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SocialDemocrat61

(7,648 posts)
Tue Apr 23, 2024, 07:53 PM Apr 2024

Ari Melber is out again and

Katie Phang is doing a great job filling in. And no silly Rap segments.

When will the powers that be at NBC realize it’s time to get rid of Melber and give the show to Phang?

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Ari Melber is out again and (Original Post) SocialDemocrat61 Apr 2024 OP
It's always a good day when Katie Phang subs for anyone, especially Ari! 50 Shades Of Blue Apr 2024 #1
She's great XanaDUer2 Apr 2024 #2
Those kids and their rap! Hassin Bin Sober Apr 2024 #3
I have no problem with rap SocialDemocrat61 Apr 2024 #4
It's also the awkwardness by which he does it. Earth-shine Apr 2024 #12
Morning Joe does all the time with classic rock marmar Apr 2024 #17
That show should have been canceled SocialDemocrat61 Apr 2024 #19
I used to like him. I used to defend him. But he's become so arrogant that he thought giving Avenatti a hlthe2b Apr 2024 #5
I like both of them. Nt spooky3 Apr 2024 #6
I prefer Ari over Katie PatSeg Apr 2024 #11
Good points but this brings to mind Howard Dean's comments after he guest hosted. spooky3 Apr 2024 #13
Oh yes PatSeg Apr 2024 #15
Managing the clock--it's amazing how they can do that spooky3 Apr 2024 #21
I agree PatSeg Apr 2024 #23
He was the wittiest. Nt spooky3 Apr 2024 #24
oh I think ari melber giving free commerical time to his idols is cute fluffery and shows how msongs Apr 2024 #7
I really like. Ari... Hikerchick57 Apr 2024 #8
I like Melber, but Mr.Bill Apr 2024 #9
Why? JustAnotherGen Apr 2024 #32
That is very interesting & I just learned a thing or two. TYVM for your take on Ari & his show. Hekate Apr 2024 #38
I have my complaints too JustAnotherGen Apr 2024 #41
For the same reason that Mr.Bill Apr 2024 #43
I wonder if he stepped in it. SleeplessinSoCal Apr 2024 #10
I think he took off work WENSTJDON Apr 2024 #18
It's Passover Hekate Apr 2024 #40
I appreciate both of them. Celerity Apr 2024 #14
Big fan of Ari Stuckinthebush Apr 2024 #16
Ari needs to go. Paladin Apr 2024 #20
Or maybe Ari needs a better producer PatSeg Apr 2024 #25
Well said. (nt) Paladin Apr 2024 #44
hey you kids get off my lawn! jcgoldie Apr 2024 #22
He doesn't just quote rap lyrics SocialDemocrat61 Apr 2024 #26
Good point PatSeg Apr 2024 #27
Ari is fine by us. LakeArenal Apr 2024 #28
I would watch MSNBC for 3 hours gab13by13 Apr 2024 #29
I like Ari unweird Apr 2024 #30
Post removed Post removed Apr 2024 #31
There's nothing hip about cable news regardless of age group. BannonsLiver Apr 2024 #36
It's just the "get off my lawn" sounding posts. Makes me laugh. Srkdqltr Apr 2024 #37
I'm a fan of Ari and his show. Drum Apr 2024 #33
Ari's out for Passover, & MSNBC moves its people around all the time. That way we get to know them. Hekate Apr 2024 #34
How about giving Katie Phang Andrea Mitchell's slot? OAITW r.2.0 Apr 2024 #35
Agreed Rebl2 Apr 2024 #39
I really enjoy Ari chillfactor Apr 2024 #42

SocialDemocrat61

(7,648 posts)
4. I have no problem with rap
Tue Apr 23, 2024, 08:03 PM
Apr 2024

It just has no place in a news show.
No other host does segments about their favorite music genre.

 

Earth-shine

(4,044 posts)
12. It's also the awkwardness by which he does it.
Tue Apr 23, 2024, 11:07 PM
Apr 2024

The show is pacing along, then suddenly everything stops. He makes his corny reference. Then, the show has to start moving again.

hlthe2b

(113,972 posts)
5. I used to like him. I used to defend him. But he's become so arrogant that he thought giving Avenatti a
Tue Apr 23, 2024, 08:06 PM
Apr 2024

forum--ESPECIALLY NOW-- and behind bars was a good idea.

I'm not calling for his head, but my tolerance for him and his antics has dramatically diminished.

PatSeg

(53,214 posts)
11. I prefer Ari over Katie
Tue Apr 23, 2024, 10:55 PM
Apr 2024

But I could do without all the pop music and rap refences. I don't watch news for that sort of thing and rap lyrics sound really weird coming out of his mouth.

When Phang first started to appear on MSNBC, she rubbed me the wrong way. She talked too fast and often cut people off. She has toned it down quite a bit, but I haven't gotten past my few first impressions yet. I'm sure I will eventually. I prefer hosts who at least make the appearance of listening to other people instead of just thinking what they are going to say next.

Now that I think about it, Ari isn't a terribly good listener either. He has an awful resting face with his eyes constantly shifting about. It is really distracting and unprofessional.

spooky3

(38,634 posts)
13. Good points but this brings to mind Howard Dean's comments after he guest hosted.
Tue Apr 23, 2024, 11:41 PM
Apr 2024

He said it was one of the hardest things he had ever done. You have to avoid stumbling over words, saying “uh” and “you know”, etc., while listening to your guests and to the producer speaking in your ear—and looking good in your heavy makeup and hairspray. And some nights breaking news interrupts, disrupting all their preparations. People like Nicolle Wallace make it seem so easy.

PatSeg

(53,214 posts)
15. Oh yes
Wed Apr 24, 2024, 09:32 AM
Apr 2024

That dawns on me frequently, especially when I'm watching Ari Melber. It does look like a very stressful job and I can imagine a producer speaking in their ear. Like you said, Nicole Wallace makes it look so easy. Same with Chris Hayes and Brian Williams (I really miss Brian Williams). Plus they look like they are giving their guests their undivided attention and really listening, even though I know someone could be talking in their ear.

Ari seems to be good at doing a monologue, but he has a hard time with guests and transitions, constantly aware of the clock and his producer. I would have thought that by now, he would be better at this.

Oh well, I know I couldn't do it. Kudos to those who master it.

spooky3

(38,634 posts)
21. Managing the clock--it's amazing how they can do that
Wed Apr 24, 2024, 10:57 AM
Apr 2024

Down to the last second, especially with guests who may not watch the time.

PatSeg

(53,214 posts)
23. I agree
Wed Apr 24, 2024, 11:14 AM
Apr 2024

I am in awe of them being able to do that and a handful of them look so laid back. I think Brian Williams did it the best. His body language, facial expressions, and voice all were so relaxed, plus he managed to effortlessly sneak some dry witticisms in there now and then. "Senator-John-no-relation-Kennedy" or "Translated from the original Russian for our audience". Never missed a beat.

msongs

(73,754 posts)
7. oh I think ari melber giving free commerical time to his idols is cute fluffery and shows how
Tue Apr 23, 2024, 08:16 PM
Apr 2024

insignificant he is as a legitmate news agent

JustAnotherGen

(38,054 posts)
32. Why?
Wed Apr 24, 2024, 11:34 AM
Apr 2024

I appreciate the cultural context he provides.


https://www.forbes.com/sites/jacquelineschneider/2022/06/03/ari-melber-on-the-cultural-production-of-news/?sh=5f87ae0b18b2

As the longest-running 6pm ET weekly show in MSNBC’s 25-year history, The Beat reaches over 1 million viewers each time it goes live along with its expanded online audiences across Facebook, Instagram, TikTok, Twitter, and YouTube – each platform complete with its own curated The Beat cultural content. “After personal human relationships – love and family and friends, culture to me is what makes life interesting and fun and what enriches us as humans in society – that’s what we bond over,” expresses Melber, “if you look at the political eras we have been living through, they are deeply tied to different pockets and aspirations of the culture that people want in America.”


I'm a 51 year old African American woman.

I sat through The Greatest Generation talks from Tom Brokaw for years . . . one big cultural reference.

But from where I sit - Boomers are the Greatest Generation - because they moved the political dial for me. You see that recognition from my peers (age) when he has them on, and when he references them.

Dirt off my Shoulder is almost a cultural anthem for those of us who came up through leadership in private enterprise during the 2000's and 2010's. It might not be relatable to GenZ, or white Americans in my age group, or my Mom's generation (Boomer). . . but I watch the show consistently, and when I had a 55 mile commute to/from Secaucus NJ and got out of work at 6 PM -Ari kept me company.

I also really appreciate that he's able to get right wing nut jobs that nobody else outside of the Right Wing news media can get. He also holds them to account, admits when he's wrong, and opens things up for discussion.

And a small chuckle - I think Navarro's whining on the Ari Melber show is what did him in criminally. Like - he should have known better, but Ari just let him talk!

Hekate

(100,133 posts)
38. That is very interesting & I just learned a thing or two. TYVM for your take on Ari & his show.
Wed Apr 24, 2024, 11:53 AM
Apr 2024

The complaints about MSNBC & its people are chronic here, and I don’t really get it, but so it goes.

JustAnotherGen

(38,054 posts)
41. I have my complaints too
Wed Apr 24, 2024, 12:24 PM
Apr 2024

But I tend to just them to myself. Not a fan of Andrea Mitchell or Chris Hayes . . . so I don't watch them.

Mr.Bill

(24,906 posts)
43. For the same reason that
Wed Apr 24, 2024, 12:47 PM
Apr 2024

Walter Cronkite didn't quote the Rolling Stones on his show.

I watch Melber to hear about the news, not music.

SleeplessinSoCal

(10,412 posts)
10. I wonder if he stepped in it.
Tue Apr 23, 2024, 10:31 PM
Apr 2024

It's very strange that he is missing these first days of testimony. He's the MSNBC chief legal correspondent.

Stuckinthebush

(11,203 posts)
16. Big fan of Ari
Wed Apr 24, 2024, 09:47 AM
Apr 2024

and I like his quirky rap segments. I'm not a huge fan of Katie - her style feels very local news-ish to me. But to each their own!

 

Paladin

(32,354 posts)
20. Ari needs to go.
Wed Apr 24, 2024, 10:15 AM
Apr 2024

Not just for the rap music fixation, but for the piss-poor way he treats the guests on his show---constant, clumsy interruptions. MSNBC could do a lot better with someone new; Katie Phang is a huge improvement.

PatSeg

(53,214 posts)
25. Or maybe Ari needs a better producer
Wed Apr 24, 2024, 11:17 AM
Apr 2024

He brings a lot of legal expertise to the show, but his presentation is often awkward and unprofessional.

jcgoldie

(12,046 posts)
22. hey you kids get off my lawn!
Wed Apr 24, 2024, 11:04 AM
Apr 2024

I like Katie Phang but people on DU bitching because Ari likes to quote rap lyrics is just boresome old people shit.

SocialDemocrat61

(7,648 posts)
26. He doesn't just quote rap lyrics
Wed Apr 24, 2024, 11:19 AM
Apr 2024

He inserts rap references into serious interviews at inappropriate times. No other cable news host does that.

PatSeg

(53,214 posts)
27. Good point
Wed Apr 24, 2024, 11:19 AM
Apr 2024

It is a bit irritating, but not a huge deal. I often fast-forward through them.

gab13by13

(32,323 posts)
29. I would watch MSNBC for 3 hours
Wed Apr 24, 2024, 11:22 AM
Apr 2024

if Katie took Ari's job.

Bothsider Ari not only goes out of his way to give equal time to Magats he talks so long, in circles, by the time he's done asking the question the guest forgets what the question was.

His sentences are longer than St. Paul's.

unweird

(3,296 posts)
30. I like Ari
Wed Apr 24, 2024, 11:25 AM
Apr 2024

And the rap segments are great for exposing cultural expressions seldom shared in the mainstream. Which I also like and appreciate.

Response to SocialDemocrat61 (Original post)

Hekate

(100,133 posts)
34. Ari's out for Passover, & MSNBC moves its people around all the time. That way we get to know them.
Wed Apr 24, 2024, 11:38 AM
Apr 2024

I’m fine w Ari — and here’s a shocker: I mute him for the stuff I’m not interested in.

Another shocker: I record Katie Phang because her show’s not in my time zone.

OAITW r.2.0

(32,141 posts)
35. How about giving Katie Phang Andrea Mitchell's slot?
Wed Apr 24, 2024, 11:39 AM
Apr 2024

I don't listen to rap, but I think Ari draws in people that otherwise wouldn't tune in for it.

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