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Pototan

(3,037 posts)
Fri May 3, 2024, 04:12 AM May 2024

What Judge Merchan Must do First Thing This Morning

In open court but before the jury comes in is make sure Trump and his attorney are aware that the gag order in no way prevents Trump from testifying, if he so chooses.

This proclamation, with the judge affirming that Trump acknowledges that fact and his attorney also affirmatively answers that question serves two purposes. It humiliates both Trump and his attorney, in open court, in front of the press and the attorney's peers. It also protects the judge against an appeal, and he will eliminate Trump's ability to use a poor counsel defense on an appeal against his lawyer.

As an aside. When I watched Trump say that the gag order prohibited his being able to testify and then turn to his attorney it reminded me of when Trump said that maybe we could try injecting disinfectant to rid the human body of covid. The scientists reacted the same way. As absurd as what Trump said, they just nodded.

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What Judge Merchan Must do First Thing This Morning (Original Post) Pototan May 2024 OP
Step right up, Mr. Republican Values. Take a seat on the witness toilet. BoRaGard May 2024 #1
Do you really want the judge to look like a MORON Barry Markson May 2024 #2
I'm going to guess that you're being sarcastic Pototan May 2024 #3
I think he's serious and I agree, though it was a snarky way to respond to your post. Patton French May 2024 #9
What about Trump's attorney agreeing with him? Pototan May 2024 #14
Has Trump's attorney made a statement agreeing? Patton French May 2024 #18
After Trump said, Pototan May 2024 #19
Wow, okay. I'm sure the judge will deal with it in a rock solid way. Patton French May 2024 #20
A moron? WTF? Because he respects and follows the law? BoRaGard May 2024 #23
Delete Dupe Pototan May 2024 #26
I told you so Pototan May 2024 #33
Loved it, would have luved it more if he said to the attorney, "Counselor, you would represent your client UTUSN May 2024 #38
I thought court was canceled today? gab13by13 May 2024 #4
Why did you think that? Pototan May 2024 #5
Wrong Friday. gab13by13 May 2024 #15
Trump will make Barron's Graduation, provided Pototan May 2024 #37
Fitness to stand trial Dwild May 2024 #6
No, no, no brooklynite May 2024 #8
I think reply #8 is being sarcastic. (NT) Pototan May 2024 #13
That won't happen. Patton French May 2024 #12
I told you so Pototan May 2024 #27
Absolutely not brooklynite May 2024 #7
100% agree with you. NT Patton French May 2024 #10
First of all, the humiliation won't be the Judge's intent Pototan May 2024 #11
Nope, the judge is not obliged to respond to every silly Trump comment. Patton French May 2024 #16
I still think he'll address the issue today or at another gag hearing. Pototan May 2024 #17
You were right. Others, including myself, were wrong. onenote May 2024 #25
Thank you Pototan May 2024 #31
I told you so Pototan May 2024 #32
I stand corrected! Patton French May 2024 #34
Patton Pototan May 2024 #36
I told you so Pototan May 2024 #28
My guess as to how Trump will try to explain away his comment -UPDATE onenote May 2024 #21
The judge isn't going to respond to every idiotic thing Trump says outside of court. TwilightZone May 2024 #22
I told you so Pototan May 2024 #29
Judge Merchan just opened the proceedings by clarifying that the gag order doesn't prevent Trump from testifying onenote May 2024 #24
Thank you Pototan May 2024 #30
Called it. Tommy Carcetti May 2024 #35

BoRaGard

(7,591 posts)
1. Step right up, Mr. Republican Values. Take a seat on the witness toilet.
Fri May 3, 2024, 04:22 AM
May 2024

And let 'er rip.

We are all ears, even if our noses are pinched.

Dipsy-doodle double dare you, Mr. Smelvis Von Shitzinpants.

Patton French

(1,824 posts)
9. I think he's serious and I agree, though it was a snarky way to respond to your post.
Fri May 3, 2024, 06:11 AM
May 2024

It would not be wise for the judge to do because Trump’s comment about the gag order preventing him from testifying is ridiculous and Trump being typically stupid. The judge should ignore it. It’s the defendant’s decision, in consultation with his lawyers, whether or no to testify. Not even the most Trumpian appellate judge would be able to entertain such a baseless argument on appeal. The judge should not take the bait.

Pototan

(3,037 posts)
14. What about Trump's attorney agreeing with him?
Fri May 3, 2024, 06:22 AM
May 2024

Publicly. With that knowledge, the Judge has to make sure that the defendant is getting adequate counsel

Patton French

(1,824 posts)
18. Has Trump's attorney made a statement agreeing?
Fri May 3, 2024, 06:40 AM
May 2024

I haven’t seen that. If he did or does, the judge will deal with it, probably in chambers with the attorneys from both sides in an on the record discussion.

Pototan

(3,037 posts)
19. After Trump said,
Fri May 3, 2024, 06:43 AM
May 2024

"I can't testify because of the gag order" he turned to his lead Attorney and asked, "Isn't that right?" and the Attorney nodded in the affirmative

Patton French

(1,824 posts)
20. Wow, okay. I'm sure the judge will deal with it in a rock solid way.
Fri May 3, 2024, 06:57 AM
May 2024

I would also love public humiliation, but the judge will address it in the most effective way from a legal/appeal issue perspective.

BoRaGard

(7,591 posts)
23. A moron? WTF? Because he respects and follows the law?
Fri May 3, 2024, 07:47 AM
May 2024

Only a Republican would do otherwise,
pissing and shitting all over the laws of these United States,
disrespecting America.

Pototan

(3,037 posts)
33. I told you so
Fri May 3, 2024, 09:24 AM
May 2024

NEW YORK, May 3 (Reuters) - The judge overseeing Donald Trump's hush money criminal trial said on Friday that a gag order preventing him from commenting about witnesses and jurors does not bar him from testifying in court on his own behalf.

“I want to stress to Mr. Trump: you have an absolute right to testify at trial,” Justice Juan Merchan said to start the 11th day in Trump's hush money trial.

UTUSN

(77,312 posts)
38. Loved it, would have luved it more if he said to the attorney, "Counselor, you would represent your client
Fri May 3, 2024, 10:23 AM
May 2024

more competently if you disabused him of this and many more misapprehensions." - Hey, dreams is all I've got!1




Dwild

(16 posts)
6. Fitness to stand trial
Fri May 3, 2024, 06:09 AM
May 2024

He should have Trump sent to see a psychiatrist to see if he is mentally capable of standing trial.

 

brooklynite

(96,882 posts)
8. No, no, no
Fri May 3, 2024, 06:10 AM
May 2024

The Judge assumes that the Defendant is able to participate in his Defense unless his lawyer claims otherwise.

Patton French

(1,824 posts)
12. That won't happen.
Fri May 3, 2024, 06:18 AM
May 2024

Trump is an idiot who knows he’s in trouble. He’s floundering. The judge is handling everything correctly. It would be wrong to take trumps bait and sink to his perverse level.

Pototan

(3,037 posts)
27. I told you so
Fri May 3, 2024, 09:14 AM
May 2024
NEW YORK, May 3 (Reuters) - The judge overseeing Donald Trump's hush money criminal trial said on Friday that a gag order preventing him from commenting about witnesses and jurors does not bar him from testifying in court on his own behalf.

“I want to stress to Mr. Trump: you have an absolute right to testify at trial,” Justice Juan Merchan said to start the 11th day in Trump's hush money trial.
 

brooklynite

(96,882 posts)
7. Absolutely not
Fri May 3, 2024, 06:09 AM
May 2024

First, it's not the job of the Judge to "humiliate" the Defendant in open Court.

Second, no matter what Trump says, his right to testify exists, and there's no need to reinforce that point unless the Defense lawyers claim that at the Trial.

Pototan

(3,037 posts)
11. First of all, the humiliation won't be the Judge's intent
Fri May 3, 2024, 06:16 AM
May 2024

but it will be the result.

Second. With Trump making a public statement that he can't testify because of the gag order and his attorney nodding affirmatively when Trump asked him, "isn't that right?" I believe it's the Judge's obligation to make sure that the defendant knows his rights and that he's getting proper counsel from his attorney.

The Judge's actions will be out of the presence of the jury, so there would be no harm and will not prejudice the jury.

Patton French

(1,824 posts)
16. Nope, the judge is not obliged to respond to every silly Trump comment.
Fri May 3, 2024, 06:25 AM
May 2024

Last edited Fri May 3, 2024, 09:44 AM - Edit history (1)

See my post #9. Trust this judge. He’s up for the task.

Pototan

(3,037 posts)
17. I still think he'll address the issue today or at another gag hearing.
Fri May 3, 2024, 06:40 AM
May 2024

And it's not just Trump's comment, it's his lead attorney's affirmative reaction to Trump's direct question.

Pototan

(3,037 posts)
32. I told you so
Fri May 3, 2024, 09:21 AM
May 2024
NEW YORK, May 3 (Reuters) - The judge overseeing Donald Trump's hush money criminal trial said on Friday that a gag order preventing him from commenting about witnesses and jurors does not bar him from testifying in court on his own behalf.

“I want to stress to Mr. Trump: you have an absolute right to testify at trial,” Justice Juan Merchan said to start the 11th day in Trump's hush money trial.

Pototan

(3,037 posts)
28. I told you so
Fri May 3, 2024, 09:15 AM
May 2024
NEW YORK, May 3 (Reuters) - The judge overseeing Donald Trump's hush money criminal trial said on Friday that a gag order preventing him from commenting about witnesses and jurors does not bar him from testifying in court on his own behalf.

“I want to stress to Mr. Trump: you have an absolute right to testify at trial,” Justice Juan Merchan said to start the 11th day in Trump's hush money trial.

onenote

(46,067 posts)
21. My guess as to how Trump will try to explain away his comment -UPDATE
Fri May 3, 2024, 07:29 AM
May 2024

Last edited Fri May 3, 2024, 09:10 AM - Edit history (1)

I doubt the judge will address it unless it is raised by the prosecution and I doubt they'll raise it. To the extent that Trump is pressed by the media to explain his comment -- assuming that happens -- my guess is that he'll claim that the gag order doesn't prevent him from taking the stand, but that it somehow prevents him from giving testimony that attacks the other witnesses. That, of course, is not the case. Once he's sworn in, he can say what he wants, under penalty of perjury, about Michael Cohen, etc etc.

On Edit: Credit to the OP -- Judge Merchan opened today's proceedings by clarifying that the gag order doesn't prevent Trump from testifying.

TwilightZone

(28,836 posts)
22. The judge isn't going to respond to every idiotic thing Trump says outside of court.
Fri May 3, 2024, 07:39 AM
May 2024

Otherwise, that's all he'd have time for.

It's also not relevant. As others noted, if his attorneys try to make the claim in open court, that would be the time to address it.

Pototan

(3,037 posts)
29. I told you so
Fri May 3, 2024, 09:16 AM
May 2024
NEW YORK, May 3 (Reuters) - The judge overseeing Donald Trump's hush money criminal trial said on Friday that a gag order preventing him from commenting about witnesses and jurors does not bar him from testifying in court on his own behalf.

“I want to stress to Mr. Trump: you have an absolute right to testify at trial,” Justice Juan Merchan said to start the 11th day in Trump's hush money trial.

onenote

(46,067 posts)
24. Judge Merchan just opened the proceedings by clarifying that the gag order doesn't prevent Trump from testifying
Fri May 3, 2024, 09:12 AM
May 2024

Credit to the OP, who was one of the few posters who foresaw this. I'll eat crow for being among the many who didn't think the judge would bring it up.

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