Hicks... at that moment she started to cry. She just basically gave the prosecution what they needed.

[kpete]

Agnifilo: Hicks said after Trump was President, they had a conversation about the payment to Stormy Daniels and what he said was it’s a good thing the story didn’t come out before the election… at that moment she started to cry. She just basically gave the prosecution what they needed.

Link to tweet

[Uncle Joe]

1. With that realization, at some point it sounds like Hicks had a crisis of conscience,

and I believe that would be extremely persuasive to a jury.

Thanks for the thread kpete.

[agingdem]

10. Conscience?..no!

Hicks has been deep in Trump's cesspool for years, covering up his filth.. she cried because her testimony revealed her to be as slimy as her boss...

[Irish_Dem]

22. Yes I find it hard to believe she has a conscience.

[littlemissmartypants]

37. Crying because she misses her government paychecks.

There's not a single thing that's noble or good about her. Except maybe her hair but even then she probably wears extensions.

It's all always been nothing but smoke and mirrors with crew 45. No one should be fooled by them. Especially since it's every psychopath for themselves with them and their ilk.

She's definitely acting and badly at that.

[agingdem]

42. Hick's is like Daddy's little girl Ivanka..

(you remember Ivanka, the daughter he'd like to date)...both are well dressed reptilian sewer sluts...

[littlemissmartypants]

60. The Reptilian Sewer Slut Wears Prada....opening today in theaters everywhere!

[Botany]

71. Attn L. M.S.P.

I hit some kind of wrong button on
my smartphone..... I did not mean to
send an alert.
= botany

[orangecrush]

75. She was crying

Because she had a choice of damning Trump or committing perjury.

[EmmaLee E]

70. The word "slut"

is unnecessary, vile, and anti-women.

(May I ask what you meant by using the term?)



Frankly, I would expect better here at DU.

[orangecrush]

74. Welcome to DU

[calimary]

67. The instant tears once it's the prosecutors who start asking her questions?

Hmmmmm...

Pretty girl crumbles when she's put under pressure.

I'm sorry - I can't take her seriously. I bet she loved the attention and flattery and compliments she got from the donald, day in and day out. We all know he likes surrounding himself with pretty things. I think that's how she climbed as high as she did on the way to, and into, his White House organization. She may have seen a "daddy thing" in him, and she may have seen how easy he was to exploit if you're a pretty young thing (the kind he fantasizes taking to bed). I doubt someone born with as many blessings-on-the-book-cover wouldn't know how to play a hand like that.

Sorry to be so cynical. I have no inside info here. But I'm old enough to have seen enough.

[Uncle Joe]

48. That's the realization that I'm speaking of. n/t

[NJCher]

51. Whatever the reason

For her crying, it’s what the jury thinks that counts.

At the very least, it’s not good for Cheeto. Making pretty ladies cry, even if they are scumbags under all that makeup, is what villains do.

[notKeith]

64. Absolutely not - this isn't conscience

This is someone aware that she just gave away the game.

[brush]

56. Yep, she finally realized she had taken part in and done nothing to stop the monster that is trump.

[Texin]

83. I don't think it was as much about "conscience" as it was about revealing the shame she now feels about it.

News people were musing and questioning why she would cry, and I would just posit that she had to admit to being complicit in his mendacity. She actually reminds me of women who remain in an abusive relationship because they view it as a transactional decision (i.e., there/was a quid pro quo relationship).

[msongs]

2. is this a Perry Mason moment? nt

[Bucky]

15. This whole chapter of American history has been a Yosemite Sam cartoon from the top.

Strike that. Trump is Pepe le Pew.

[58Sunliner]

33. Heh, let's not insult Pepe.

[NanaCat]

36. Why not? They both stink

And they're both sexual predators who force themselves on unwilling women.

[58Sunliner]

50. I won't argue about the actions or drives of a cartoon character who is an animal.

Only to say that DT knows right from wrong, as evidenced by his hiding evidence, has no excuse and is incredibly harmful to our country.

[Lifeafter70]

52. Ahhh I like pepe

[Irish_Dem]

3. So why was she crying?

[claudette]

5. That's a good question

Some jurors may not have been convinced it was not an act. But with all her damaging testimony that still probably won’t matter.

[Irish_Dem]

20. Right, she gives damaging testimony and turns on the waterworks.

Could be a way to get sympathy from Trump and the Magas.
So they don't come after her.

Or she still is in love with Trump.

Or she has a shred of decency and glimmer of a conscience?

[claudette]

44. Not sure

which of those it would be. Just seemed odd that such a young woman was so close of an advisor to him. I also read that she is getting married this summer.

[Irish_Dem]

46. Yes very odd.

Not someone with the education, training, or experience to advise a US president.

I wonder who she is marrying?
Hopefully a higher caliber of human being than Trump and other boyfriends.

[3catwoman3]

73. Here you go - vice chair of Goldman-Sachs.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100218920387

She's 35, he's 58.

I tired to find out how old his 4 kids are, but haven't been able to. It wouldn't be surprising if the oldest one is close in age to the step-mama-to-be.

[CanonRay]

76. A sugar daddy then

Figures

[3catwoman3]

78. "Figures"

Don't it just...

I did not reach for my smelling salts or collapse on the fainting couch.

[agingdem]

80. Decency...no!

somehow I doubt she shed tears when Trump imposed the Muslim ban, diverted money from government agencies to build his "wall", separated families at the border, placed babies in cages, said torch carrying Nazis chanting "Jews will not replace us " were "very nice people", referred to third world countries as "shit hole countries", spewed racial and ethnic filth, posited shooting BLM peaceful protestors, ignored a global pandemic, "disappeared" 300,000 covid deaths, attempted to withhold military aid for Ukraine in exchange for dirt on Joe Biden, romanced dictators/autocrats, shared classified information with Russian dignitaries in the Oval Office, called fallen soldiers losers and suckers, insulted our allies, dissed NATO, imposed tariffs on China nearly cratering the steel industry here at home...and the list goes on...

she teared up because she knew if she lied under oath to protect Trump, she would suffer the same fate as Allen Weisselberg...and Hicks knew once she told the truth and betrayed Trump, she would cease to exist in Trump World...boo-fucking-hoo

[Irish_Dem]

81. Exactly.

No tears for all the evil Trump was doing.
Not one.

[Warpy]

8. "Look at my remorse over whatever the hell you think I did"

I don't buy it. People in that administration were chosen for loyalty, not conscience.

[70sEraVet]

12. Maybe so imagined the endless stream of MAGA hate mail she will receive....

for many years to come.

[Irish_Dem]

24. Yes.

Maybe she hoped to redeem herself with the Magas.
I'm a victim, they made me talk.

[harumph]

30. I suspect that is exactly what is was.

[TwilightZone]

13. In context, it's not about remorse.

She seems to have been very, very nervous, and I think it was more about being overwhelmed by the moment than anything specific about the testimony.

[Mme. Defarge]

32. Exactement!

[Tree Lady]

47. Could she have been worried about

revenge in case he won this year?

[ShazzieB]

16. You mean like Cassidy Hutchinson? *innocent look*

Seriously, I know those people were chosen for their "loyalty" (i.e., willingness to put up with any awful thing Trump did), but quite a few seem to have had their limits when put to the test. I think that's why so many people quit on him when they realized what they had signed up for.

None of us can judge how convincing Hicks' crying on the stand was, because we didn't witness it ourselves. But people can and do have what's called a change of heart. It's a real thing.

[littlemissmartypants]

38. It's the motivation for that change of heart that's questionable to me. ❤️

[ShazzieB]

49. I think i get what you mean.

Watching Chris Hayes tonight, it was pointed out that she still has positive feelings toward Trump (grateful to him for giving her opportunities, etc.) and cried because she felt emotional about having to testify against him. So I'm thinking "change of hearts" probably doesn't apply here, in the way I was suggesting.

TSF is really good at messing up the lives of people who get involved with him. And he does not care one teeny, tiny little bit. Just one of the many reasons why the word "sick" applies to hum.

[MorbidButterflyTat]

66. I agree.

I suspect being young and susceptible (IMO), she probably thought she was in love with him, in the beginning. It would not surprise me if he told her he loved her.


Edit: The positive feelings may have been for believing she had loved him, and/or that he loved her.

[NJCher]

53. That may be so, however

There is an overriding factor here, and that is her looks.

As we watched the coverage, reading the comments on the screen from inside the courtroom, there was a slideshow going on that eclipsed that of all the other witnesses. That was HH laughing with trump, walking down the airplane stairs with trump, cavorting down the sidewalk outside the WH with trump, et al, ad nauseum.

She had enough loyalty to get by but it was her looks that were the factor in her employment at the WH.

Now where did those photos come from? Sure, a few came from the media’s files, but a collection of that magnitude was requisitioned and put online by someone. That tells a lot right there.

[Attilatheblond]

68. Pretty sure it was HH who was 'body double' when Melania was NOT going to travel with him

but a taller, slightly more muscular body double was with him in outfits that matched Melania's. Even the walk was different, and there was less avoidance of TSF as Melania showed often enough.

[Attilatheblond]

69. Also, remember that Cassidy Hutchinson said, in an interview once, that Trump suggested SHE put some highlights

in her hair 'like Hope has', and Hutchinson did, for a while. Then got rid of them and wondered what she had been thinking trying to please Trump with looking like another woman. THAT was really interesting. Glad Ms Hutchinson got over that willingness to remake herself for that jerk.

[Demobrat]

4. Gave the prosecution what they needed

and realized in that moment she would never be returning to the White House. No matter what.

I find it impossible to believe she was crying for anything but her career.

[claudette]

7. 👍

[Auggie]

9. +1

[Mr.WeRP]

41. "Please explain that to your lawyer." -- Judge Merchan

Lol Trump knows he’s fffffuuuuuuuuuu now!

[NowsTheTime]

57. Why care one way or the other about her at this point?

....she gave he prosecution what they wanted....she is no longer in government....

....that's all we should care about......

[localroger]

63. This. She does care about TFG.

She just realized she gave his enemies exactly what they wanted.

[oasis]

6. He's toast. nt

[SeattleVet]

11. She's just now realizing that she'll never 'press his pants' again?

[skylucy]

29. HA! Good one!

[NJCher]

54. Funny, but an utterly revolting

Thought.

Now I’ll never get to sleep.

[yobrault1]

14. IMHO she cried because

she told the truth. Not just today, but in earlier depositions, she couldn't change her story. Today she cried because she knows she is hurting him and she really doesn't want to. She told the truth about him and he hates that but he said what he said and she ain't going to the clink for him.

[Bucky]

17. Ever pass a kidney stone? For Republicans, that's what the telling the truth is like. You'd cry too.

I mean, she's literally having to break her cognitive dissonance. It can be traumatic to be confronted with one's own culpability in betraying the Constitution.

Of course the kidney stone metaphor only applies the Republicans who possess and have been suppressing their conscience. The true sociopaths among them (aka, the leaders of the party) have no stones to pass.

[Emile]

58. +1 Great description! LOL

[johnnyfins]

18. Please. Im not buying it.

Anyone who cant see the orange shitgibbon for what he is, is an idiot or scumbag themself.

IMHO

[claudette]

45. 👍

Anyone with a conscience wouldn’t work for him without an ulterior motive

[nakocal]

19. Hicks is still a deplorable

She would still be supporting Trump if had not been caught. Now she is just covering her own ass.

[Johonny]

23. No, Hicks and many others

Are pissed at Trump for January 6th. She has stated his actions made them all poison pills and they've had trouble finding work. Where had he just walked away most would have found easy post election emoyment.

[Skittles]

26. they had trouble finding work

boo fucking hoo

they have done irreparable damage to America by pimping for Donald Fucking Trump - FUCK THEM ALL

[rzemanfl]

31. INDEED.

[Johonny]

35. Sorry but

The question isn't if she is or isn't deplorable, but when he lost her loyalty. He lost it not when he was caught, but when his actions actually hurt Hicks personally. Meaning Hicks like most Republicans only care about things when it hurts them personally. We know from her statements it wasnt the facts coming out (him getting caught) but when she realized his January 6th actions cost her personally. In some ways that's vastly more deplorable.

[Scrivener7]

40. Amen.

[dem4decades]

27. I can't believe she told the truth, what is she MAGA lite?

[58Sunliner]

28. She take lessons from Kyle?

[usonian]

34. Maybe someone switched on the fan in the back of the courtroom.

What's worse than onions?

[littlemissmartypants]

39. She lied to him several times a day every day she worked for him.

That was the essence of her job. Pacifier. She got paid big bucks to facilitate the ruining of American. She needs to cry harder and for a long, long time.

[NJCher]

55. Hacks like Hicks

Lie more than several times a day.

And yes, she needs to cry a whole lot more for her taxpayer funded role as the great pacifier to the orange shitgibbon.

[littlemissmartypants]

59. How many more than several times a day do we think she lied?

I'm curious as to why my several lies a day seem insufficient. How many more times do you think we need to add to several to establish that her number of daily lies reflect an accurate account?
❤️

[NJCher]

85. do you recall

the woman he conversed with when they were talking about General Milley and it was revealed that he was discussing a classified document? With ???? He would discuss and show this stuff to about anybody, we later found out.

If you listen to that conversation, it is one long ego massage by this woman. Sickening. If you're up to it, take a listen:

Link to tweet

To put a number on the number of conversations in which she lied, it would be every conversation they had, because these people are living in an alternative reality that is to their liking. To live in it, you have to deny reality and lie about the way things are.

They never stop lying because they are denying the way the rest of us see things. Worst of all, it's a stupid way because trump is a very stupid man.

[littlemissmartypants]

86. Do you remember...

That she testified under oath that her job with the president required her to lie?

[littlemissmartypants]

87. Six years ago...

?feature=shared

[lindysalsagal]

43. I'm hoping she also gave the trumper what she needed

To feel crushed by her previous foolishness.

[Chainfire]

61. How long before Trump claims that he doesn't know Hope Hicks and had never seen her before the trial?

[Hugin]

62. That was the moment Hicks realized the jig was up.

She was caught and it’s a wonder that she wasn’t on the other side of the bench. I really do wonder.

[Pluvious]

65. That moment when...

From TSF's perspective, she made the choice to sell him out

His fantasy crush

#DelishAF
#sad

[Evolve Dammit]

72. Katie Phang said it best: "Crocodile tears."

[senseandsensibility]

77. Yes, she and Lawrence have

Hope's number. Unfortunately, the rest of the media seems to be in love with her.

[Evolve Dammit]

82. amazing what tears can do.

[DontBelieveEastisEas]

79. NOT TRUE

at that moment she started to cry

She started to cry later, when the defense asked a question.

The statement about being fortunate for the election was in response to the prosecution.

[ecstatic]

84. Saying things out loud to other people can gin up powerful emotions

and feelings that you didn't even realize you had. It somehow makes things "real" in a way that is different from when you're just inside your own head, and next thing you know you're unexpectedly crying mid-sentence.

I think the horrors of everything she had participated in covering up bubbled to the surface. The emotions were likely regret, shame and PTSD/ trauma. I think she understands that she was a part of a disgusting, criminal campaign and administration, and last Friday she was forced to relive it and admit to it out loud, in front of the world.

I checked out Hope Hick's Wikipedia page, and it looks like she tried to leave trump numerous times but he kept demanding her return, and I guess she was too weak or felt pressured into going back.