Rebels without a clue.

[paleotn]

University endowments show few signs of direct Israel, defense holdings

As some universities strike deals with pro-Palestinian student groups to discuss calls for school endowments to stop investing in Israel and defense stocks, an examination of available public documents by The Washington Post finds few direct holdings in either by the largest public school endowments, underscoring the difficulty in any potential attempt to ultimately satisfy protesters’ divestment demands.

https://wapo.st/44qXuZk

I guess all the finance students who know how to actually check such things were busy taking their finals. Or did it even matter to begin with? Maybe the point of those driving the protest is something different.

[RandomNumbers]

1. There are many involved in these protests who are genuine

But I'm convinced the big picture is manipulation of the Gaza events to harm Joe Biden's electoral prospects this November. Which of course is for a bigger goal of controlling the U.S. (probably by Pootie).

That doesn't mean I think what is happening in Gaza is in any way okay. But it is a complex foreign relations issue that is being over-simplified and manipulated for a purpose that doesn't give a sh*t about children suffering anywhere, let alone specifically in Gaza.

(what about Ukraine? Sudan? myriad other situations around the globe? Right here in the U.S.?)

I also find suspicious the timing of Oct. 7th and the escalation it has wrought.

To the big players, the average person at that festival, and the children suffering in Gaza and everywhere else, are nothing more than pawns on a chessboard. Of no more significance to the would-be puppeteers than the dirt they knocked off their shoes this morning.

Who should we really be protesting and working against?

[paleotn]

6. My thoughts exactly.

[gulliver]

15. This

[Prairie Gates]

2. This is dishonest: most protests are asking schools to DISCLOSE and divest

The problem is that it's unclear what the endowments are doing, as the article readily confirms in the the paragraphs right after the one you posted:

Those demands came despite the students having little information about where U.S. college endowments actually put their money. The schools — which sit on holdings worth a staggering $850 billion combined — must disclose some of their largest public stakes in annual regulatory filings but are not required to fully disclose their holdings. They generally refuse to divulge precise details behind their investments. Even public universities’ annual reports and regulatory filings are light on specifics.

I guess the finance students don't actually have access to this information either.

From the information that can be discerned, the rest of the article in some ways disputes the headline, identifying numerous investments in weapons manufacturers that work with Israel.

[paleotn]

7. Small, sometimes insignificant investments. That was the author's point.

That doesn't fit the preconceived narrative, does it. And why divest? Are all Israeli companies responsible for Bibi's activities? Are you responsible for Trump's policies as president? Or are you saying endowment funds shouldn't invest in Israeli companies because.....they're Jewish? Or do you just like to over simplify complex issues?

By the way, in the information age, it takes some leg work but it's certainly not impossible to find out who owns certain publicly traded companies. Maybe they should spend some energy on that instead of itching to fight with the police. I'm thinking for some, the later was the whole point.

[Prairie Gates]

9. All the easier to scuttle those investments, then

Your other points about why they should divest are certainly relevant to another discussion.

You keep saying that one can track these specific investments down, but the article says exactly otherwise. The article you posted.

[WhiskeyGrinder]

3. Did wapo just look at public schools? Many of the agreements at private schools involve commitments to review

investments/endowments/etc., and to consider serious proposals to divest. But I get it, it can be fun to shit on people trying to change things sometimes.

ETA: Yep, looks like the reporter just went for publicly available documents and records, which of course are more widely available at public universities.

[paleotn]

8. The rest takes more legwork but isn't impossible.

Like I said, the finance students were busy with exams.

[Prairie Gates]

10. You're wrong about that

You just keep making the assertion, but you have no evidence for it and it is specifically disputed in the very article that you posted.

Your assumption that none of the protesters are finance students (who are smart and busy, unlike these interpretive dance majors, or whatever your obnoxious point it supposed to be) is also unfounded and presented merely as assertion.

Feel free to make a coherent, evidence-based argument whenever you get a chance.

[paleotn]

11. In the information age, it's not necessarily easy, but it's not impossible.

The rest is snark. You know snark, don't you? I tend to use a lot of snark on protestors without a clue. Their grossly simplistic and childish view of the world demands it. Same with MAGAs. The two have a lot in common.

Oh...another question I posted that wasn't answered. Why divest? Are all Israeli companies in bed with Bibi? Were you responsible for Trump's policies as president? Or should they divest simply because the companies have ties to Jews? Simply question. What's your answer?

[Prairie Gates]

12. Yes, snark and evidence-less assertion

What a wonderful mode of discourse. With your OP in shambles, now you try to change the subject.

As it stands, I don't give a fuck about whether they should divest or not. In fact, I disagree with much of what the protesters are doing, but your OP was dishonest and I don't like that, so I called it out.

[paleotn]

13. And I couldn't give two shits what you dislike. I stand by it.

[Prairie Gates]

14. Enjoy your day, buddy

[Irish_Dem]

4. It was never about the facts.

[WalkerinSC]

5. Just as a thought experiment

Will the divestment students also be demanding all schools divest from government support (the group sending actual weapons, expertise, and dollars to Isreal) and stopping all student loans?

The end answer is the end of Hamas, Hezzbollah, other proxy groups, illegal settler groups, and zero sum end gamers. Both sides have to admit 2 main groups have historical ties to a spot of land and accept a 2 state solution or accept that the killing won't stop until a 3rd party imposes its will to the satisfaction of no one or the elimination of one group which is unacceptable.

[republianmushroom]

16. Believe paleotn, nails it with the last sentence.