Michael Moore won't be remembered for his movies *

[Oopsie Daisy]

Michael Moore won’t be remembered for his movies — @MMFlint will be remembered for helping to elect Republicans and costing Democrats the SCOTUS for two generations - Moore is trash, he’s garbage

Michael Moore will do and say whatever is necessary to kneecap Biden's campaign and empower Trump, GOP, and Russia.

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[obamanut2012]

1. k n r

[RussBLib]

2. Trash nt

[SocialDemocrat61]

3. I like Moore and don't have a problem

with him having a policy difference with the President. What I have a problem with is him declaring that 'Biden can end the war with one phone call', which is total BS.

[Dave says]

24. I suspect Biden has made multiple calls

So, yes, BS.

[ProfessorPlum]

4. I agree with Moore here

and furthermore what he is saying is self-evident. Biden IS hurting his reelection campaign by giving the Israeli government a blank check to slaughter innocent civilians. I also wish Biden would stop the slaughter AND at the same time improve his reelection chances by using American power and influence.

Moore wants Biden to win, and to also do the correct thing with respect to this genocide. So do I.

[myohmy2]

11. +1...

...

[In Too Deep]

12. Wait. You agree with Moore?

Really? You really think Biden has openly embraced carpet bombing babies?

What a horrific thing to accuse Biden of - like wow.

[orangecrush]

46. Welcome to DU

[shrike3]

15. Israel would have 85 percent of its military budget intact if we pulled all our aid.

So, no, Biden cannot singlehandedly stop the slaughter.

[lame54]

25. All the more reason to stop writing checks

[shrike3]

26. With the military budget mostly intact, the war will likley continue.

So much for Biden stopping it all with one phone call.

[lame54]

27. I'm talking about how it looks months before an election

[shrike3]

28. I don't know that it will matter to the true believers.

I also don't know if the average American is paying attention to the war. Or the average young person.

[In Too Deep]

53. Our support of Israel offers us a seat at the table.

And Biden has successfully used it these last few months. Take away any incentive Israel has to work with us, and we lose any chance to influence their positions and beyond threatening war with Israel, there's nothing stopping Israel from doing whatever they want to Gaza.

[lame54]

62. At this point we have to pay for a seat at the table?...

What have the last 75 years been about?

[In Too Deep]

63. Supporting the only pro-US democracy in the Middle East.

It's a simple proposition: you either care what's happening in Gaza or you don't. You can't claim to care one tiny fraction for the people of Gaza and advocate for the US completely removing themselves from influence in the region.

It seems there are people that are okay with the attacks just as long as it's not US dollars going to fund it. If that's what you think, fine, I can get on board with that thought process - but don't get mad at a guy like Biden trying to use influence in the region to get a ceasefire done and to bring the hostages home.

[lame54]

64. Do, YOU ARE SAYING we have to pay to play...

Biden CAN'T skip a check and still remain at the table

[In Too Deep]

65. Yes. That's typically how things work.

What do you think Obama did with the Iran Nuclear Deal? Do you think Iran just agreed to it out of the goodness of their heart?

[Cha]

16. Fucking Moore is GASLIGHTING and HOpefully

Responsible and Democracy loving People won't fall for his shit.

I Call Bullshit on MM..

Pres Biden Does NOT "embrace" this shit..

he's made to embrace slaughter, carpet bombing, babies in incubators dead. On and on.”

He's Depressing the VOTE

[Cuthbert Allgood]

41. you realize his wording is "he's MADE to..."

He doesn't say he does. Among other things, he's talking about the latest bill he had to sign that gave billions to Israel in the middle of them doing horrible things to innocent people.

Actual words people use are important.

[HUAJIAO]

29. I agree with Michael also. I listened to an entire interview and he is right.

[brush]

54. Now is not a time for divisiveness with trump and his Plan 2025 outlining his plans for fascism...

and destruction of our democracy. It's the last thing we need.

Biden and Blinken are trying everything they can to get both Netanyahu and Hamas to agreed to a cease fire and hostage/prisoner exchanges.

Moore is out of is mind to say Biden can stop the war with one phone call.

Time to get behind Biden to stop the approaching fascism.

[Stinky The Clown]

5. Some years ago I had a post removed for calling him trash

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[Oopsie Daisy]

36. 🤗🫂

[Johonny]

6. How would Moore obtain this mysterious cease fire?

Given Biden who is at least one hundred times the politician has been unable to obtain it? You can pull bullshit from a hat.

[betsuni]

7. Personally blames Democrats for causing/not stopping all bad things, being dishonest immoral warmongers.

Moore doesn't know who the Democratic base is (and doesn't understand politics) and imagines they're always upset with Democrats because Democrats misunderstand everything (don't know what's going on, out of touch, fundraisers fundraisers money corrupt) and must be scolded and told what to do and it's always their fault for big imaginary sins if they lose elections by one point or something.

Then a month before the election he'll tell everyone to vote for Biden.

[TheRealNorth]

13. He understands the Democratic base in the Midwest

[Cha]

14. No. Moore does't even know who the

Democratic Base is.

[Cuthbert Allgood]

40. I would venture to guess he knows the midwest base better than you.

He grew up with and is still part of the midwest base.

[Cha]

45. Moore is trying to Depress the Vote for Pres Biden.

The Democratic Base is WOC and POC.. Thank Goodness for them!

They Actually Help Dems All the time.. they don't sit home to "teach lessons.".

[Cuthbert Allgood]

47. No, he isn't.

He wasn't trying to in 2016, either.

He saw a problem in 2016 that people were just ignoring, and he tried to warn us. Most people ignored him.

He's doing the same thing this year.

[Demsrule86]

49. He helped creats the problem in 2016 during the primary and ran his mouth in 20 as well.

In an exclusive interview with Ari Melber, Michael Moore slams VP Joe Biden, calling him ‘this year’s Hilary.’ Moore argued Biden ‘is not going to excite the base to get out there and vote on November 3rd,’ adding the majority of people voting in the election “are either women, people of color or young people.” Aired on 10/02/1

[DemocratInPa]

58. I am so tired of..

Every time someone has an issue with something a Democrat does, yes even Biden, you are against Democrats or trying to get Republicans the WH... GTFO

I think Biden continuing to give Israel billions to commit Genocide sucks. Does that mean I am trying to get Republicans reelected?

[TheRealNorth]

55. Says some dude (or dudette) retired in Hawaii

[Cha]

56. Yeah my son has lived here since 1985.

You Don’t Know Anything about me . like Moore doesn’t know anything about the real Dem base.. WOC & POC.

lol at calling me a “dude”

[shrike3]

23. I live in the Midwest.

Save for the small slice of young people who make up the progressive community, no one talks about the Israel-Hamas war. They do talk grocery prices, gas prices, high rents and the high cost of buying a home. The Biden administration has done a lot for average people. but not enough know about it. If I were them, I'd talk about those good things and the good things they'd do if given a second term.

[MistakenLamb]

32. I live in the Chicago suburbs and yep. This election is going to come down to how people feel about the "economy"

Not the Gaza war. Americans are more concerned about fueling their cars, feeding their families and affording their homes than the war. Even amonng the yutes things like reproductive freedom takes precedent over the war. Michael Moore still thinks that people who look like him are the base of the party.

[Demsrule86]

50. Nope Roe Roe your vote.

[Demsrule86]

48. Michael Moore hurt Gore, Kerry and Clinton...so spare me.

He didn't read the tea leaves his bullshit caused it during both Kerry's and Gore's primary and also during Hillary's as well. Fuck him.

[Cha]

59. And MM was dead wrong about freaking

Romney which I posted the link on this thread.

TY!

[Demsrule86]

66. I missed that...good point Cha!

[Sneederbunk]

8. He was the canary in the coal mine in 2016.

[shrike3]

17. He also said, "Get used to President Romney" in 2012.

Sometimes he's right, sometimes he's wrong.

[Cha]

20. Yes I just Posed this with a Link...

Michael Moore: Mitt Romney Will Win In November, Unless.

Mitt Romney is going to raise more money than Barack Obama. That should guarantee his victory," Moore told host Josh Zepps. "I think people should start to practice the words 'President Romney.' To assume that the other side are just a bunch of ignoramuses who are supported by people who believe that Adam and Eve rode on dinosaurs 6,000 years ago is to completely misjudge the opposition."

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/michael-moore-mitt-romney_n_1843824
And what did Moore do to help Hillary in 2016?

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=18913859

[betsuni]

31. The myth that the candidate with the most money, as Romney did, has to win. Everything's about money.

Also said only way Democrats could win in 2020 would be by running a "beloved celebrity" like Oprah or Tom Hanks and not a politician.

He was wrong about why Midwestern whites voted for Trump, believed the myth of economic anxiety and blamed Democrats. His documentary "Roger & Me" was released in 1989. Manufacturing jobs began disappearing in the '70s and by the '80s was terrible. But Moore and his types blame Bill Clinton and NAFTA and that every trade deal is bad (TPP was a diabolical Obama plot to screw American workers). He knows it isn't true.

Also these types keep saying, Gee whiz, why can't America have universal health care. Medicare for All as a purity test is destructive.

President Obama:

"... the need to replace private insurance and for-profit health care with a single-payer system like Canada's was an article of faith. Had we been starting from scratch I would have agreed with them; the evidence from other countries showed that a single, national system -- basically Medicare for All -- was a cost-effective way to deliver quality healthcare. But neither Massachusetts nor the United States was starting from scratch. Teddy [Kennedy, who spent his career fighting for universal health care as a human right], who despite his reputation as a wide-eyed liberal was ever practical, understood that trying to dismantle the existing system and replace it with an entirely new one would be not only a political nonstarter but hugely disruptive economically.

" 'What is it about sixty votes these folks don't understand?' I groused to my staff. 'Should I tell the thirty million people who can't get covered that they're going to have to wait another ten years because we can't get them a public option?' ... It also ignored the fact that all the great social welfare advances in American history, including Social Security and Medicare, had started off incomplete and had been built upon gradually, over time."

[Cha]

19. Moore was WRONG about 2012.

Michael Moore: Mitt Romney Will Win In November, Unless.

Mitt Romney is going to raise more money than Barack Obama. That should guarantee his victory," Moore told host Josh Zepps. "I think people should start to practice the words 'President Romney.' To assume that the other side are just a bunch of ignoramuses who are supported by people who believe that Adam and Eve rode on dinosaurs 6,000 years ago is to completely misjudge the opposition."

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/michael-moore-mitt-romney_n_1843824

And what did Moore do to help Hillary in 2016?

[W_HAMILTON]

21. Canary in the coal mine?

Or one of the many raindrops responsible for the flood that took down Hillary? From that summer:

[Cha]

22. Jesus.. I asked what MM did to help Hillary in

in 2016 when he predicted a TSF win.

[betsuni]

35. "Michael Moore in Trumpland" where he finally supported Hillary was released October 18, 2016.

Talk about waiting until the last possible minute. Tell your audience for years that Democrats are terrible corrupt neoliberal corporatist monsters and then turn around at the last second and say, Oh you should vote for them. Of course it doesn't work. Your audience believed you about monsters because they trust you.

[Cuthbert Allgood]

39. Or, he released it when it would be fresh in minds when people voted.

He was saying Trump was horrible for a long time. Weren't you listening?

[Cha]

42. And, predicting a TSF win.. There's NO excuse.

TY

[betsuni]

9. Never forget Moore said President Obama will only be remembered for being the first black president.

"And that's it."

[Oopsie Daisy]

10. Yes. That was disgusting.

I vomited a little bit in my mouth we when I heard that.

[Cha]

18. What an ugly Racist Bullshit thing for Moore to say

about our Beloved Former Pres Obama.

[SoFlaBro]

33. I'm about fucking done with pandering to Moore and hanging on his every word. He is a fucking concern troll and no ally.

[Cha]

34. Yeh he's a Gaslit Troll and

has been for a long time. he lied in Forida and siad Gore and bush were the same Tweedle Dum & Tweedle Dee.. same wtih Sarandon...

Pres. Obama won twice in spite of Vote Depressors like those two. Hoping Pres Biden can do it Too They did get Hillary knocked out.

[LetMyPeopleVote]

30. I am not a fan of Moore

[jalan48]

37. Sorry Banquo, Michael Moore won an Oscar. You're the one who will be forgotten.

[Elessar Zappa]

43. Big whoop.

He’s no different than a Republican.

[jalan48]

44. LOL

[Cuthbert Allgood]

38. He pretty much called what was going to happen in 2016

He said we needed to make sure it didn't. Everyone said he was a loon. Then, after what he warned us about coming true, we are going to say he's the worst when he's trying to warn us again.

Here's a thought, maybe we listen to him and try to avoid what he's warning about this time.

[brooklynite]

51. I don't think he'll be remembered at all...

His movies and TV shows always appealed to a niche market of liberal activists. I doubt the average voter has ever seen anything he produced.

[Shermann]

52. His movies are very much of their time as opposed to being timeless.

So no, they won't be in heavy rotation like Shawshank Redemption in the future. I don't think that is what he was going for.

[SocialDemocrat61]

61. Only 72 days, not months

And he got the ACA passed, which is hardly nothing. Plus that super majority included Joe Lieberman, who would have never voted for an abortion bill, and Robert Byrd who had to be wheeled in from his deathbed to vote for the ACA.

[LiberalFighter]

60. I have never been a fan of him. And never will. His views are twisted.

[Greybnk48]

67. I'm a fan of Michael Moore and appreciate what he's done.

I'm sure he's made mistakes, and he's done some things I don't like, but he's always been a fighter for the common people. After his book, "Stupid White Men," he's had a lot of enemies. Some would say he stuck the shovel too close to the hole, i.e.,there was a LOT of truth to what he was saying and he pissed off those with unearned entitlements in the U.S.

He also was the first to document and mass market the dismantling of US manufacturing (Roger and Me); document and mass market what big Pharma was doing to the American people by price gouging (Sicko), and to document and mass market the war crimes of the Bush administration (Fahrenheit 911). I thank him for every one of these things.

[Cha]

68. Michael Morre said "Pres Obama would only be remembered for being a Black Pres.. & that's it"

what a fucking Racist POS thing to say.

Michael Moore: 'Obama will be remembered as the first black president, and that's it'

https://abc7.com/michael-moore-obama-first-black-president-roger-and-me/303494/

[Oopsie Daisy]

69. I remember that. He's an awful gaslighting human being. A waste of flesh.

[Cha]

70. I jsut posted that in the other

MM Thread right now.

Glad you kicked this thread!

Agree on all points!

[H2O Man]

71. Bullshit.