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riversedge

(80,026 posts)
Tue May 7, 2024, 12:05 PM May 2024

Speaker Johnson says congress will try to interfere with Trump's legal cases....

I have not been near a TV this morning but is is astounding--almost unbelievable
That a speaker of the House would say they would interfere in criminal cases like this!!





@Acyn
Johnson: President Trump has done nothing wrong… it has to stop and you’re going to see the Congress address this in every possible way because we need accountability. All these cases need to be dropped because they are a threat to our entire system




Speaker Johnson says congress will try to interfere with Trump’s legal cases




Acyn
@Acyn
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Johnson: President Trump has done nothing wrong… it has to stop and you’re going to see the Congress address this in every possible way because we need accountability. All these cases need to be dropped because they are a threat to our entire system
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@ChidiNwatu
Holding someone accountable for their crimes is not a threat to our entire system. Despite Congress's lack of authority to halt these cases, it's still okay for Johnson to be wishful.





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Speaker Johnson says congress will try to interfere with Trump's legal cases.... (Original Post) riversedge May 2024 OP
Fascinating how for this, thoughts and prayers aren't enough, they need to take action unblock May 2024 #1
That's obstruction of justice all by itself bucolic_frolic May 2024 #2
Sure as hell IS obstruction of justice! elleng May 2024 #37
Okay he has gone too far. Let monkey MTG take Mikey down. Get rid of him Trueblue1968 May 2024 #46
Well, good luck with that, Mikey Wednesdays May 2024 #3
Jim Jordan found that out Mad_Machine76 May 2024 #22
I see this as distraction, inflammatory chatter...minions for tRumpers stuff. FarPoint May 2024 #4
Yes, most of what the republican congress does is PatSeg May 2024 #29
He's right. It's a threat to their entire system of malfeasance. live love laugh May 2024 #5
Maybe someone should send Saint Mike a transcript of Stormy's testimony. Vinca May 2024 #6
Are the dems still considering saving this guy from Marge? CrispyQ May 2024 #7
NEVER trust a Rethuglican. Never. Ever. OMGWTF May 2024 #51
"Oh, look! See! See Mike. See Mike try to tippy-toe around obstruction of justice! struggle4progress May 2024 #8
How does Mike Johnson know this ... that Chump has "done nothing wrong"? FakeNoose May 2024 #9
Johnson did say he speaks to Trump often!! riversedge May 2024 #13
Like he speaks to god often? LiberalFighter May 2024 #62
"We need accountability" here means "we must prevent Trump being held accountable for anything" muriel_volestrangler May 2024 #10
Yeah..I do not think "accountability" means what Mikey thinks it means... birdographer May 2024 #28
"You keep using that word..." Wednesdays May 2024 #45
God, they're really pushing the envelope toward an autocracy. Trump IS the threat. Fla Dem May 2024 #11
Of course not kacekwl May 2024 #60
C-Span clip: Speaker Johnson Slams Prosecution of Former President Trump riversedge May 2024 #12
House Speaker Mike Johnson (R-LA) told reporters he was not negotiating with GOP Reps. Marjorie Taylor Greene (GA) and T riversedge May 2024 #19
I might be nervous about this Bettie May 2024 #14
Didn't Johnson just have a deal making meeting with Traitor Greene? Hmmmm. nt AnotherMother4Peace May 2024 #15
Proving Republicans are Weak on Crime! Emile May 2024 #16
Yes, it's here LiberaBlueDem May 2024 #17
"...a threat to OUR system." Caliman73 May 2024 #18
It's a threat to MAGA. greatauntoftriplets May 2024 #41
MAGA is just a more extreme form of Conservatism. Caliman73 May 2024 #56
Mike Johnson says Republicans must take total control of government so they can enact their Project 2025 agenda,... riversedge May 2024 #20
Jojo is making himself Judge and Jury: "He's done nothing wrong." BoRaGard May 2024 #21
He's saying the quiet part out loud sakabatou May 2024 #23
He will try anything to save his sorry ass. twodogsbarking May 2024 #24
They have him by the short and curlies. ananda May 2024 #25
It will backfire................................. Lovie777 May 2024 #26
Hopefully it will backfire... on him! Just wait until the next time he wants to be bailed out by Dems to save his job PortTack May 2024 #32
Trump has done nothing wrong .... Diamond_Dog May 2024 #27
it is time to expand the investigation to include Republican Congressional members. Under The Radar May 2024 #30
Where do find these repulsive people. Butterflylady May 2024 #31
Congress has no influence over what happens in trials wryter2000 May 2024 #33
This message was self-deleted by its author Ponietz May 2024 #42
I thought I was beyond shockable... CBHagman May 2024 #34
Letting traitortrump get away with crimes is a threat to the entire system. Hermit-The-Prog May 2024 #35
Wait a minute. Isn't it up to local citizens serving on a Grand Jury to indict someone... surfered May 2024 #36
Ok peoples Snoopy 7 May 2024 #38
Time to vacate the chair. rustbeltvoice May 2024 #39
"When the president does it, moondust May 2024 #40
Well that explains why Trump is trying to get MTG to back down, he has made a deal Bev54 May 2024 #43
Wow! Martin68 May 2024 #44
So, the GOP is going to establish the precedent of the Legislature controlling the Judiciary sanatanadharma May 2024 #47
MTG demanded Johnson defund Jack Smith and abandon Ukraine in contentious meeting: report LetMyPeopleVote May 2024 #48
Get a deranged mob to storm the courthouse you imbecile Ponietz May 2024 #49
Meet Vice President Mike Johnson n/t aggiesal May 2024 #50
In other words C_U_L8R May 2024 #52
Mikey Da Turd can't do a fuck thing about the state trial. Piss on that fucking turd. SoFlaBro May 2024 #53
Too late Mike. The SS Trump is caught in Stormy weather and is leaking silk jammies. Ping Tung May 2024 #54
SEPARATE BUT EQUAL. spanone May 2024 #55
No sir. You are the threat to the entire system. appleannie1 May 2024 #57
No assbag. Republicans are a threat to our entire system. This quote of you saying that proves it. BComplex May 2024 #58
I'm all misty with how much they love the constitution mahina May 2024 #59
How does he/do they plan to do this LEGALLY? I'm intrigued. no_hypocrisy May 2024 #61
They are already guilty Old Crank May 2024 #63
If he's done nothing wrong then what is the harm of letting a jury find him not guilty? Takket May 2024 #64
Separation of Powers, Mikey???? ProudMNDemocrat May 2024 #65
Maybe the dems should rethink saving his ass from being knocked off by EmptyG. Liberal In Texas May 2024 #66

Trueblue1968

(19,140 posts)
46. Okay he has gone too far. Let monkey MTG take Mikey down. Get rid of him
Tue May 7, 2024, 02:36 PM
May 2024

Let the Repukes get rid of him !!!!!!

Mikey the ugly hearted speaker needs to go down !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!! !!!

Dump him.

Mad_Machine76

(24,939 posts)
22. Jim Jordan found that out
Tue May 7, 2024, 01:47 PM
May 2024

the hard way- with Fani Willis LOL

I guess this is what Johnson feels like he has to do to keep his job?

FarPoint

(14,647 posts)
4. I see this as distraction, inflammatory chatter...minions for tRumpers stuff.
Tue May 7, 2024, 12:08 PM
May 2024

So.... I will hold my beer until it comes out in Congress....then the DOJ can do it's job..

Back to the trials.

PatSeg

(52,545 posts)
29. Yes, most of what the republican congress does is
Tue May 7, 2024, 02:02 PM
May 2024

just "distraction and inflammatory chatter" for the media and of course, to appease Trump. It is a show - it's not like they actually do any governing.

Vinca

(53,546 posts)
6. Maybe someone should send Saint Mike a transcript of Stormy's testimony.
Tue May 7, 2024, 12:12 PM
May 2024

Hmmm . . . wonder if that counts with his father/son porn moderating.

CrispyQ

(40,804 posts)
7. Are the dems still considering saving this guy from Marge?
Tue May 7, 2024, 12:12 PM
May 2024

Hasn't he already stabbed us in the back a couple of times?

FakeNoose

(40,705 posts)
9. How does Mike Johnson know this ... that Chump has "done nothing wrong"?
Tue May 7, 2024, 12:16 PM
May 2024

Isn't that the point of this trial, to discover and judge the depth of Chump's wrong behavior? Most Americans believe Chump broke the law, somehow. Not everyone is convinced how serious it was and is, but that's the reason for the trial.

muriel_volestrangler

(105,821 posts)
10. "We need accountability" here means "we must prevent Trump being held accountable for anything"
Tue May 7, 2024, 12:28 PM
May 2024

This is Orwellian Newspeak, requiring Doublethink on the part of the Republican listener, and unthinking worship of Big Brother Trump. He hasn't quite nominated someone to be the Emmanuel Goldstein hate figure yet, but he's not far off.

birdographer

(2,937 posts)
28. Yeah..I do not think "accountability" means what Mikey thinks it means...
Tue May 7, 2024, 01:59 PM
May 2024

Making trump accountable for his crimes is a bit of the backbone of this whole thing. God apparently failed to explain that to Mikey.

Fla Dem

(27,480 posts)
11. God, they're really pushing the envelope toward an autocracy. Trump IS the threat.
Tue May 7, 2024, 12:31 PM
May 2024

Does Congress have any right to interfere with a judicial proceeding?

riversedge

(80,026 posts)
12. C-Span clip: Speaker Johnson Slams Prosecution of Former President Trump
Tue May 7, 2024, 12:32 PM
May 2024

I could not find any news articles at this time but did find this........




https://www.c-span.org/video/?c5116463/speaker-johnson-slams-prosecution-president-trump


May 7, 2024 | Clip Of House Republican Leadership News Conference
Speaker Johnson Slams Prosecution of Former President Trump

House Speaker Mike Johnson criticizes the various cases against former President Trump in New York, D.C., Florida and Georgia, calling them "sham trials." He accuses Democrats in New York of trying to make a name for themselves by bring the hush money case to trial and calls out Judge Juan Merchan for threatening to jail the former president over gag order violations. Speaker Johnson says the goal appears to be to keep Trump in the courtroom and off the campaign trail, suggesting it is "election interference" and a double standard. close

riversedge

(80,026 posts)
19. House Speaker Mike Johnson (R-LA) told reporters he was not negotiating with GOP Reps. Marjorie Taylor Greene (GA) and T
Tue May 7, 2024, 12:55 PM
May 2024





May 7, 2024
House Republican Leadership News Conference

House Speaker Mike Johnson (R-LA) told reporters he was not negotiating with GOP Reps. Marjorie Taylor Greene (GA) and Thomas Massie (KY) over their threat to trigger a motion to vacate the speakership. The speaker held meetings with the two Republican rank-and-file members in recent days. When asked if he would return as speaker in the next Congress, Mr. Johnson said, “I intend to lead this conference in the future.” The speaker, along with other GOP leaders, also spoke about criminal cases against former President Trump, pro-Palestinian protests on college campuses and support for Israel.
https://www.c-span.org/video/?535448-1/house-republican-leadership-news-conference

Caliman73

(11,767 posts)
18. "...a threat to OUR system."
Tue May 7, 2024, 12:44 PM
May 2024

What system is that? I mean, I know what system people like Johnson mean, though they would NEVER say it outright. Holding powerful people accountable within the same legal system that incarcerates average people is REPULSIVE to the powerful. While the Terror and Robespierre went off the rails, the initial outrage was that "ordinary citizens" were holding monarchs and nobles accountable in ANY way. That was the outrage. Ordinary people became concerned when the killing and repression did not abate and spilled over into everyday life.

People like Johnson and Conservatives see themselves as BETTER than everyone else and deserving of power and privilege. They see the world as fundamentally unequal and think that we should be bound by laws, while they are protected by laws. All of the Conservative talking heads have been saying that the trial is a "threat to democracy" and to our system of government, but they are LYING when they say that. They couldn't care less about democracy. They are concerned that the former president being held accountable would break the ceiling and that any one of them could face actual scrutiny and justice.

Conservatives coming out like this shows that they have no respect for the actual system of government that was put into place after the Revolution. While yes, it is not a direct democracy and yes, there were still elitist sentiments in factions of the Founders, the purpose of the systems set up was to make the government in many ways ACCOUNTABLE to the CONSENT OF THE GOVERNED. We are the governed. We are using DUE PROCESS and the RULE OF LAW to hold a person accountable for alleged crimes. It shouldn't matter who the defendant is or was. If the phrase, "Justice is Blind" is actually to be believed, then what should matter is the allegations and the evidence. If Trump is acquitted, it would suck, but if the government cannot bring sufficient evidence to convict beyond a reasonable doubt, then Trump deserves to be acquitted.

There absolutely is a two tiered justice system, but contrary to all the stupid squawking by Conservatives, Trump isn't receiving "special scrutiny" he is benefitting from the special treatment that is afforded to all wealthy and powerful people. Unfortunately, in our justice system, the divide is not political it is economic. Wealthy people can afford better attorneys, they can delay, they can use loopholes, and they get special consideration. The rest of us are much more likely to suffer adverse consequences from attention from the criminal justice system than any wealthy person. This "system" that I just described in my last sentences, is the "our system" that Johnson and other idiots are talking about.

These idiots need to be challenged, but our media is also very weak at holding people to account. They should be questioned as to why they think it is okay to lock Black, Brown, and poor people up for 20 years for minor possession of cannabis, but that it is a "threat to our system" to use that same justice system to try someone for business document fraud in connection with elections fraud. Some Black teenager getting caught with a few ounces of weed has zero effect on my daily life or the lives of anyone else, except maybe his family. A wealthy asshole lying about his affairs, committing document fraud after paying off a woman to hide an affair so that he could become president of the United States, and said asshole being so incompetent that he helped to cause the deaths of over 1 MILLION Americans in the span of 2 years, has much more effect on everyone's daily life. That Black teenager sits in a cell in Rikers for 3 to 5 years while the rich asshole gets to run for president ... again.

Caliman73

(11,767 posts)
56. MAGA is just a more extreme form of Conservatism.
Tue May 7, 2024, 03:15 PM
May 2024

It is a spectrum. While any political ideology is susceptible to authoritarianism, Conservatism is specifically susceptible to Fascism. Remember that Mussolini and Hitler were right wing reactionaries that mimicked left wing rhetoric, but fundamentally believed in hierarchy which is a right wing phenomena. Conservative adhere to the same ideas of hierarchy. The differences in application for the ideologies are "who" is in charge and some of the methods that are used to obtain and maintain power. Conservatives think that wealthy people of a certain hue are best suited for leadership, but color might be subservient to wealth. Conservatives (the leaders, not the followers) DO NOT believe in equality or equity. When equality and equity are not in your framework of understanding the world, it isn't too difficult to get to rigid class structure and using systems of power to freeze them into place.

What the MAGA followers fail to understand is that there is only so much room at the top of the pyramid and that their leaders will expect them to "know their place" along with the rest of us. They will get a rude awakening about their own power and privilege (or lack thereof) if Conservatives are allowed to fully realize their plans for society.

riversedge

(80,026 posts)
20. Mike Johnson says Republicans must take total control of government so they can enact their Project 2025 agenda,...
Tue May 7, 2024, 01:24 PM
May 2024


Mike Johnson says Republicans must take total control of government so they can enact their Project 2025 agenda, including a national abortion ban, or else America is “facing very serious threats”

BoRaGard

(7,591 posts)
21. Jojo is making himself Judge and Jury: "He's done nothing wrong."
Tue May 7, 2024, 01:44 PM
May 2024

Freaking Republicans think they are elite fugging royalty,
and piss on regular honest Americans.

PortTack

(35,816 posts)
32. Hopefully it will backfire... on him! Just wait until the next time he wants to be bailed out by Dems to save his job
Tue May 7, 2024, 02:03 PM
May 2024

What an idiot!

Diamond_Dog

(40,076 posts)
27. Trump has done nothing wrong ....
Tue May 7, 2024, 01:57 PM
May 2024

How can you say that … seriously … with a straight face?!?!

These right wing cult freaks are unbelievable.

Response to wryter2000 (Reply #33)

CBHagman

(17,453 posts)
34. I thought I was beyond shockable...
Tue May 7, 2024, 02:07 PM
May 2024

...but then I saw the speaker of the House of Representatives pulling this stunt.

There is no bottom with today's Republican Party, none at all.

surfered

(12,325 posts)
36. Wait a minute. Isn't it up to local citizens serving on a Grand Jury to indict someone...
Tue May 7, 2024, 02:08 PM
May 2024

…Then another jury of your peers listens to the evidence from both sides and must unanimously agree the defendant is guilty? Where does it say the Speaker of the House makes the decision as to whether or not someone has committed a crime?

Snoopy 7

(724 posts)
38. Ok peoples
Tue May 7, 2024, 02:12 PM
May 2024

let’s get back on the trail that’s behind his lawlessness. Mikey baby needs his fond leader to escape the law. After all if trump is found guilty then the congressional accomplices of Jan6 have to face justice. Guess who tried to help the orange, squirrel on his head, blob why no one else but Mikey baby. Mikey also knows if the orange blob can save himself from prison it will be by dropping a dime on his accomplices.

moondust

(21,257 posts)
40. "When the president does it,
Tue May 7, 2024, 02:12 PM
May 2024

that means it's not illegal."

Especially when he's selling Bibles and has God on his side.

Bev54

(13,320 posts)
43. Well that explains why Trump is trying to get MTG to back down, he has made a deal
Tue May 7, 2024, 02:23 PM
May 2024

with Johnson. Problem is they can make fools of themselves and say whatever Trump wants them to say but they have no power to stop anything and may end up in a court of law themselves if they don't watch it. The republicans know there is not much they can do but be annoying gnats buzzing around, but it it keeps their orange god off their back they are quite willing to totally humiliating themselves.

sanatanadharma

(4,082 posts)
47. So, the GOP is going to establish the precedent of the Legislature controlling the Judiciary
Tue May 7, 2024, 02:41 PM
May 2024

Establish that step one over the constitutional separation of powers line and we are only one step away from a Democratic Congress taking control of the Supreme Court.

Go for it Speaker!

LetMyPeopleVote

(176,683 posts)
48. MTG demanded Johnson defund Jack Smith and abandon Ukraine in contentious meeting: report
Tue May 7, 2024, 02:44 PM
May 2024

Maga Mike is caving to MTG



https://www.rawstory.com/marjorie-taylor-greene-2668185404/

Rebellious Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-GA) reportedly laid out her demands to House Speaker Mike Johnson (R-LA) during a contentious meeting about her efforts to get him ousted from his position.

Punchbowl News reports that Greene made a number of asks during a meeting with Johnson that included a guarantee that he would not pass more military aid for Ukraine, a pledge to defund special counsel Jack Smith's prosecutions of President Donald Trump, and that "Johnson only advance legislative priorities that have the support of the majority of the majority — an adherence to the so-called Hastert Rule."



C_U_L8R

(49,112 posts)
52. In other words
Tue May 7, 2024, 03:03 PM
May 2024

Trump is freaking the f* out that he's going to jail and he's commanding every lackey to gum up the wheels of Justice. It's so desperate, I get the giggles.

spanone

(141,211 posts)
55. SEPARATE BUT EQUAL.
Tue May 7, 2024, 03:12 PM
May 2024

MOTHERFUCKERS.

The U.S. Constitution establishes three separate but equal branches of government: the legislative branch (makes the law), the executive branch (enforces the law), and the judicial branch (interprets the law).

https://www.uscourts.gov/educational-resources/educational-activities/separation-powers-action-us-v-alvarez#:~:text=The%20U.S.%20Constitution%20establishes%20three,branch%20(interprets%20the%20law).

BComplex

(9,802 posts)
58. No assbag. Republicans are a threat to our entire system. This quote of you saying that proves it.
Tue May 7, 2024, 03:28 PM
May 2024

So you want a system where some people are above the law, and his lackeys in congress can interfere to make it happen?? THAT is a threat to our entire system.

no_hypocrisy

(54,559 posts)
61. How does he/do they plan to do this LEGALLY? I'm intrigued.
Tue May 7, 2024, 06:58 PM
May 2024

Or is Johnson just saying that to get MTG out of his office?

Takket

(23,550 posts)
64. If he's done nothing wrong then what is the harm of letting a jury find him not guilty?
Wed May 8, 2024, 06:36 AM
May 2024

Just like every other person that is wrongfully accused of a crime?

If I’m wrongfully accused the jury of my peers is my salvation. Congress does not come to my rescue by trying to overthrow the judicial branch to help me.

ProudMNDemocrat

(20,672 posts)
65. Separation of Powers, Mikey????
Wed May 8, 2024, 06:39 AM
May 2024

The role of Congress is NOT to interfere with the Judiciary! Or did you skip that part of Civics class?

Sounds like it.

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