag to Trump over a potential tik tok ban

You really are the best possible thing for a Trump campaign with your hair on fire doomerism its sad

[LuvLoogie]

100. It's not a white flag. It's a warning.

It will be like clear cutting prarie to make room for alfalfa.

[themaguffin]

66. Good.

[themaguffin]

97. What the fuck? JFC

[uponit7771]

116. Trump fans love dictatorships like China literally sending propaganda to children through tiktok

[rockfordfile]

77. I agree.

Something is wrong if you can't live without tiktok.

[LuvLoogie]

102. It's not the app. It's the content...

and intertwined relationships and interactive communities people have built over the years. 10s of millions of Americans use this app. It is unique in its function and openness. People have actually held face to face meetups and actions from the relationships started on the app.

You'd be breaking that all apart. I don't think you get it.

[Tribetime]

69. If we want to turn off the young voters proceed

This will end in disaster for us

[DemocratInPa]

75. My daughter is at Penn State and I talked to her about 30 minutes ago...

She was suppose to come home this weekend, but isn't, but word spread up there fast and it was talked about and people are pissed.

For the record, she was 50/50 on voting for Biden due to his continue support for Israel against Gaza, but my son who is a Grad Student at RMU and phone banked for Biden in 2020 is not voting this year he said.

This is going to be bad.

[uponit7771]

118. If those sites are owned by Chinese state-owned Enterprise like bite dance then or course

... please proceed.

Xi and Putrid and Bibis of the world don't need more information about us citizens even less children

[ripcord]

90. TikTok is an arm of the Chinese government

I am questioning the intelligence of these people opposed to the bill.

[uponit7771]

119. +1, this looks White fud on du right now the number of people who don't know what the central issue is in this thread

[David__77]

95. Insanity.

[uponit7771]

120. ByteDance is. Chinese SOE!!! Why give children information to Putin BB or any other dictator?

[Docreed2003]

103. You just knew Johnson wouldn't pass Ukraine aid for nothing

Anyone who thinks banning TikTok in an election year is a good idea is woefully mistaken.

[oldsoftie]

104. GOOD! Its not. only a security threat its killing our kids

Its algorithms push these stupid "challenges" to kids.
It pushes dangerous eating disorder videos to anorexics.
It pushes false news for people searching for REAL news
It pushes kids, especially girls, to suicide

If there's nothing wrong with it then why cant the Chinese people use it?

[uponit7771]

122. +2, people don't understand. Tick tock is banned in China

[LuvLoogie]

131. LOL. It's banned in Russia and Iran, too.

And Afghanistan! And Somalia!

LOL!

[uponit7771]

134. Cause dictators understand how dictators are not to be trusted