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FakeNoose

(41,637 posts)
Sat May 4, 2024, 03:16 PM May 2024

Today is Derby Day in Louisville - is anyone making a prediction for the Kentucky Derby?

I used to attend the Derby regularly but that was many years ago. I've sort of lost touch. Here's one guy's predictions:



Link: https://www.horseracingnation.com/news/Kentucky_Derby_odds_update_applying_fair_odds_to_settled_market_123

Maybe I'll have a mint julep while the horses are running.

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Today is Derby Day in Louisville - is anyone making a prediction for the Kentucky Derby? (Original Post) FakeNoose May 2024 OP
I just hope and pray no horses are injured or die. Lunabell May 2024 #1
EXACTLY!!! niyad May 2024 #3
Animal abuse is sociopathic. Marcus IM May 2024 #10
They got rid of the inhumane dog racing. Lunabell May 2024 #15
Here in the Southwest, we see how much more abuse there is that most people are unaware of. Attilatheblond May 2024 #33
+1 demmiblue May 2024 #17
i was going to be much more graphic in expressing my disgust for this event, but your answer says it better. Takket May 2024 #21
I try to be civil. Lunabell May 2024 #22
This message was self-deleted by its author speak easy May 2024 #2
Thank you for the reminder to check out the hats later. niyad May 2024 #4
The winning horse will be SocialDemocrat61 May 2024 #5
Horse racing is such a conundrum for me Goodheart May 2024 #6
whips are the least of the problems tbh WhiskeyGrinder May 2024 #14
Well, here's my prediction: Goodheart May 2024 #7
I was at the Derby and saw Secretariat win FakeNoose May 2024 #20
OK, I'm f*cking jealous. Goodheart May 2024 #25
I think the year before that Canonero II won FakeNoose May 2024 #26
Secretariat was 1973. I remember it so well. Goodheart May 2024 #28
Muth takes the field in the Preakness Johonny May 2024 #8
For the trifecta Emile May 2024 #9
Picking the favorites FakeNoose May 2024 #19
No prediction Marthe48 May 2024 #11
I asked the horses and they said........ Ladyhawke1 May 2024 #12
Steve Kornacki with his stats and numbers. SheilaAnn May 2024 #13
Yes, I was going to post about that. I thought I was on the wrong Nixie May 2024 #34
Rooting for Dornoch --Jayson Werth one of the owners. Kingofalldems May 2024 #16
He's gonna need some racing luck when they turn for home... twogunsid May 2024 #30
Same here! Dornoch for a lot of intangibles, plus a cool name Nixie May 2024 #37
Trump won't win it. DemocraticPatriot May 2024 #18
Put it all on Lucky Dan- half a million dollars to win usonian May 2024 #23
I was in the Derby infield the year the filly, Genuine Risk, won Bayard May 2024 #24
I can't believe how many people are packed into the infield now FakeNoose May 2024 #27
And most never see a horse! Bayard May 2024 #39
Liking Honor Marie and Forever Young happybird May 2024 #29
I think I'll go with... lobointexas May 2024 #31
West Saratoga CanonRay May 2024 #32
A great story, too happybird May 2024 #36
Tom Waits said it best - k55f5r May 2024 #35
I predict, no, am sure, that horses were abused today in this cruel "sport". NoRethugFriends May 2024 #38

Attilatheblond

(8,880 posts)
33. Here in the Southwest, we see how much more abuse there is that most people are unaware of.
Sat May 4, 2024, 06:38 PM
May 2024

Too many race horses bred, so too many are disposable when they don't show promise early in life. The 'extras' and those who get injured to the point they won't win big pots of money often get sent here (AZ) then shuffled to illegal races here and south of the border. They are abused beyond your worst nightmares, made to run despite crippling pain and injuries.

Daughter did volunteer work for several years at a horse rescue. So many sad tales of horses run until they couldn't walk, turned out in the desert to fend for themselves, starving unless some rescue people and animal control find them and save what ones they can.

Over and over, too many race horses just put out to die alone in the desert. Some of the lucky ones get caught, treated, cared for and sometimes even adopted to be pets. Too often, that is NOT the end result. Too many, weak, injured, left out in the desert to get attacked and killed by coyotes and/or packs of dogs who have also been just left out on the desert.

I have seen photos that would make you sob for a week. I cry again, just remembering. My daughter was holding the head of a once beautiful racehorse as the vets and rescue people worked to save him. Once he was stable, they checked for the tattoo most racers get. He was a brother of the beloved Barbaro, but he didn't chalk up wins in the first two races he was run in, so he was 'sent down' to lesser tracks and eventually left in the desert to starve. Money was raised and care given. He tried, he really did. He had heart and lived for a while, getting the best care volunteers could get him, the love he always deserved for just being a sweet creature. When he finally told his caregivers he was done, so many hearts were broken as he was given freedom from his fight.

And he is not the only one, not by a long shot. It is obscene what happens to the 'extra' race horses who get bred by rich assholes in hopes of getting rich selling them to richer assholes who want glory but never earn it themselves.

Thus it is with too many of the playthings of the ultra rich and bored. They brag about their acquisitions and just abandon the ones who don't bring them the 'glory'. Horse racing is violent and inhumane. And most people don't even know the half of it.

Takket

(23,715 posts)
21. i was going to be much more graphic in expressing my disgust for this event, but your answer says it better.
Sat May 4, 2024, 04:41 PM
May 2024
 

Lunabell

(7,309 posts)
22. I try to be civil.
Sat May 4, 2024, 04:51 PM
May 2024

I'm not sure everone knows how cruel horse racing is. And deadly, at times. Horses are such beautiful creatures and I love seeing them freely galloping in a field. I'm not even saying don't ride them. I'm just not sure there's a way to humanely race horses.

I had a horse when I was a teenager. One day I was depressed and crying. She put her head on my shoulder, cuddled me and when I looked at her face after sobbing into her neck, she had tears in her eyes. You can't tell me that she did not feel my sadness.

Response to FakeNoose (Original post)

 

Goodheart

(5,760 posts)
6. Horse racing is such a conundrum for me
Sat May 4, 2024, 03:24 PM
May 2024

Given the whips I really shouldn't like it as much as I do. In fact, I should condemn it until they outlaw the whips.

 

Goodheart

(5,760 posts)
7. Well, here's my prediction:
Sat May 4, 2024, 03:27 PM
May 2024

None of these horses will break Secretariat's 51 year old winning time record.

And here's something I already know: none of these horses are as beautiful as was the Big Red Tremendous Machine.

FakeNoose

(41,637 posts)
26. I think the year before that Canonero II won
Sat May 4, 2024, 05:30 PM
May 2024

I saw that one too. I'm pretty sure it was 1971. Secretariat was either 1 or 2 years after that.

Johonny

(26,182 posts)
8. Muth takes the field in the Preakness
Sat May 4, 2024, 03:31 PM
May 2024

Fierceness best horse to date but in a horrible post.

FakeNoose

(41,637 posts)
19. Picking the favorites
Sat May 4, 2024, 04:39 PM
May 2024

I usually do that too, especially because I don't study horses.

Marthe48

(23,175 posts)
11. No prediction
Sat May 4, 2024, 03:41 PM
May 2024

This post is the first list I've seen of the horses and riders. Won't watch the race till it's over, and only if I hear there were no accidents :/

I have about 60 Kentucky Derby julep glasses. I donated 12 to the local Dem HQ. They were participating in the local First Friday event last night, which has a derby theme. I thought the glasses might help with fund raising.

Ladyhawke1

(38 posts)
12. I asked the horses and they said........
Sat May 4, 2024, 03:41 PM
May 2024

......they are trying not to let the dumb jockey and their foolish owners get them shot.

Nixie

(17,984 posts)
34. Yes, I was going to post about that. I thought I was on the wrong
Sat May 4, 2024, 06:42 PM
May 2024

channel, but it was really him at the Derby with his chalkboard performance.

Kingofalldems

(40,279 posts)
16. Rooting for Dornoch --Jayson Werth one of the owners.
Sat May 4, 2024, 04:23 PM
May 2024

I would put my money on Sierra Leone though.

twogunsid

(1,639 posts)
30. He's gonna need some racing luck when they turn for home...
Sat May 4, 2024, 05:48 PM
May 2024

...but, yes, Sierra Leone is the best horse in the race.

Nixie

(17,984 posts)
37. Same here! Dornoch for a lot of intangibles, plus a cool name
Sat May 4, 2024, 06:47 PM
May 2024

and owner. But Sierra Leone seems to be rising in the betting and hype.

usonian

(25,329 posts)
23. Put it all on Lucky Dan- half a million dollars to win
Sat May 4, 2024, 04:56 PM
May 2024

uhh, maybe to place.


WAIT! Here's the call.

Bayard

(29,703 posts)
24. I was in the Derby infield the year the filly, Genuine Risk, won
Sat May 4, 2024, 05:06 PM
May 2024

It was amazing. I won money on her, because the friend I was with had a dream that the filly would win.

We had camped out at the gates the night before, (file under young and stupid). The infield is one big crazy party I definitely did NOT care for (I caught some guy trying to pick-pocket me.) But, it was an experience to remember. FYI--Derby Pie is far superior to a mint julep.

No predictions for today. I get a better idea when I watch them headed for the post.

FakeNoose

(41,637 posts)
27. I can't believe how many people are packed into the infield now
Sat May 4, 2024, 05:33 PM
May 2024

In the years that I was there in Louisville only about 5,000 or so could go in the infield.
Now they have more like 20 or 25 thousand in there. Way too crowded for me.



happybird

(5,393 posts)
29. Liking Honor Marie and Forever Young
Sat May 4, 2024, 05:47 PM
May 2024

Last edited Sat May 4, 2024, 06:26 PM - Edit history (1)

but haven't made my final choices yet...

Edit: adding Catching Freedom to my top 3. He was the first one who stood out and he just caught my eye again.

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