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Nictuku

(4,254 posts)
Tue Apr 23, 2024, 03:04 PM Apr 2024

Ukraine Aid Bill Passes the Senate!!!! On the way to the President's Desk!!!

Absolutely Amazing!!! Thank God.

Edit Add In: If you are wondering where I got this, I was watching C-SPAN. They had a Cloture vote (I think it was 80 to 19? something like that), and since the bill had previously passed the Senate, what came back from the House are considered 'amendments' and the senate voted on those amendments, and thus the bill was passed.

Very surprised there are no articles about it yet.

Additional Edit: I was wrong, not actually passed yet. I apologize for jumping the gun. Schumer confused me with his victory speech thanking everyone, saying it was on the way to the president's desk, and I did read somewhere that the senate had already passed the bill and what came back from the house was considered amendments, and the senate voted for those amendments (and no need to further vote on the bill)


I WAS WRONG. I apologize.

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Ukraine Aid Bill Passes the Senate!!!! On the way to the President's Desk!!! (Original Post) Nictuku Apr 2024 OP
The bill? Or cloture? getagrip_already Apr 2024 #1
Yeah, I was expecting another vote on the actual Bill Nictuku Apr 2024 #2
Cloture is a procedural vote to overcome fillibuster getagrip_already Apr 2024 #6
Thank God, indeed. wryter2000 Apr 2024 #3
Thank you, Senate. republianmushroom Apr 2024 #4
I was wrong Nictuku Apr 2024 #5
I don't think it's passed yet. They voted to end debate. LeftInTX Apr 2024 #7
I think you may be right ..... Nictuku Apr 2024 #11
They only passed a cloture vote so far, not the final vote getagrip_already Apr 2024 #8
I think they're debating the vote vote now blogslug Apr 2024 #9
There are articles about the vote on cloture. None on passage because passage hasn't happened yet. onenote Apr 2024 #10
I agree Nictuku Apr 2024 #12
Procedures procedures procedures calimary Apr 2024 #16
Thank Goodness bdamomma Apr 2024 #13
Well, everyone has gotta give a sermon before they vote...LOL LeftInTX Apr 2024 #14
Hey, THANKS for being on watch. calimary Apr 2024 #15
They're giving sermons before they vote. zzzzz LeftInTX Apr 2024 #17
Goes back to the days when some votes probably were changed during this process ITAL Apr 2024 #18
What is funny is they are talking to an empty room for the most part Nictuku Apr 2024 #19
Thank God. I just hope it's not too late. nt Tarheel_Dem Apr 2024 #20

Nictuku

(4,254 posts)
2. Yeah, I was expecting another vote on the actual Bill
Tue Apr 23, 2024, 03:09 PM
Apr 2024

I guess I'm not nerdy enough to understand all of the Senates procedures... even though I watch C-SPAN.
They had a Cloture vote (I think it was 80 to 19? something like that), and since the bill had previously passed the Senate, what came back from the House are considered 'amendments' and the senate voted on those amendments, and thus the bill was passed.

getagrip_already

(17,761 posts)
6. Cloture is a procedural vote to overcome fillibuster
Tue Apr 23, 2024, 03:18 PM
Apr 2024

A single senator can filibuster a bill, and then it takes a cloture vote to end debate and move to amendments and voting. It takes 60 votes to end debate via cloture.

Cloture does not pass the bill.

A vote on each bill will now have to be done, along with any amendments, before it can be sent to the president.

But with 80 votes, it will absolutely pass. The only question is will any mods to Israeli arms or aid make it in. There is a push to cut out a un group infiltrated by hamas and put trip wires on military aid. We will see if any amendments make it.

Nictuku

(4,254 posts)
11. I think you may be right .....
Tue Apr 23, 2024, 03:28 PM
Apr 2024

Senators are talking about the bill now on the floor. And that is what I thought was going to happen until Schumer was up there and indicated it was headed to the President's desk.... Very confusing.

So..... I will admit I jumped the gun if that is what happens. Either way, it is pretty sure.

blogslug

(38,903 posts)
9. I think they're debating the vote vote now
Tue Apr 23, 2024, 03:25 PM
Apr 2024

Tommy Stupidville is blah blah-ing right now about it.

onenote

(45,357 posts)
10. There are articles about the vote on cloture. None on passage because passage hasn't happened yet.
Tue Apr 23, 2024, 03:25 PM
Apr 2024

The OP is mistaken in suggesting the bill has passed and is on its way to the President. That very well could happen before the end of the day, but it hasn't happened yes and criticizing the media for not reporting that something has happened when it hasn't happened is something the OP might want to reconsider.

Nictuku

(4,254 posts)
12. I agree
Tue Apr 23, 2024, 03:29 PM
Apr 2024

I might have been too quick. That was my position originally, until Schumer was saying it was on the way to the President's desk, and thanking everyone involved.

Very confusing. I think however, that another vote must happen on the actual bill now, and that is what they are talking about now on the senate floor.

calimary

(86,767 posts)
16. Procedures procedures procedures
Tue Apr 23, 2024, 05:59 PM
Apr 2024

I guess they're a necessary evil. Not sure which word packs the biggest punch, though: "necessary" or "evil"?

LeftInTX

(32,761 posts)
14. Well, everyone has gotta give a sermon before they vote...LOL
Tue Apr 23, 2024, 05:34 PM
Apr 2024

zzzzzz
As my mom used to say: Some people like to hear themselves talk!

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calimary

(86,767 posts)
15. Hey, THANKS for being on watch.
Tue Apr 23, 2024, 05:56 PM
Apr 2024

I was looking for links but evidently nothing's on it yet.

LeftInTX

(32,761 posts)
17. They're giving sermons before they vote. zzzzz
Tue Apr 23, 2024, 06:04 PM
Apr 2024

Lindsey Graham brought posters...He's been at it for about 1/2 now....

Why do they do this????? Is this a rule?? LOL They like to hear themselves talk!

ITAL

(1,072 posts)
18. Goes back to the days when some votes probably were changed during this process
Tue Apr 23, 2024, 06:13 PM
Apr 2024

Think 200 or more years ago when you had folks like Henry Clay or Daniel Webster take the floor and speak for hours.

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