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salinen

(7,288 posts)
Tue Nov 27, 2012, 11:22 PM Nov 2012

The Thugs will be punished again in 2014?

O.K. But that should not satisfy any Progressive. They are continuing to be obstructionists without missing a beat. There is no better time to be completely anti-republican policy than now. We should without a doubt blow up the filibuster. It's been deadly since Obama took office, so how could it get worse?

If landslide election victories mean nothing, why the hell should I vote?

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The Thugs will be punished again in 2014? (Original Post) salinen Nov 2012 OP
First of all the new Congress hasn't started. When it does, we will see still_one Nov 2012 #1
We need every vote. Lets see what happens first. hrmjustin Nov 2012 #2
I agree. It's time to start moving leftward again. IDoMath Nov 2012 #3
kick Baitball Blogger Nov 2012 #4
Apathy Is Sure To Set In... KharmaTrain Nov 2012 #5
I'm saying salinen Nov 2012 #10
I Expect Things To Be A Bit Different... KharmaTrain Nov 2012 #12
Please continue to vote abelenkpe Nov 2012 #6
It sure was salinen Nov 2012 #9
If we can overcome gerrymandering we have a chance catbyte Nov 2012 #7
and minorities salinen Nov 2012 #8
Agree upi402 Nov 2012 #11
Don't get complacent. backscatter712 Nov 2012 #13
I am glad to see that someone remembers recent history ProgressiveProfessor Nov 2012 #14
 

IDoMath

(404 posts)
3. I agree. It's time to start moving leftward again.
Tue Nov 27, 2012, 11:33 PM
Nov 2012

Enough of racing to the right. Time to be progressive again.

KharmaTrain

(31,706 posts)
5. Apathy Is Sure To Set In...
Tue Nov 27, 2012, 11:37 PM
Nov 2012

As we see here, no sooner than the President is re-elected, the "pony riders" start showing. They have their special interest that the President isn't doing anything or enough about or isn't doing things the way they want. We'll soon hear about how hard this person worked and how they feel their vote was wasted...la di da. Some may be warranted and surely the angst here will once again lead to some nasty flame wars and Monday morning quarterbacking. Overall, this, and Democrats in general, are a diverse group who united to prevent this country from going over the fiscal and moral abyss, but now to the victor goes the spoils...and as is the case in every feast, someone will never feel like they got their "fair share" or liked where they're seated at the table.

I'm hoping that OFA, the DNC, DCCC and DSCC do keep up the pressure...not to let things slide in '14 like they did in '10. Hopefully the rushpublicans will assist in their ongoing obstructionism and attacks on anyone who isn't an angry old white guy.

Cheers...

 

salinen

(7,288 posts)
10. I'm saying
Wed Nov 28, 2012, 12:15 AM
Nov 2012

we won big. But you can't just sit back because the thugs only know how to be thugs. I keep hearing that if obstruction continues, then the thugs will be further punished at the polls. That may satisfy some, but not me. That's too far away.

KharmaTrain

(31,706 posts)
12. I Expect Things To Be A Bit Different...
Wed Nov 28, 2012, 12:29 AM
Nov 2012

...and a good part of it is because the President's re-election affirmed the need to move this country in a direction different than what the rushpublicans dream of. It meant more people understood the mess President Obama inherited in '09 and that giving them power again was sure ruin for the economy. Without having to worry about another election, the President can, and I expect, will be a lot more aggressive in pushing through a wide range of legislation...similar to what Bill Clinton did in the 90s...forcing the rushpublicans to put up or shut up.

I'm hoping people learned from '10...and that there will be a stronger push to remove more teabaggers and retake the House. History says this is a big mountain to climb as few Presidents in their 6th year see their party gain seats...look at what happened to boooosh in '06. However, we're seeing how the great unhinged still haven't figured out why they lost and will continue to poke sticks in the eyes of the coalition that defeated them two weeks ago and will continue to suffer at the ballot box. The key is how many red state women, hispanics, blacks and other groups will be energized to show at the polls...that is what will make a big difference...

abelenkpe

(9,933 posts)
6. Please continue to vote
Wed Nov 28, 2012, 12:07 AM
Nov 2012

And encourage others to as well. I'd certainly enjoy seeing the republicans lose yet again

catbyte

(39,153 posts)
7. If we can overcome gerrymandering we have a chance
Wed Nov 28, 2012, 12:08 AM
Nov 2012

I think the House could be seriously in play on the strength of the Republican War on Women alone. With more states going Red, we're sure to see more horrific legislation like Ohio's Fetal Heartbeat bill (hello Ireland), de-funding Planned Parenthood, and my state's ludicrous tax break for fetuses--which is currently bogged down in committee but the chair promised to bring it up next year. I am convinced we women are the key.

backscatter712

(26,357 posts)
13. Don't get complacent.
Wed Nov 28, 2012, 12:35 AM
Nov 2012

Remember right after 2008 when Obama first took office, we had control of both houses of Congress, we now had the presidency, the Republicans were utterly crushed, and we thought we were invincible. It only took two years before the GOP came back with the Tea Party and retook Congress.

Do. Not. Get. Complacent.

It is clear that we're going to have to fight tooth and nail and wrest every inch of territory from the rethugs by force.

ProgressiveProfessor

(22,144 posts)
14. I am glad to see that someone remembers recent history
Wed Nov 28, 2012, 12:02 PM
Nov 2012

I expect that it will be hotly contested (as always) and there is no way to tell which way it will go.

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