NYT: Mediators 'frustrated' by Hamas's rejection of deal terms it proposed in March

[Beastly Boy]

After Israel made a new, far-reaching offer late last month, Hamas promised to come back with a new offer, which eventually emerged yesterday evening.

The NYT quotes anonymous sources who indicate that in its late-April proposal, Israel “virtually cut and pasted” language from a March Hamas proposal, in order to call the terror group’s bluff.

It worked. Hamas’s rejection of Israel’s offer over the weekend “frustrated the intermediaries because it rejected some of the very language that it had previously proposed.”

The US negotiators publicly decried the Hamas position, and warned that talks would be seen as over if Hamas did not actually want a deal.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/nyt-mediators-frustrated-by-hamass-now-rejecting-deal-terms-it-proposed-in-march/

[Happyone]

1. May 2024 Ceasefire proposal from Egypt and Qatari

I didn't want you to be behind on what is happening currently, this month.

What you posted is old news. The link below will catch you up.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/working-hamas-accepts-ceasefire-deal/

Have a great day!

[AZSkiffyGeek]

2. The article was from today, but your condescension is noted.

Welcome to DU!

[Happyone]

5. Thank You!

[yagotme]

3. An article from today is "old news"?

"Last month" was all of a week ago. Sheesh.

[Happy Hoosier]

8. There is a contingent here willing to carry Hamas' water

becasue ISRAEL BAD.

[yagotme]

9. Yes, I am totally aware of that... nt

[Beastly Boy]

4. This is not late breaking news. We have a separate forum for that.

You are not suggesting that what happened in the recent past does not count, are you?

[BannonsLiver]

6. LMAO

The other poster links a story published TODAY and you link one from YESTERDAY but they need to catch up?

Today is Tuesday, btw. 😉

[PCIntern]

7. Arafat had rejected the formation of a Palestinian state

It’s NOT what they wanted. They wanted Israel. Not happening.

[Happyone]

10. English is my second language

I feel all of you made fun of what I wrote and I feel bullied. English is not my first language and I'm a senior. Lighten up!

Is this how you typically treat people?

What I meant, is the ceasefire post had to do with March and I posted about a current ceasefire proposal for this month. That is all I was doing.

[yagotme]

11. The "recent" proposal was "copied" from a March proposal.

Hamas refused it last week, although it contained provisions that Hamas had previously accepted, in March. That is what the poster was presenting, that Hamas doesn't really want to end this. It seems that you didn't catch this, your ESL possibly being the culprit for that. Keep trying, English has some tricky rules, just keep slogging along.

[Happyone]

13. Thank you for responding nicely

Probably so on the ESL...sigh

What I have read is the proposal was from Hamas. Netanyahu, etc. rejected it. Egypt and Qatari edited the Hamas proposal on the hostage and ceasefire plan. I don't find any information on the original Hamas plan but see the revised offer from Egypt-Qatari. It's in 3 phases.

Am I right in my understanding?

[yagotme]

14. Haven't seen a whole lot on the details.

I find it strange that there are those on this site that automatically condemn Israel for rejecting a proposal from Hamas, before the proposal was even fully released. 30-ish hostages to be released, and some of those deceased, isn't much of a concession from Hamas.

[Happyone]

16. I want to know

if my comprehension is correct. I'm not condemning anyone, I'm trying to understand completely. Did I misunderstand anything?

[yagotme]

17. From what little I have seen so far, yes, you are correct.

Now, if some of the info is wrong, that's a different story.

[Happyone]

18. Smile

Ok, whew! I'm sure you will let me know if something is off. Thank you again.

[yagotme]

19. No problem.

[Beastly Boy]

12. We have so much in common!

English is my second language, I am a senior, and I am a fan of snark.

But when I get snarky I don't pretend that I am only conveying information. And when I get snark in response, it doesn't make me feel bullied.

[Happyone]

15. Thank you for responding

That's great you don't feel bullied. Everyone has their own response to situations. I'm different than you.

I'm witty and snarky as well, but when it comes to serious issues (for me), I believe it stirs trouble. For example: I'm upset with all of the original responses...zero respect. So with that being said, we all know about first impressions and mine on this thread are not good. It's sad to me.

[Sympthsical]

20. And people immediately fell for it

Imagine just taking a genocidal theocratic medieval terrorist organization's word for it.

I will say, because credit where due, the effusive dissemination of propaganda fell off almost immediately - immediately - as soon as people actually, you know, read the words instead of . . . taking a genocidal theocratic medieval terrorist organization's word for it.

Shit sank like a stone once the water-carriers realized how truly stupid they were about to look.

This is weirdly kind of progress.

[Happyone]

21. Your post is complicated for me to understand. I'm sorry

Fell for what? I followed the line from your post up to mine. I'm confused. Is it they fell for the article about March? My post about ESL as a second language? Fell for my confusion? Is "fell for it" about the other posters? Is it the Egypt-Qatar info?

If you want folks like me to understand, don't write with complexity. I'm not sure what to make of it, is it making fun of me?

Oops, I now see where your post went to Beastly Boy. Sorry about this

[Cha]

22. Mahalo, Sympthsical..

[mcar]

23. So, once again, MSM

falls for Hamas' lies and everything is Israel's fault.