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Tommy Carcetti

(44,499 posts)
Tue Apr 23, 2024, 08:08 PM Apr 2024

The thing to understand about the National Enquirer...

…is you didn’t have to buy it to read it.

You didn’t even have to consider buying it to read it.

All you had to do was stand in the grocery store checkout aisle and there it was, with pictures and big headlines promising huge exclusive stories.

So even if you were just standing there, the chances it might subliminally affect you are notable.

Hillary Clinton, a crook?

Hillary Clinton, deathly ill?

Donald Trump, the victim of a set up?

All of these things could be communicated without even an actual word being said.

And given the margin in the swing states in 2016, the subliminal impact of tabloid headlines on possible voters was much more substantial than you or I might want to admit.

ON EDIT: What Trump sought to use the Enquirer for as free advertising and disinformation was the same as what the Russians did for him with social media. Two different types of media but same intended result.

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The thing to understand about the National Enquirer... (Original Post) Tommy Carcetti Apr 2024 OP
Gotta wonder what the rise of self checkout did to their business? n/t CincyDem Apr 2024 #1
That's the best thing about self checkout..LOL LeftInTX Apr 2024 #7
That was a very good point - the Enquirer is the thing you had to see at the checkout. forgotmylogin Apr 2024 #41
I've noticed that too. It seems to have gone back to People and Time etc where I live. LeftInTX Apr 2024 #48
But no more UFO stories of rural people being experimented on by aliens? Ah! The good ole days. Wonder Why Apr 2024 #2
What happened to Nessie anyways? n/t ArkansasDemocrat1 Apr 2024 #18
and no more Elvis sightings either DBoon Apr 2024 #30
The National Enquirer was a gossip tabloid involving real people. Tommy Carcetti Apr 2024 #33
Only people in their radical right mind believe the Enquirer. Wonder Why Apr 2024 #38
HEY! Bat Boy was a totally real thing! Ligyron Apr 2024 #42
I honestly think claudette Apr 2024 #3
Agreed nikatnyte Apr 2024 #19
The magazine exists to take advantage of people who do not examine the sources too closely, who are easily manipulated Ford_Prefect Apr 2024 #20
Are you referring to celebrity gossip tabloids like the National Enquirer? Tommy Carcetti Apr 2024 #35
one suspects people who look at that rag have already made up their minds on most issues nt msongs Apr 2024 #4
Not necessarily Tommy Carcetti Apr 2024 #8
That was a strong intent. LiberalFighter Apr 2024 #5
A sad fact, well exposed. OAITW r.2.0 Apr 2024 #6
For what it's worth, one of so-called legal experts on tv said defense will show N Enquirer Silent Type Apr 2024 #9
I always thought there was this percentage of people CanonRay Apr 2024 #10
TFG had his own "fake news" outlet. Sneederbunk Apr 2024 #11
Those stories also make their way into the msm as they feel they need to cover it or respond to it. unblock Apr 2024 #12
Batboy. Igel Apr 2024 #13
To be honest gay texan Apr 2024 #27
Batboy is alive and real in Florida! Blue Owl Apr 2024 #32
This: "What Trump sought to use the Enquirer for as free advertising and disinformation was the same as what the Martin68 Apr 2024 #14
When I was in college back in the 1960s HUAJIAO Apr 2024 #15
I'm always surprised by the number of people... surfered Apr 2024 #16
Bingo TC DENVERPOPS Apr 2024 #17
I turned against the Nation Enquirer when they plastered pictures of Princess Diana's death scene...Horrible CarolinaNC Apr 2024 #21
I miss Weekly World News at the checkout... catbyte Apr 2024 #22
Love me some Bat Boy....LOL diverdownjt Apr 2024 #24
Last I heard he's trying to attack Medicare and Social Security Blue Owl Apr 2024 #31
Bat Boy looks like Rudy Giuliani as a child. nt PufPuf23 Apr 2024 #44
Nailed it orangecrush Apr 2024 #23
Aliens!! The #1 topic WarGamer Apr 2024 #25
The National Enquirer is a celebrity gossip tabloid involving stories about real people. Tommy Carcetti Apr 2024 #34
always worth a laugh in line at the store WarGamer Apr 2024 #36
Great take TC. NoMoreRepugs Apr 2024 #26
I don't think the NI is much like if was in the old days. captain queeg Apr 2024 #28
Seth Abramson points to Saudi funding of the catch-and-kill stories. summer_in_TX Apr 2024 #29
Republican OWNED Media is a "thing". live love laugh Apr 2024 #37
My mother-in-law moniss Apr 2024 #39
The cover in the check out line is what most people saw. It was always worth a chuckle. twodogsbarking Apr 2024 #40
It was always about Hillary's health. It was like having Fox News piped into the grocery store. LeftInTX Apr 2024 #49
The eyes see, the mind registers, the mindless believe sanatanadharma Apr 2024 #43
Every time Always Blue Apr 2024 #45
Once I got used to doing my own shopping as an adult, NanaCat Apr 2024 #46
Propaganda can be very subtle. Liberal In Texas Apr 2024 #47
the National Enquirer is trump mountain grammy Apr 2024 #50

forgotmylogin

(7,952 posts)
41. That was a very good point - the Enquirer is the thing you had to see at the checkout.
Wed Apr 24, 2024, 03:53 PM
Apr 2024

Trump got a ton of free advertising and "people are saying" gossip through this.

Honestly after the 2016 election, the Enquirer from what I saw completely reversed and went back to celebrity gossip only.

I've noticed most stores now don't carry as many tabloids, it's more wellness/diet/architecture/history/biography "special edition" coffee-table magazines that are less periodical and more like a softcover book.

LeftInTX

(34,302 posts)
48. I've noticed that too. It seems to have gone back to People and Time etc where I live.
Wed Apr 24, 2024, 07:06 PM
Apr 2024

Lots of celebrity stuff, but I can live with that.

Wonder Why

(7,029 posts)
2. But no more UFO stories of rural people being experimented on by aliens? Ah! The good ole days.
Tue Apr 23, 2024, 08:12 PM
Apr 2024

Tommy Carcetti

(44,499 posts)
33. The National Enquirer was a gossip tabloid involving real people.
Wed Apr 24, 2024, 10:24 AM
Apr 2024

Publications like World Weekly News dealt with the sensational supernatural stuff that no one in their right mind would believe.

There's a difference.

Ligyron

(8,006 posts)
42. HEY! Bat Boy was a totally real thing!
Wed Apr 24, 2024, 05:50 PM
Apr 2024

He was gubiner of Florida before flying off to D.C. as (gulp) our Senator.

 

claudette

(5,455 posts)
3. I honestly think
Tue Apr 23, 2024, 08:13 PM
Apr 2024

the magazine isn’t the problem. The problem is that there are crazy people who actually BELIEVE the junk in those magazines.

nikatnyte

(345 posts)
19. Agreed
Tue Apr 23, 2024, 10:05 PM
Apr 2024

Any rational person, by this time, looks at the National Enquirer and immediately questions their headlines. I'd never believe any of them. (Yes, yes, I know...most people aren't that rational.)

Ford_Prefect

(8,613 posts)
20. The magazine exists to take advantage of people who do not examine the sources too closely, who are easily manipulated
Tue Apr 23, 2024, 10:05 PM
Apr 2024

in the same way children can be, through emotionalized headlines and outright sensationalized lies.

They do not ask for this manipulation and do not deserve it. No more so than people with little money want a liquor store, or a gun store in their neighborhood, or a drug dealer in the building they live in.

Tommy Carcetti

(44,499 posts)
35. Are you referring to celebrity gossip tabloids like the National Enquirer?
Wed Apr 24, 2024, 10:27 AM
Apr 2024

Or the really off the wall supernatural tabloids like World Weekly News?

Because there's a difference between the two as to how plausible their stories might be.

Tommy Carcetti

(44,499 posts)
8. Not necessarily
Tue Apr 23, 2024, 08:21 PM
Apr 2024

There are a lot of casual voters who aren’t particularly ideological or deeply involved in following the news, but who still vote.

Seeing an unattractive picture of Hillary Clinton with a negative headline might be enough to plant a seed of doubt in their heads.

Seeing enough of those pictures and headlines only reinforces those doubts, even if it’s not on a conscious level.

That’s the insidious nature of what Trump was planning on in his arrangement with the Enquirer.

OAITW r.2.0

(32,159 posts)
6. A sad fact, well exposed.
Tue Apr 23, 2024, 08:14 PM
Apr 2024

I scan those and shake my head at the stupidity. Others see it and think, "yeah, that makes sense".

 

Silent Type

(12,412 posts)
9. For what it's worth, one of so-called legal experts on tv said defense will show N Enquirer
Tue Apr 23, 2024, 08:21 PM
Apr 2024

has done this before for people not remotely tied to trump. I don’t know whether that’s true or not, or even if it’s relevant.

I did a Google search and found articles like one in 2012 N Enquirer entitled, “Romney Abortion Bombshell, he got 2 mistresses pregnant.”

CanonRay

(16,171 posts)
10. I always thought there was this percentage of people
Tue Apr 23, 2024, 08:22 PM
Apr 2024

who read the Enquierer and watched pro wrestling who were on the fringe of sanity. They are now a political movement called MAGA.

unblock

(56,198 posts)
12. Those stories also make their way into the msm as they feel they need to cover it or respond to it.
Tue Apr 23, 2024, 08:57 PM
Apr 2024

And especially if Donnie then talked about it.

Igel

(37,535 posts)
13. Batboy.
Tue Apr 23, 2024, 09:04 PM
Apr 2024

Apparently some reporters were shocked by the pay-for-the-story idea.

Really? Batboy was a real thing? Uh ... full human.

Sometimes it's like they have their head under a rock. That's been dropped from dozens of meters up.

Martin68

(27,749 posts)
14. This: "What Trump sought to use the Enquirer for as free advertising and disinformation was the same as what the
Tue Apr 23, 2024, 09:25 PM
Apr 2024

Russians did for him with social media. Two different types of media but same intended result."

HUAJIAO

(2,730 posts)
15. When I was in college back in the 1960s
Tue Apr 23, 2024, 09:26 PM
Apr 2024

I once had a summer job working for a landscaping company. We landscaped/mowed the lawn for the then owner of the National Inquirer - Generoso Pope !!

surfered

(13,476 posts)
16. I'm always surprised by the number of people...
Tue Apr 23, 2024, 09:29 PM
Apr 2024

…who believe this stuff. The same people who believe professional wrestling is real.

DENVERPOPS

(13,003 posts)
17. Bingo TC
Tue Apr 23, 2024, 09:29 PM
Apr 2024

A lot of the same muck that Hitler did in his early days.......

Tell a lie, and keep repeating it.....

Take control of the Media

ETCETCETC

CarolinaNC

(151 posts)
21. I turned against the Nation Enquirer when they plastered pictures of Princess Diana's death scene...Horrible
Tue Apr 23, 2024, 10:12 PM
Apr 2024

Trump and national enquirer have been buddies. You are right, he fed them disinformation and they used it.

Tommy Carcetti

(44,499 posts)
34. The National Enquirer is a celebrity gossip tabloid involving stories about real people.
Wed Apr 24, 2024, 10:26 AM
Apr 2024

What you're thinking of are papers like the World Weekly News, which dealt with the crazy supernatural stuff like aliens and bigfoot that no one in their right mind would take seriously.

But people might take gossip about a real person seriously.

Even if it wasn't true.

captain queeg

(11,780 posts)
28. I don't think the NI is much like if was in the old days.
Tue Apr 23, 2024, 11:26 PM
Apr 2024

They got sued so many times they really toned it down.

summer_in_TX

(4,168 posts)
29. Seth Abramson points to Saudi funding of the catch-and-kill stories.
Tue Apr 23, 2024, 11:33 PM
Apr 2024



Seth Abramson reposted
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@SethAbramson
Hey, let’s hope no one asks David Pecker who was *paying* for all Trump’s catch-and-kill operations during the 2016 U.S. presidential election, because—spoiler alert!—it was the Saudis, who had cut a deal with Don Jr. to illegally interfere in the election in early August 2016.
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Seth Abramson
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MORE/ How do I know this, you wonder? Well, I’m glad you asked. I wrote all about it, with full sourcing, in a NEW YORK TIMES bestseller that was published five years ago.

Maybe people will care *now*? Or no?




Seth Abramson
@SethAbramson
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4h
You’re getting *very warm*, James.

I said that this criminal trial is very much about illegal election interference, and I meant it. Per usual, the good guys are only telling about 10% of the story in order to not ruffle feathers. But America deserves the full truth about this. x.com/JamesSNYC/stat…
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James
@JamesSNYC
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Let’s not forget that David Pecker published a glossy custom magazine without ads on Saudi Arabia that was distributed by AMI in the USA. It extolled the virtues of Saudi Arabia and its destinations. A total puff piece. Follow the money. 💰

(Link to the article about the glossy custom magazine: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna868581)




Seth Abramson
@SethAbramson
Saudi Arabia.

Once you understand that the arrangement between AMI and Trump was in fact an arrangement between AMI and Trump and MBS, you understand it all.
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@KlasfeldReports
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Trying to pierce Pecker's claim that the arrangement was mutually beneficial, ADA Steinglass notes that catch-and-kill of the alleged affairs didn't benefit AMI's magazines.

moniss

(9,056 posts)
39. My mother-in-law
Wed Apr 24, 2024, 01:39 PM
Apr 2024

used to buy a couple of the tabloids every week. She was convinced about 4 headed aliens and dogs with a head on each end. When challenged she would insist it had to be true in order for a company to print it. Good heart but susceptible mind.

sanatanadharma

(4,089 posts)
43. The eyes see, the mind registers, the mindless believe
Wed Apr 24, 2024, 06:01 PM
Apr 2024

Biggest cover story of all: 35 ways the National Enquirer's publisher boosted Donald Trump

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100218891876

Always Blue

(71 posts)
45. Every time
Wed Apr 24, 2024, 06:16 PM
Apr 2024

When I would go through checkout line I either turned them around or put other magazines in front of them.
I think that they should have been sued over the lies. Not just ignored because no one will read it.

 

NanaCat

(2,332 posts)
46. Once I got used to doing my own shopping as an adult,
Wed Apr 24, 2024, 06:27 PM
Apr 2024

I never looked at them in the checkout unless someone brought them to my attention for some reason. I'd have to think hard to know what was at the checkout at all. I was busy enough emptying the cart, getting my payment method ready, doing one last double-check of the items against my list, keeping an eye on the cashier's scans, keeping track of my kid when he was young, and so on. I didn't even notice the other junk.

Might have also helped to have shopped at military commissaries for several years during my young adult life. They didn't stock junk at the checkouts so what little of a habit I had with looking at the displays got erased, once and for all.

Of course, now I'm a curbside/delivery shopper, so even less chance that I might see any of them.

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