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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsMy unintentional 3-line magat smackdown at a party. Seriously! He started it!
(I didn't know this guy.) He says he's a retired fireman from military, gulf war. Didn't see battle.
Magat: Since finding out they lied about sadam hussein I don't trust any politicians.
Me. : Makes sense.
Magat: We're about to face a civil war.
Me: No we won't. We're too fat and happy.
Magat: But now we have to stop the immigrants at the border.
Me: Imaginary election wedge issue. Mexicans are good workers. We need them, and most illegals fly into airports from the far east.
Magat: Speechless shock. (I AM a woman, and therefore must agree with all patriarchy)
Me. The Dems offered the GOP a border deal and the GOP refused to even hear it.
Magat: (Clearly upset) I'm not discussing this any more! Left 10 minutes later without another word.
Guy sitting next to him: Why'd he leave in such a hurry?
Me: Dunno.
Bucky
(55,334 posts)*a snowflake in May*
ret5hd
(22,488 posts)Martin68
(27,665 posts)chromalyn
(4 posts)just a fine point
it was a prominent GOP Senator who crafted a fairly hard right leaning bipartisan-ish bill that the GOP controlled house refused to bring to the floor for a vote. Dems had nothing to do with an outside influencer compelling the GOP to sabotage their own legislation.
I know its water under the bridge but thats an extra hard wallop to a fragile MAGA ego.
brewens
(15,359 posts)That's half the problem. Once they did that some solutions would be simple.
If they have agreed on how many immigrants we should let in there is no reason many of them wouldn't be asylum seekers. They would have no excuse not to improve and streamline the asylum process then. Clear up that clusterfuck and then deal with how we stop people sneaking in.
Make it clear the border is not open and if you come here, you won't get in without a good reason. The incessant harping about open borders is not helpful. Hopeful immigrants hear that and believe it and we get more people trying.
yardwork
(69,307 posts)MuseRider
(35,176 posts)I am SO fucking over that. We all are. How to end this. I wish I knew. I never knew you had to have a **** to think. Never occured to me but I am reminded frequently that I could not possibly understand these difficult issues without one.
soldierant
(9,348 posts)(and when I say "our" i mean the entire human racce.) They are thinking with the wrong head.
txwhitedove
(4,384 posts)"Heheh, out of the mouths of babes." That was 1971, when this girl read newspapers cover to cover.
czarjak
(13,629 posts)GB_RN
(3,554 posts)They never escaped the adolescent stage of only thinking with their dicks. And we all know how well that works out for you. At least, those of us whose pre-frontal cortexes* were able to fully mature and amygdalae** didnt get too large.
*This is the section of the brain thats responsible for rational thinking/decision making. Its not fully developed until about age 25. This is why when teens do stupid shit and we ask, What were you thinking?, they can honestly tell you they werent. At least, not thinking rationally.
**It has been scientifically shown that those with enlarged (or damaged) amygdalae are more likely to be conservative, as they are more susceptible to fear and anger. The amygdalae are the parts of the brain that regulate responses to fight/flight, and larger size correlates to heightened responses.
Its been known for far longer that fear and anger are easily manipulated. Faux Nuz, OANN, SpewsMax constantly beat the fear/anger drums and the GOPQ have been masters at manipulating these emotions for decades, even before this link was established.
calimary
(89,930 posts)hadEnuf
(3,605 posts)and coordinated form of psychological manipulation being done. I'm talking about being professionally guided.
Not to be tinfoil hat, but it really wouldn't be too hard to get that type of help from ex-military or civilian "true believers".
Propaganda is a science and has been used by civilian and military sources for years and years.
KS Toronado
(23,727 posts)are they the ones warning you about immigrants at the border?
usonian
(25,105 posts)Last edited Sat May 4, 2024, 04:29 PM - Edit history (1)
Well, it's OK for me (we) to do it, but not for others.
Because I have "privilege"
God gave it to me.
Even though I am deeply flawed.
I am forgiven and you're not.
Because
(cue Mario Lanza recording).
Ford_Prefect
(8,601 posts)IronLionZion
(51,205 posts)Biden is such a socialist that we have record high jobs and stock market.
flying_wahini
(8,274 posts)Dont start no shit and there wont be no shit.
I just love it when folks start up cuz I love to zing them hard.
Magas can be so much fun.
dchill
(42,660 posts)bluboid
(845 posts)Initech
(108,675 posts)lindysalsagal
(22,903 posts)and I shot them all down! Ha!
calimary
(89,930 posts)There's a guy who's uncomfortable when having to face a smart, well-informed woman.
live love laugh
(16,369 posts)Joinfortmill
(21,088 posts)czarjak
(13,629 posts)That's broad brush to cover a fat-ass.
GoCubsGo
(34,889 posts)one of the largest, and often THE largest group of "illegal" immigrants are Canadians who overstayed their visas.
3Hotdogs
(15,337 posts)BlueWaveNeverEnd
(14,125 posts)truepatriot4131
(7 posts)i lovve the little gif in your quote
sop
(18,519 posts)Good response, we shouldn't fall into the trap of debating issues on their terms. Whenever some RWer starts complaining that immigrants are coming to America, I just respond "yeah, that's a good thing." Completely throws them off their game.
I respond the same way when they complain about raising taxes on the wealthy, or banning fossil fuels, or making healthcare free for everyone, or allowing women to make their own reproductive choices, or teaching school kids about slavery, or any of their other bullshit RW talking point wedge issues.