Netanyahu says Israel will keep fighting in Gaza until victory

[David__77]

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said the country will continue the war in the Gaza Strip until all objectives have been achieved, and blamed the Palestinian militant group Hamas for stalled negotiations over a temporary ceasefire.

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Netanyahu said that Israel has shown flexibility during the negotiations in Cairo, while Hamas was sticking to its "extreme positions, first and foremost the withdrawal of our forces from the Strip, the conclusion of the war and leaving Hamas intact."

https://www.yahoo.com/news/netanyahu-says-israel-keep-fighting-131723384.html

[Bengus81]

1. Of course...that's how Yahoo keeps his job for another week,month,year. n/t

[BeyondGeography]

2. It's going to be Bibi with the football torturing Biden right up to the election

rooting for Trump all the while.

And for what? Ending Hamas is a pipedream; Bibi is a one-man recruitment driver for them. Time we figured out how to stop playing this game.

[MattBaggins]

3. In other words

Until they finally annex it

[claudette]

4. Exactly

my thought, too.

[Lonestarblue]

18. Yep. Jared Kushner already has plans for developing Gaza's waterfront property.

And Bibi no doubt has his eye on the huge gas deposits he has prevented Palestinians from exploiting for decades.

[haele]

33. Apparently Netanyahu has not defined victory other than

Quotes from the Torah describing the complete destruction of the Amalek people down to infants and livestock.
Does not sound good for any Palestinians in Israel, Gaza, or the West Bank, including those who of mixed Palestinian Muslim/Christian or Muslim/Jewish descent who currently are "official" Israeli citizens.
In fact, it sounds no different than the Arab politicians declaration of the removal of Jews "from the River to the Sea".

I guess total destruction of your enemy, including anyone who can grow up to be your enemy, is a valid definition of a victory.
A dangerously familiar "moral agenda" similar that heard often in 19th century America from which the term "From Little Nits come annoying Ticks" - the justification to wipe out entire tribal groups of indigenous Americans or outsider religious groups, which now seems to be the replacement of "Never Again" this century.

Haele

[leftstreet]

5. So how is this not ethnic cleansing? n/t

[EX500rider]

7. Most countries try to fight a war till victory

If they don't defeat the last Hamas battalions and have them all either dead or surrendered than the war was pointless they'll just be right back where they were sooner than later

[leftstreet]

12. Have they defeated the Hamas Air Force? Hamas Navy?

Yes, they must "fight on" til the end

[EX500rider]

23. Yes they have mostly defeated the Hamas Air Force which consist of uavs & rocket teams

And defeated most of the Hamas Navy which consist of small craft which tried to land terrorists behind the lines

Not sure what your point was you don't have to have a Navy or an Air Force to be in a war.

Did the Taliban have an Air Force or a Navy?

Unless your point was it was stupid of hamas to start a war without a proper military then yes I agree

[LeftInTX]

36. Not yet

3 soldiers killed, 11 others hurt in Hamas rocket attack from south Gaza’s Rafah

Troops stationed on border near Kerem Shalom hit by barrage fired from one of terror group’s last strongholds; in response, Israel seals crossing where aid trucks pass through

https://www.timesofisrael.com/at-least-10-israelis-hurt-in-hamas-rocket-attack-from-south-gazas-rafah/?utm_source=article_hpsidebar&utm_medium=desktop_site&utm_campaign=liveblog_entry

[Ponietz]

29. 70 years of peace for South Korea wasn't worth much by this analysis

[EX500rider]

34. I am guessing S Korea would have preferred a total victory & a unified Korea

"70 years of peace" sort of..

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_border_incidents_involving_North_and_South_Korea

I'd list them here but there are too many

[Ponietz]

35. Same for the North Korea

Glad you’re not Secretary of State.

[EX500rider]

37. Yes, it turned out so well for the N Korean citizens, right?

I mean except for the labor camps and total lack of any freedom and the starvation etc....

[Ponietz]

38. Not my problem

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The security of South Koreans is the U.S. concern. By terms of the negotiated ceasefire North Koreans’ fate lies in others’ hands.

[EX500rider]

39. So I assume the people of Gaza also "not your problem"?

[Ponietz]

41. Have a nice day

[David__77]

8. The point is to make civilian life impossible.

[dembotoz]

6. final solution

[womanofthehills]

10. Won't let men & older boys leave Rafah -sounds very bad

“Israel planning ring of checkpoints to prevent men from fleeing Rafah, source says
Israel is reportedly setting up a 'complex network' of checkpoints to prevent 'military age' men from fleeing Rafah assault, says senior western official”

“The creation of gender-based checkpoints around Rafah would put a spotlight back on Israel's practice of stripping and forcibly detaining male Palestinian men and children, as it faces rising scrutiny in the West of its conduct in the war.”


https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/exclusive-israel-planning-ring-checkpoints-prevent-men-fleeing-rafah

[dembotoz]

11. Israeli cable provider halts Al Jazeera broadcasts, citing government ban

might be even worse

[David__77]

13. The intention is to liquidate it and with it the possibility of civilian life.

[Think. Again.]

27. Gotta keep those fish in the barrel.

[Fla Dem]

9. How does Netanyahu define victory? The complete annihilation of Gaza including all the women and children?

[TheBlackAdder]

17. Destroying Palestinians & Helping Trump win a reelection.

[aocommunalpunch]

14. They get our money why again?

Stop dragging our name through the mud for their issues. They’re big boys and girls and can fucking do their dirty work for themselves. Fucking enough.

[MOMFUDSKI]

15. He and the clown both stalling to stay out of

prison. Sickening

[Ping Tung]

16. Bibi wants to be seen and rembered as a "tough" leader.

He will send out the killers to do the dirty work and kill thousands of civilians to prove it.

Voltaire, "Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities."

[TBF]

19. The far right Israelis and Hamas are really not all that different -

each seek destruction of the other. So many dying as a result. As always, I agree with Bernie Sanders on this one - continuing to send them weapons makes us complicit. As much as I love Israel, what Bibi is doing is wrong (and he's doing it to save his own career above all - he's not a good person).

Kuschner is going to get his condos along the beaches of Gaza the way this is going.

[KentuckyWoman]

20. His idea of victory NO Palestinians.

It is too late for "victory". No matter what the outcome, everyone has already lost. It is just a matter of how much more loss will they have before it stops this time.

[Prairie Gates]

21. Hasta la victoria siempre!

[JI7]

22. How long will Gaza keep the hostages they kidnapped from Israel ?

[jalan48]

24. Will this be dependent on the US taxpayers helping foot the bill?

[thomski64]

25. ..fight until victory..

..sounds more succinct in it's
original.."Kampf bis zum Zieg"

[RockRaven]

26. Meaningless unless one also defines what victory means or looks like.

Same empty bullshit sloganeering that GW Bush et al used in Iraq and Afghanistan, generally means "we're going to keep killing somebody day after day because we don't know what else to do."

[Think. Again.]

28. I don't see how Israel will ever recover it's standing in the world after this.

[LetMyPeopleVote]

30. A large number of Israelis are protesting against Bibi and want to vote him out

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[TomDaisy]

31. This sickening ghoul - massacring children a scheme to hold onto power

[David__77]

32. I do think that remaining in power may be a consideration.

I think the overriding consideration is to attack the general population and make continued life there impossible.

[LetMyPeopleVote]

40. Israelis are protesting for Ceasefire, the return of their loved ones and for Netanyahu to step down.

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