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Iwasthere

(3,508 posts)
Thu Apr 25, 2024, 08:40 PM Apr 2024

NOW SHOULD WE PACK THE COURT?

Would it be possible to start the process if a few repubs walked away from the House? Biden should be fuming right now. NO MORE MR NICE GUY! We are in trouble.

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NOW SHOULD WE PACK THE COURT? (Original Post) Iwasthere Apr 2024 OP
What did the Supreme Court do today? TexasDem69 Apr 2024 #1
Just their line of questioning was so ridiculous Tribetime Apr 2024 #15
They will roll on the side of obvious law then make dems feel like they were given a favor uponit7771 Apr 2024 #38
Wait until they decree Presidential Immunity C_U_L8R Apr 2024 #2
I don't particularly like the phrase "pack the court" sdfernando Apr 2024 #3
Unpack the court. It's all locked up. Needs to expand. Earth-shine Apr 2024 #19
This! Packing the court was what Mitch McConnell did Poiuyt Apr 2024 #25
As a general matter, I think more judges should be added anyway. The country legitimately needs more federal judges In It to Win It Apr 2024 #4
Why do you imagine Democrats in Congress or President Biden would support this? brooklynite Apr 2024 #5
Yep. I thought it sounded good when Buttigieg mentioned it in the run up Earthrise Apr 2024 #6
I was reluctant to agree when it was first mentioned wnylib Apr 2024 #20
You say this as if it were possible. Groundhawg Apr 2024 #7
It might be soon if the House balance shifts. wnylib Apr 2024 #21
Well, we won't Polybius Apr 2024 #24
have you forgotten Biden is against it? Groundhawg Apr 2024 #31
He does sometimes shift his perspective when a situation calls for it. wnylib Apr 2024 #32
Have you forgotten Biden is against it? Groundhawg Apr 2024 #33
I agree that currently there is nothing that we can do. wnylib Apr 2024 #34
because Biden is Awesome. he knows what's best for us. nt Groundhawg Apr 2024 #35
I agree that Biden is awesome and the best president in my lifetime. wnylib Apr 2024 #36
I Trust joe's position. nt Groundhawg Apr 2024 #37
Well, my mind is changing on the matter iemanja Apr 2024 #8
Do you want to add two justices? TexasDem69 Apr 2024 #9
No, just have one judge per district. haele Apr 2024 #10
Yep. Thirteen districts, thirteen justices. calimary Apr 2024 #26
It's actually the Federal Court of Appeals divided into 13 circuits, but I agree. Afterall The Federal Appeals Courts Cheezoholic Apr 2024 #27
Aha! Good. I wasn't sure of the wording. calimary Apr 2024 #29
Unfortunately we don't have enough Democrats willing to junk the filibuster and get this done... Silent3 Apr 2024 #11
More specifically, you don't have enough Democrats willing to add more Justices... brooklynite Apr 2024 #13
The gravity of the situation is reaching a serious point Iwasthere Apr 2024 #30
It would only be a temporary fix. LeftInTX Apr 2024 #12
Via what mechanism? mzmolly Apr 2024 #14
It might be easier to unpack it. niyad Apr 2024 #16
I agree LeftInTX Apr 2024 #17
Pack the court now and pack it hard. Trueblue1968 Apr 2024 #18
I think we are way past trouble Zilli Apr 2024 #22
No Polybius Apr 2024 #23
UNPACK the court, or live under fascist rule forever. dalton99a Apr 2024 #28

Tribetime

(7,097 posts)
15. Just their line of questioning was so ridiculous
Thu Apr 25, 2024, 10:35 PM
Apr 2024

Bending over backwards to make any argument they could in Trump's favor.. Clearly The Supreme Court justices, some of them are.As corrupt as sin

uponit7771

(93,504 posts)
38. They will roll on the side of obvious law then make dems feel like they were given a favor
Sat Apr 27, 2024, 10:10 PM
Apr 2024

... that's how screwed up SCOTUS is now

sdfernando

(6,039 posts)
3. I don't particularly like the phrase "pack the court"
Thu Apr 25, 2024, 08:51 PM
Apr 2024

I think a good term would be “rebalancing the court”. Having a Justice for each court makes sense.

In It to Win It

(12,523 posts)
4. As a general matter, I think more judges should be added anyway. The country legitimately needs more federal judges
Thu Apr 25, 2024, 08:52 PM
Apr 2024

Congress should have expanded the all federal courts at least 10 years ago. Congress should assess the needs of the judiciary every 10 to 20 years.

Judges are seen as political operatives in robes so that will likely not happen.

Earthrise

(15,743 posts)
6. Yep. I thought it sounded good when Buttigieg mentioned it in the run up
Thu Apr 25, 2024, 09:08 PM
Apr 2024

To the 2020 election. Now I think doing so is urgent.

wnylib

(25,355 posts)
21. It might be soon if the House balance shifts.
Thu Apr 25, 2024, 11:29 PM
Apr 2024

It WILL be possible if we give Biden a securely Democratic Cobgress in this year's election.

wnylib

(25,355 posts)
32. He does sometimes shift his perspective when a situation calls for it.
Fri Apr 26, 2024, 08:57 PM
Apr 2024

Considering the irrationality and corruption of the current court, Biden might be persuaded to change his view.

Groundhawg

(1,213 posts)
33. Have you forgotten Biden is against it?
Sat Apr 27, 2024, 04:41 PM
Apr 2024

And why should we convince Biden to go against his wishes? I get it the court is corrupt but there is nothing currently we can do about it.

wnylib

(25,355 posts)
34. I agree that currently there is nothing that we can do.
Sat Apr 27, 2024, 08:52 PM
Apr 2024

I began by saying that we might be able to something when we have a strong enough Dem majority.

If we get that in the coming election, why shouldn't we try to persuade Biden to approve a law that expands the court?

wnylib

(25,355 posts)
36. I agree that Biden is awesome and the best president in my lifetime.
Sat Apr 27, 2024, 09:35 PM
Apr 2024

But, he is not God. Come to think of it, people do try to persuade God to do certain things, so trying to persuade a good president to do something is not radical. It's politics, which Joe is quite experienced at.

I am not suggesting making it a campaign issue this year. I'm only suggesting that, if we hold all 3 seats of government in November, we should consider court expansion to match the federal district courts.

 

TexasDem69

(2,317 posts)
9. Do you want to add two justices?
Thu Apr 25, 2024, 09:19 PM
Apr 2024

That would still be 6-5 against us. Or should we add four? That seems pretty convenient since it would give us a majority. But what if one wasn’t particularly liberal, do we then need to add six? And we better do it fast, because who knows what the government will look like in February

haele

(15,192 posts)
10. No, just have one judge per district.
Thu Apr 25, 2024, 09:57 PM
Apr 2024

That better balances the case loads then 9 judges splitting 13 districts between them.
It makes more sense to add or remove justices as judicial districts are added or consolidated.

Haele

Cheezoholic

(3,577 posts)
27. It's actually the Federal Court of Appeals divided into 13 circuits, but I agree. Afterall The Federal Appeals Courts
Fri Apr 26, 2024, 12:15 AM
Apr 2024

are the gateway to the SCOTUS and arguably have more influence over the general population on a day to day basis than the SCOTUS. I have been a proponent of 1 Supervising Justice per Appeals Circuit long before RICO.

 

Silent3

(15,909 posts)
11. Unfortunately we don't have enough Democrats willing to junk the filibuster and get this done...
Thu Apr 25, 2024, 10:00 PM
Apr 2024

...on an emergency basis.

And I do consider this a five-alarm Constitutional emergency.

 

brooklynite

(96,882 posts)
13. More specifically, you don't have enough Democrats willing to add more Justices...
Thu Apr 25, 2024, 10:21 PM
Apr 2024

...not do you have a President who will do so.

Iwasthere

(3,508 posts)
30. The gravity of the situation is reaching a serious point
Fri Apr 26, 2024, 10:43 AM
Apr 2024

Warranting a fresh look, by President Biden. If enough fed up repubs left the house we might just have enough Democrats. At what point do you suggest we act re the clearly mad SC?

Zilli

(286 posts)
22. I think we are way past trouble
Thu Apr 25, 2024, 11:33 PM
Apr 2024

These sadists could gleefully destroy everything about the country we grew up in and our national integrity, ethics, honor and freedom will be gone and the voice of the people will be silenced. This is a travesty.

Polybius

(21,631 posts)
23. No
Thu Apr 25, 2024, 11:36 PM
Apr 2024

A) It looks bad in an election year.
B) It would not overcome a filibuster in the Senate, and Manchin and Sinema would not be on board anyway.

dalton99a

(92,843 posts)
28. UNPACK the court, or live under fascist rule forever.
Fri Apr 26, 2024, 12:21 AM
Apr 2024

Add enough judges to make the assholes permanently irrelevant

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