David Brooks has repeatedly stated on the PBS NewsHour

[Tumbulu]

that he is worried that there will be violence outside of the Democratic Convention that rivals those of the Chicago days.

My take on this is that he is aware of the plans from the violent reichwing to be sure that such events do occur.

It was no secret that much of the violence at the BLM marches were planted. Where I live over half the sheriff's department are fervent T supporters. How hard will it be to stage such violence? Not hard at all.

I hope that whoever is planning the convention comes up with a way to circumvent this apparent plan from the reichwing to create the appearance of chaos at the convention.

Has anyone else noticed how he keeps bringing this up?

[Irish_Dem]

1. The PutinGOP plans are going quite well.

[Prairie Gates]

2. Lollapalooza Tactics on the Street of Chicago

[kimbutgar]

3. I wouldn't be surprised if the proud boys or another Nazi style group is making plan right now to disrupt

The Democratic convention. I saw a video yesterday of these khaki pant wearing jerks with face masks in WV and thought immediately they might show up in Chicago.

I hope the DNC has plans to protect convention goers.

[Bobstandard]

7. I'd expect "pro Palestinian" groups

To do the demonstrating. And I expect both Putin and Chinese propagandists will be trying to turn those demonstrations toward violence.

Ther are plenty of reasons for genuine pro Palestinians to protest. I just think that they are ripe for exploitation by the sophisticated propagandists who helped divide Americans and elect Trump. In addition there are the pro violence groups who are less ideological than simply looking to screw things up. (I think of The Black Watch and I’m sure there are plenty of Proud Boy types who fit as well) who love to show up and make any demonstration an exercise in nihilism.

I think most pro Palestinian folks are genuine in their desire to see an end of violence in Gaza. They have reason and right to demonstrate. But I do think it important to remember that Hamas, Isis, and others relish the idea of the demise and punishment of The Great SATIN. I’m also think there are sympathizers here who are pitching in to accelerate that happening.

Finally, remember that after the Chicago riots around the Democratic convention investigations ended up calling it as much a police riot as anything else.

[mahina]

23. Word

[SweetT]

47. Oh dear,

why do they hate satin so much? It feels great and looks fine too. Sorry, a moment of levity in this very sad world.

[Bobstandard]

57. Hilarious. Thanks.

Sometimes a misspelling is just a misspelling. Sometimes it’s comedy gold.

[blm]

4. Pretty dense to have the convention in Chicago, imo.

[yardwork]

60. Why? Chicago is a great location.

[blm]

63. Great location, but, RightWingers have a hardened myth they'll be compelled

to realize.

The same way they committed the worst of the violence, destruction, and ALL the murders of law enforcement during the BLM protests. They are evil opportunists willing to commit murder with the expectation the media will blame the Democrats and left.

[yardwork]

64. MAGATs will do that anyway, anywhere.

In Chicago we have a strong Democratic infrastructure to help control the situation.

[blm]

66. Definitely a positive to have a brilliant guv like JB Pritzker.

[Model35mech]

62. Maybe more true for the GOP in Milwaukee, imo. That's raised anxiety here.

I don't think the GOP will end up close to producing the dreamed of "Convention Fest"

Every big summer event in Milwaukee ends in-'fest'. At least the GOP isn't going to be here to populate "Harley-fest" or "German-Fest".

[mopinko]

5. fear not. they may try. they will fail badly.

watermelon isis is pissed they cant get a permit to protest where the cameras r. too bad.
trust me when i say that no one in city govt, in the dnc, or the citizens of chgo wants to see another 68.
protest will b met w a solid blue wall. just like the 1 that we here all met protesting w’s bullshit middle east war.

of all the possible scenarios out there, this 1 is not hard to foresee. we can and will keep the peace.

[Tumbulu]

10. I sincerely hope so

I am surrounded geographically by a bunch of T supporting friends of our local Sheriff's Department. So, I do not put much past these people.

Thank you for reassuring me.

[mopinko]

49. our new mayor is having a bumpy ride. no way he lets the convention go sideways. no f'ing way. and

remember that 68 was a POLICE RIOT. our cops r better now, but there r plenty of racist idiots.
we passed a civilian review board in the last election. it’s not quite assembled, but take my word for it, any cop involved in starting shit will b hauled b4 that board.
imho, johnson is just looking for reasons to fire bad cops. the budget is tight, and those assholes cost us millions every year.
the stars r very well aligned here.

[elleng]

29. THANK GOODNESS!

I was THERE in '68, fortunately violence missed me; I helped afterwards.

I suspected that Chicago & Illinois had learned a thing or two after Daley, tho I haven't been close enough actually to observe such.

[yardwork]

59. Watermelon ISIS!

Perfect!

[mopinko]

67. stolen from malcolm nance.

[yardwork]

68. It's brilliant.

[mopinko]

69. he's brilliant.

tho i’m a pretty good thief.

[brooklynite]

6. Protests by Trump supporters would only help Biden.

And there’s no evidence that left wing (Israel/Gaza) protests are being externally organized.

[Tumbulu]

9. Not if they are disguised - they

infiltrate on the far left, then they have out of control T supporting police. Made for TV violence. All staged to look like the l"eft wing violence in the big cities".

I don't care that no evidence has been found yet. It is pretty darn clear that a fair amount of violence comes from infiltrators. I sat next to one such guy on a plane once. It was obvious what he and his buds were on the payroll to instigate. And sure enough, shop windows smashed, etc.

The reichwing is good at this. We ignore the risk at our own peril.

Especially since David Brooks keeps predicting it.

[Blue Owl]

8. It'll be as real as his $86 airport cheeseburger

[Tumbulu]

15. I hope that you are correct

[rubbersole]

19. Well, when you marinate your cheeseburger in single malt Scotch...

...expect an $86 bill. Conveniently left out of a great story.

[Takket]

11. i would not be surprised

it is a pretty tried and true right wing activity now to blend in with left-wing protestors, and start pushing, shoving, starting fights with police... this has been going on at all the college campuses.

[mopinko]

52. they can try. they'll fail. hard.

[ancianita]

12. One has to wonder who/what David Brooks' sources are. Was he asked how he's so certain of this happening?

[Tumbulu]

14. I did not hear him being questioned about it

He just has repeated this worry now two or three Friday's in a row.

It reminds me of when he was waxing on for months about how wonderful Bernie Sanders was (compared to Hilary) back in the day. It all feels a bit manipulative and hinting at the backroom plans of the side he is on.

[ancianita]

18. Yeah, okay. This is more corporate handwringing drama over Democrats. As if there isn't sufficient

intel and security in Chicago to be proactive about uses and security setups around the United Center on the West Side of Chicago. It's one of the largest arenas in the country. There are no streets or parks available around it for protests, except for Union Park, over half a mile away. It's 6 miles west of Chicago's lakefront parks, and 6 blocks north of the closest FBI Field Office.
Traffic will NOT be blocked for protests.

People here should remember how anti-trump/russia crews got driven out of Chicago. Chicago knows how to keep russia-organized trumpers out of public arenas.

Brooks really doesn't know that area, the arena's decades of locked down security, the Chicago PD, nor one of the smartest governors in the U.S., Gov. JB Pritzker.

It won't go down the way Brooks fears.

Corporate media can hype this convention protest crap all they want, but they absolutely will not get a repeat of the 1968 Democratic Convention protests. Ain't gonna happen.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Center

[Tumbulu]

36. Thank you so much for giving me the specifics

which gives me great comfort.

[ancianita]

38. Happy to! Having lived in Chicago for over 50 years, having been to that arena, I know who/what I'm talkin' 'bout.

[mopinko]

51. the best thing about du- ppl on the ground. always.

i completely concur. aint gonna b no bs allowed.
give watermelon isis a permit for lincoln park. any cop that starts shit, well, we’re lookin for bad cops to fire. they’re too f’ing expensive. brandon’s got better things to do w that money.

[Captain Zero]

32. I'll ask him. Someone shoot me his phone number.

I'm guessing he is working by 10a on Monday morning. I'll call him then.

[japple]

16. I have never liked David Brooks. He seems so wishy-washy to me. I love PBS and I have

always liked their Friday evening roundup, esp. when Judy Woodruff was hosting. I adored Mark Shields (RIP) and love Jonathan Capehart, but have never warmed up to David Brooks.

[ancianita]

20. I hear you. He's a mixed bag. He should stick to writing books.

[mahina]

24. Yep. for me, it started in the lead up to the Iraq war

Which cheerleaded relentlessly Knowing as well as all of us, there were no WMDs.

[HUAJIAO]

25. Brooks is a buffoon. Always has been. In fact, he is a never was.

Mark Shields used to so slyly eat him for lunch. I loved it !!

[vanlassie]

61. Boy no kidding.

What I call a horse’s ass. No offense to horses.

[Baitball Blogger]

13. I hope people in the criminal justice department have their ear on the rail.

[kingvitamin]

17. Nip it in the bud!

Flood the zone with massive security and have a plan in place that anticipates trouble.

[PortTack]

28. See post #27

[ancianita]

30. The DNC, city, and state already have a security plan in place. No matter what corporate media hype, there won't be

trouble. Chicagoans, Chicago PD and the state of Illinois ain't havin' none of that.
Media try this line across the country every single time the DNC has conventions. Media are stupid.

[kingvitamin]

40. I hope so.

I hope they also anticipate some type of planned distraction elsewhere that could draw security away from the convention.

[Captain Zero]

34. The magas will flee our convention quickly if:

Their pick-up trucks start getting rainbow painted with paint balls.

[dchill]

21. Me thinks the Brooksy doth protest too much.

Forsooth!

[Mr.Bill]

22. The left wing protesters

need to sit this one out, and let the bad actors get violent if they wish. It worked on January 6th.

[liberal N proud]

26. He is hoping there is violence

[PortTack]

27. I wouldn't be surprised if the are protesters. Governor Pritzker is part of the Biden reelection campaign

I think he’ll keep things well under control.

[rgbecker]

31. I find myself shouting at the TV every friday evening when Brooks says his stupid stuff.

You are right about the constant mention of trouble at Chicago....but this Friday he was defending the idea of immunity for a president.

That is crazy talk yet somehow the idea that past presidents are suddenly going to be dragged to Court willy-nilly is the new conservative talking point. Can they explain how this hasn't ever happened in all of US history? Do they not realize the difficulty that has been had even bringing Trump into the court room? And Trump is a guy that really has broken the law. Let me remind you...twice impeached! How is it that now is the time to be talking about immunity for a president?

[Tumbulu]

37. yes, agreed!

I cannot believe how stupid their talking points are, but nobody in the press seems to points them out.

[Joinfortmill]

33. Don't like him much

[Warpy]

35. That means the MAGAts are planning to start shit

I know how passionate the under 30 crowd is about various issues, but please stay away. For one thing, the police are still largely infested with white supremacists laced with psychopaths and would love an opportunity for mayhem.

Please stay away. Don't get injured, finish whatever school you started, keep making a difference at the polls, whether running for office or voting for good people who do.

Besides, if we all stay away, only the violentMAGAts will show up. Thay way, the cops will beat the hell out of the right people.

[ancianita]

42. Remember how Chicago kicked MAGAts out last time?

Even The Guardian covered it:

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/mar/12/donald-trump-rally-called-off-in-chicago-amid-protests-violence-and-chaos

Photos of it:
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/gallery/2016/mar/12/confrontations-shut-down-trump-rally-in-chicago-in-pictures

Trump won't step foot in that town. And paid operatives? Good luck with that. The Chicago FBI field office will only be backup LOL for Chicago anti-trumpers.

This photo is from the UIC Pavilion where MAGAts were supposed to rally and were driven out.

[Warpy]

48. Different animal, entirely

The 1968 mess outside the convention started when peace & love hippies got attacked by a bunch of middle aged guys who hated college boys, especially those with "effeminate" long hair. That gave the cops the excuse they needed to go in and bust heads and do mass arrests--of the college kids and hippies, of course.

The bits and pieces of raw video that were edited together and televised scared Middle America into giving Nixon 2 terms, especially since their convention was a model of decorum. He did a huge amount of damage. I don't want to take the slightest chance of having a repeat of that mess.

You want to fuck up somebody's convention, fuck theirs up. It's going to be a mess, anyway, MAGAts clashing with the saner people who want a president who won't be sitting in courtrooms or even prison.

[mopinko]

53. no. it was a police riot. and it wasnt outside the convention.

it started in lincoln park, a near north lakefront park and ended up downtown.

and it wont happen again. we now have a citizen review board, and they’re just itchin to fire bad cops. they cost the city millions, and brandon has better ideas for how to spend that money.

68 was a long time ago. the iraq war protests here mostly went off w/o a hitch. the only 1 that got ugly was 1 that spilled into lakeshore drive, and stopped traffic.
this convention will b ringed by cops, shoulder to shoulder, in full riot gear, if that’s what it takes.
but it wont. protests, otoh, oh yeah. they’ll be under control.

[Warpy]

56. Iraq war protests were ignored by the media especially national TV

They got some coverage on local news, but that was it. That's why they wren[t worth disrupting.

The BLM protests were scarier to white suburbia, so they got a lot of national TV converage, which is why the cops came down so hard on them. Damned uppity black folks, how dare they? National media lapped it right up.

You can bet the press would breathlessly cover anything going on outside the DNC. They'd be hyperventilating over a possible repeat of 1968 and you know what they're like. Stay home, people. Just don't do it. Not this time. Nixon was a crook. TFG is a monster.

I don't care what anybody does to the Republicans. It's already going to be a clusterfuck.

[Fiendish Thingy]

39. Brooks is the Hack of all Hacks

He has never been right about anything, ever.

PBS’s credibility suffers for having him on their air.

He should be ignored.

[misanthrope]

41. Why? Because it is an easy target.

You don't have to be privy to secret info to see that for yourself. Ginning up outrage and emotions among certain demographics is pretty facile. Low-info voters are one such subset. Emotionally amped youth are another.

[DemocraticPatriot]

43. The violence at the 1968 Democratic convention was mostly

initiated by the Chicago police....


Yes, I presume there will be protesters there,
and YES, I believe that magats will attempt to infiltrate them to encourage violence....

I hope that the local political leadership and the police forces
have advanced themselves enough beyond 1968
to prevent anything like that from happening this year

[ancianita]

44. It won't happen that way. The 1968 protests were all along the lakefront. The United Center is six miles from there.

Not the same war. Not the same PD. Not the same mayor. Not the same governor. Not the same Secret Service, FBI, DOJ, and not the same president.

Believe the fear hype if you want, but here's a general idea of the plan.
No, of course no one knows the FULL plan because that's what Russia/trumpcult operatives want. RIGHT?



https://www.cbsnews.com/chicago/news/chicago-dnc-security-plan/#textThe20Secret20Service20will20operateand20Ashland20to20the20east

The buffer zone will be in place for nine days and it just so happens that stretch will include two Sundays, meaning services at eight nearby churches in the lockdown area could be affected.

The Secret Service will operate vehicle checkpoints and put up a gate at the United Center. The likely boundaries of the buffer zone are Maypole Avenue to the north, Jackson to the south, Leavitt to the west, and Ashland to the east.estrictions in the secure area include no guns, fireworks, bikes, scooters, tents and balloons. The city also said bicycles and dogs won't be allowed.

A Chicago police official said that policy is meant to protect residents from getting caught up in whatever demonstration activities will inevitably happen within the buffer zone.

CBS 2 asked people who work and live in the area what they think about the rules.

"So you think they're not even gonna let me use this field right here?" said Jawaan Jackson, a dog owner. "Alright, then it could be a slight inconvenience then if that's the case, for sure."

Jackson owns Every Single Day Dog Training and lives near the arena. He said one day he saw police, FBI and other government organizations in the neighborhood, likely canvassing with flyers about the DNC...

DNC activities are also scheduled for McCormick Place, so a second city buffer zone will be established there. The anticipated boundaries are Cullerton Avenue to the north, 26th Street to the south, State to the west and just before DuSable Lake Shore Drive to the east.

The Chicago City Council approved an ordinance on Wednesday that allows Chicago police to create the security boundaries.

The Secret Service said in a statement:

"The 2024 Democratic National Convention security plan is still being developed. The U.S. Secret Service, along with our local and federal partners, earlier this month went door-to-door contacting residents and businesses around the United Center and McCormick Place to gather community feedback that can be incorporated into the plan. A list of prohibited items has not been finalized. Specific maps that will include street closures, and parking restrictions are still evolving and will be released closer to the convention."

[calimary]

45. Shit, as if I don't already have enough to worry about...

Forewarned us forearmed, I suppose.

[mopinko]

55. dont worry. we got this.

there will b. no repeat of 68. take it to the bank.

[DJ Synikus Makisimus]

46. Neocons are all in for Israel.

Always have been. To a guy like Brooks who has made it his career, it's also a great opportunity to bash Democrats as radical extremists.

[ShazamIam]

50. Here is a video clip of the police attacking the protestors that day. And of course the rioting helped get

Nixon elected, there is also research that the police insti
gated riots in several cities after the assassinations of MLK and RFK. Nixon promised to lock up all those hippies and kick those other people back to the ghettos.
youtube video of police attacking protestors a the Democratic convention 1968

Video introduction from Democracy Now
https://democracynow.org - It was 50 years ago this week that the 1968 Democratic National Convention in Chicago became a national spectacle, as a major political event turned into chaos that culminated with a police riot, much of it unfolding on live national television. Chicago met the protesters with 24,000 police officers, National Guardsmen and Army soldiers using tear gas and clubs. We feature newsreel clips from the week and go to Chicago to speak with former SDS and Weather Underground member Bill Ayers, who was arrested 50 years ago.

[mopinko]

54. it was absolutely a police riot, and we're sick of how much bad cops cost the city.

to any idiot cop gnawing at the restraints, all i can say is- i wish a mutha wd.

[yardwork]

58. David Brooks is an ass.

[Torchlight]

65. A few isolated groups, bought and paid for

by very clean rubles will get maybe 30 to 60 seconds of national airtime and a few rage posts for fun and profit. Beyond that, I just don't really think anything beyond the formal nomination will occur.