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angrychair

(12,271 posts)
Wed May 8, 2024, 12:16 PM May 2024

RFK jr Brain Worm

So the most concerning part of this story is not the worm necessarily. The far more concerning piece of this story is "ate part of my brain". While it might not need saying, to be clear, every single inch of your brain has a function and if you lose that part, no matter how small, the implications could be significant. Everything from psychological stability to memory to motor function regulation to bodily functions that no one even thinks about on a daily basis.
Losing a part of your brain, no matter how small, always matters and is a very big deal.

Reference: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/article/2024/may/08/robert-f-kennedy-jr-worm-brain

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RFK jr Brain Worm (Original Post) angrychair May 2024 OP
Links are helpful to show us what you are poating about Attilatheblond May 2024 #1
Here's one from Reuters: Ilsa May 2024 #4
Thank you, Ilsa. Attilatheblond May 2024 #47
I added a link angrychair May 2024 #5
Thank you Attilatheblond May 2024 #41
From the "you can't make this shit up" file... Jesus Christ. RockRaven May 2024 #2
I agree, I don't know what to make of it. Irish_Dem May 2024 #6
Maybe that brain worm ate the part of the brain Jerry2144 May 2024 #11
I'm guessing that you are, as I am, a Philip K. Dick reader. n/t Harker May 2024 #25
A long time ago, in a galaxy far away Jerry2144 May 2024 #33
Ah. Thanks... just a hunch. n/t Harker May 2024 #35
Rudy Rucker seems more appropriate ... eppur_se_muova May 2024 #59
I'm up for that... Thanks for the lead! Harker May 2024 #60
Univ Virginia -"Your Brain Parasite Isn't Making You Sick. Here's Why. womanofthehills May 2024 #21
Yet another good reason for me to avoid cats. Hermit-The-Prog May 2024 #32
Well, before you get all excited there NanaCat May 2024 #63
Never said I hated cats, but you do you. Hermit-The-Prog May 2024 #64
Have seen articles on toxoplasmosis stating health exprerts suggest as much as 50% of the world's population Attilatheblond May 2024 #44
Do not disagree angrychair May 2024 #10
He said he was eating a lot of fish at the time womanofthehills May 2024 #22
He's a prime example Bayard May 2024 #3
The doctor botoxed his brain instead of his vocal chords. Ilsa May 2024 #7
Won't anyone think of the worms? BoRaGard May 2024 #8
Don't some worms eat sh it? Jerry2144 May 2024 #12
You'll need to check with the leader of the G.O.P. BoRaGard May 2024 #15
Not gonna claim to be an expert on campaign strategy but I'm guessing "I have brain damage" isn't a good one. unblock May 2024 #9
I am thinking one of the parties Tree Lady May 2024 #39
I did not have BRAIN WORMS dweller May 2024 #13
LOL You win the internet for the day! Attilatheblond May 2024 #46
The concerning issue for me is he literally says: Docreed2003 May 2024 #14
That right there angrychair May 2024 #16
Most likely the entire story is BS enki23 May 2024 #17
This genxlib May 2024 #18
"Brain worms are more common than you think. Here's what doctors who've treated them say womanofthehills May 2024 #27
Yes, remember the doctor Mr.Bill May 2024 #31
Of course! Mike Nelson May 2024 #19
Alternate headline: Brain Worm Dies After Finding No Sustenance LetMyPeopleVote May 2024 #20
"Alternate headline: Brain Worm Dies After Finding No Sustenance" Sogo May 2024 #23
Don't they have a vaccine for that? MiniMe May 2024 #24
"...and the worms ate into his brain." -- "Hey You" by Pink Floyd. Iggo May 2024 #26
That was good! surfered May 2024 #37
Ivermectin Traildogbob May 2024 #28
How about a little Traildogbob May 2024 #29
Don't forget neuroplasticity - it's why people can recover from strokes. TheRickles May 2024 #30
I was just about to mention that Silent3 May 2024 #43
Exactly angrychair May 2024 #45
How does he remember MorbidButterflyTat May 2024 #34
The worm is said to have died from starvation, surfered May 2024 #36
First a leopard ate my face. Sky Jewels May 2024 #38
How would you know?? Orange Julius has probably had a whole colony nibbling away for decades? Evolve Dammit May 2024 #40
syphilis happens Attilatheblond May 2024 #48
Coming Nat Enquirer headlines: WHO KILLED RFK's BRAIN WORM? jmbar2 May 2024 #42
Worm dies after ingesting RFK Jr's toxic anti-vax conspiracy riddled brain. LetMyPeopleVote May 2024 #49
Ok, thanks Froggy ... DoBW May 2024 #50
Greene's must still be alive & chowing down DoBW May 2024 #52
It might explain a few things. pandr32 May 2024 #51
People are actually voting for a guy who had part of brain eaten by a worm, has mercury doc03 May 2024 #53
Admits to short-term AND long-term MOMFUDSKI May 2024 #54
For magats, brain worms are probably an asset! lindysalsagal May 2024 #55
Message auto-removed Name removed May 2024 #56
Was that his "excuse" for why he cheated on his wives? blogslug May 2024 #57
Did not know that about his history angrychair May 2024 #58
NY Times said it came out of divorce deposition LeftInTX May 2024 #66
This should be the final disqualifier. I refuse to vote for candidates with brain worms, DemocraticPatriot May 2024 #61
MSNBC: Got 2 other neuroligical issues, been hospitalized a lot lindysalsagal May 2024 #62
BINGO!!! Drum May 2024 #65
I'm surprsied Bob admitted it. But I gues better than have Cha May 2024 #67
Leon Lush is gonna be pissed. Brain worms are his schtick. Jedi Guy May 2024 #68

RockRaven

(19,346 posts)
2. From the "you can't make this shit up" file... Jesus Christ.
Wed May 8, 2024, 12:24 PM
May 2024

There is, of course, another angle to this to consider. Absent publicizing his medical records, we are left relying upon a decidedly unreliable source for this information: RFK Jr himself. And I'm not even going so far as to say he is making anything up. I just don't trust him to accurately receive, synthesize, understand, express information that a medical professional has provided him. We've got evidence that he does that very badly indeed all over the damn place, and none that he does it well.

Irish_Dem

(81,211 posts)
6. I agree, I don't know what to make of it.
Wed May 8, 2024, 12:28 PM
May 2024

He is so damn crazy it is possible he is hallucinating the whole thing.

Jerry2144

(3,272 posts)
11. Maybe that brain worm ate the part of the brain
Wed May 8, 2024, 12:35 PM
May 2024

Causing him to hallucinate that a brain worm ate his brain. And he’s traveling down a rabbit hole of being mentally unsuited for any office

Jerry2144

(3,272 posts)
33. A long time ago, in a galaxy far away
Wed May 8, 2024, 02:19 PM
May 2024

I did read his works. But not in the last several decades

eppur_se_muova

(41,921 posts)
59. Rudy Rucker seems more appropriate ...
Wed May 8, 2024, 05:08 PM
May 2024
Chapter 4 - IN WHICH MANCHILE, THE FIRST ROBOT-BUILT HUMAN, IS PLANTED IN THE WOMB OF DELLA TAZE BY KEN DOLL, PART OF WHOSE RIGHT BRAIN IS A ROBOT RAT.


https://www.rudyrucker.com/wares/

Harker

(17,776 posts)
60. I'm up for that... Thanks for the lead!
Wed May 8, 2024, 05:17 PM
May 2024

I have a couple of Alfred Bester novels queued up first.

womanofthehills

(10,988 posts)
21. Univ Virginia -"Your Brain Parasite Isn't Making You Sick. Here's Why.
Wed May 8, 2024, 01:42 PM
May 2024

From Univ of Virginia School of Medicine “

“July 2020 – More than 30 million Americans are infected with a brain parasite spread by cats and contaminated meat, but most will never show symptoms. A new discovery from the University of Virginia School of Medicine explains why, and that finding could have important implications for brain infections, neurodegenerative diseases and autoimmune disorders.

The UVA researchers found that the parasite, Toxoplasma gondii, is kept in check by brain defenders called microglia. These microglia release a unique immune molecule, IL-1a, that recruits immune cells from the blood to control the parasite in the brain, the scientists discovered. This process works so well that very few people develop symptomatic toxoplasmosis, the disease the parasite causes.”

https://med.virginia.edu/big/2020/09/22/your-brain-parasite-isnt-making-you-sick-heres-why/


 

NanaCat

(2,332 posts)
63. Well, before you get all excited there
Wed May 8, 2024, 07:33 PM
May 2024

Dogs can spread the same disease to their owners.

Really.

Toxoplasmosis in Dogs
By J. P. Dubey, MVSc, PhD, Animal Parasitic Diseases Laboratory, Beltsville Agricultural Research Center, USDA
Reviewed/Revised Jun 2018

Toxoplasmosis is caused by Toxoplasma gondii, a protozoan parasite that infects humans and other warmblooded animals. It is found worldwide.

Felines (members of the cat family) are the only definitive hosts of the parasite. (A definitive host is an animal that a parasite requires in order to mature normally.) Both wild and domestic cats serve as the main reservoir of infection. In dogs, a generalized infection may occur as the parasites travel through the body and invade the tissues.

Adult animals with vigorous immune systems control the spread of the parasite efficiently; therefore, toxoplasmosis usually causes no signs in healthy dogs. However, in puppies, the parasites may spread throughout the body. Signs of infection include fever, diarrhea, cough, difficulty breathing, jaundice, seizures, and death. Adult animals with weakened immune systems are extremely susceptible to developing sudden, generalized toxoplasmosis.
https://www.merckvetmanual.com/dog-owners/disorders-affecting-multiple-body-systems-of-dogs/toxoplasmosis-in-dogs.


So much for hating on cats unnecessarily.

Attilatheblond

(8,869 posts)
44. Have seen articles on toxoplasmosis stating health exprerts suggest as much as 50% of the world's population
Wed May 8, 2024, 03:12 PM
May 2024

could be infected. (I really think this parasite is a huge problem in our nation/body politic) It would explain a LOT about our society and even the world. Do some reading on well sourced info on this topic and it will shiver yer timbers.

angrychair

(12,271 posts)
10. Do not disagree
Wed May 8, 2024, 12:35 PM
May 2024

"worms ate my brain" is an incredibly rare event, even in less developed countries.
I admit I have way more questions than answers.
1. What was the specific parasite?
2. Where was it found?
3. What specific parts of the brain were damaged?
4. Has there been a full battery of tests done to establish what was damaged and how much?
5. When will those findings be made public?

womanofthehills

(10,988 posts)
22. He said he was eating a lot of fish at the time
Wed May 8, 2024, 01:46 PM
May 2024

So it could have been Mercury poisoning- that happened to Stephanie Miller - she said from eating too much sushi.

Ilsa

(64,358 posts)
7. The doctor botoxed his brain instead of his vocal chords.
Wed May 8, 2024, 12:28 PM
May 2024

Isn't that a typical treatment for his spasmodic dysphonia?

BoRaGard

(7,591 posts)
8. Won't anyone think of the worms?
Wed May 8, 2024, 12:30 PM
May 2024

Worms have feelings, too, many people say.

How would you like to get stuffed into a Q-anon cranium?

unblock

(56,198 posts)
9. Not gonna claim to be an expert on campaign strategy but I'm guessing "I have brain damage" isn't a good one.
Wed May 8, 2024, 12:32 PM
May 2024

Tree Lady

(13,280 posts)
39. I am thinking one of the parties
Wed May 8, 2024, 03:04 PM
May 2024

Dems or republicans found out and were holding it for Oct surprise. Better to come out early for him and hope people forget.

dweller

(28,391 posts)
13. I did not have BRAIN WORMS
Wed May 8, 2024, 12:37 PM
May 2024

on my 2024 Bingo card and if I did I would have asked for another card
😟




✌🏻

Docreed2003

(18,714 posts)
14. The concerning issue for me is he literally says:
Wed May 8, 2024, 12:39 PM
May 2024

"I have cognitive issues and struggle with short term and long term memory loss"

Then maybe you shouldn't be running for President Robert

angrychair

(12,271 posts)
16. That right there
Wed May 8, 2024, 12:43 PM
May 2024

That is absolutely the point. Could not agree more and I don't care what letter you have at the end of your name, if you have had part of your brain eaten by worms you need to sit this one out.

enki23

(7,795 posts)
17. Most likely the entire story is BS
Wed May 8, 2024, 12:45 PM
May 2024

Who knows what the doctor actually said. Who knows if that doctor is a bit of a nut, or just throwing out ideas that Mr chock full o' nuts immediately took as gospel. If the mercury poisoning diagnosis was suggested by the very same doc who diagnosed him with a brain parasite, I'd be *incredibly* skeptical instead of just really, really skeptical. Because, honestly, here are a *lot* of variations of this story that don't involve this nut actually having both brain worms and mercury poisoning. Up to and including him just making it all up.

Both of those are real things. Both are very rare in the developed world. And both together in a nut who believes vaccines are a conspiracy? I'm going to need some very, very detailed receipts.

genxlib

(6,135 posts)
18. This
Wed May 8, 2024, 12:54 PM
May 2024

Are we to believe someone who gets vaccines so incorrect would be a reliable source?

Are we to believe that he sees credible Doctors or just the ones that agree with his crazy stuff?

Are we to believe that he is any better at interpreting this possibility than any other medical information that he routinely gets wrong?

There are a whole lot of questions about where and how he came to this conclusion.

womanofthehills

(10,988 posts)
27. "Brain worms are more common than you think. Here's what doctors who've treated them say
Wed May 8, 2024, 01:58 PM
May 2024

“ Yes, it’s possible to have a worm living in your brain — in fact, it’s far more common than you might think, said Dr. David Hamer, a professor of global health and medicine at the Boston University School of Public Health, who also directs a travel clinic at Boston Medical Center.

Brain worms became a topic of public fascination Wednesday after the The New York Times reported that presidential candidate Robert F. Kennedy Jr. was mistakenly diagnosed with a brain tumor after scans picked up abnormalities that turned out to be “caused by a worm that got into my brain and ate a portion of it and then died,” he reportedly said in a 2012 deposition reviewed by The New York Times.

RFK Jr. says doctors found a dead worm in his brain
Though the article did not name the parasite involved, two doctors told the Globe the most likely culprit is T. solium, a pork tapeworm that is by the far the most common brain worm.

Over the course of his 30 year career, Hamer said he has treated about 20 patients suffering from a condition called cysticercosis, a parasitic disease caused by T. solium, which accounts for the vast majority of brain worms requiring medical attention.”

https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/other/brain-worms-are-more-common-than-you-think-here-s-what-doctors-who-ve-treated-them-say/ar-BB1m2SNH

Mr.Bill

(24,906 posts)
31. Yes, remember the doctor
Wed May 8, 2024, 02:12 PM
May 2024

who told us if Trump had a healthier diet he could live to be 200 years old?

He's a congressman now.

Iggo

(49,924 posts)
26. "...and the worms ate into his brain." -- "Hey You" by Pink Floyd.
Wed May 8, 2024, 01:57 PM
May 2024

Kristi Noem: I shot a puppy in the face.
RFK Jr.: Worms ate my brain.

Hey, judges? I’m gonna need a ruling.

TheRickles

(3,379 posts)
30. Don't forget neuroplasticity - it's why people can recover from strokes.
Wed May 8, 2024, 02:03 PM
May 2024

Last edited Wed May 8, 2024, 02:50 PM - Edit history (1)

 

Silent3

(15,909 posts)
43. I was just about to mention that
Wed May 8, 2024, 03:09 PM
May 2024

On the other hand, the older you are when brain damage occurs the harder it is for your brain to compensate.

RFK Jr. doesn’t act well-compensated.

angrychair

(12,271 posts)
45. Exactly
Wed May 8, 2024, 03:13 PM
May 2024

I should have mentioned neuroplasticity but I did dismiss it for the reasons you mentioned.
People of his age range have a significantly difficult time recovering from traumatic brain injuries and illness.

DoBW

(3,221 posts)
50. Ok, thanks Froggy ...
Wed May 8, 2024, 04:05 PM
May 2024

Dead worm made me cray cray & run for president? Is that where we are now? Well, get another one! Keep going bro

doc03

(39,081 posts)
53. People are actually voting for a guy who had part of brain eaten by a worm, has mercury
Wed May 8, 2024, 04:20 PM
May 2024

poisoning and no doubt lead poisoning.

Response to angrychair (Original post)

blogslug

(39,161 posts)
57. Was that his "excuse" for why he cheated on his wives?
Wed May 8, 2024, 04:51 PM
May 2024

The brain worm thing was from a deposition in divorce/custody testimony involving his second wife. He cheated on the first wife and proposed to the second wife while he was still married. He cheated on the second wife a lot and proposed marriage to his third wife while still married to number two.

The second wife committed suicide before the divorce was finalized.

Fuck that guy.

angrychair

(12,271 posts)
58. Did not know that about his history
Wed May 8, 2024, 05:05 PM
May 2024

How can anyone trust someone so unethical? I mean relationships are tough. Don't like someone leave them but to go about it that way would be a serious red flag for me that you can trust someone so unethical and void of decency.

LeftInTX

(34,248 posts)
66. NY Times said it came out of divorce deposition
Thu May 9, 2024, 12:20 AM
May 2024

Sounds like he was malingering, but I'll take it..

"I have this...I have that..."

 

DemocraticPatriot

(5,410 posts)
61. This should be the final disqualifier. I refuse to vote for candidates with brain worms,
Wed May 8, 2024, 05:19 PM
May 2024

or candidates who think they have one or had one...

lindysalsagal

(22,903 posts)
62. MSNBC: Got 2 other neuroligical issues, been hospitalized a lot
Wed May 8, 2024, 05:49 PM
May 2024

Guy's got a bucket full of disqualifiers. Perfect for gqp fools.

Cha

(319,023 posts)
67. I'm surprsied Bob admitted it. But I gues better than have
Thu May 9, 2024, 12:34 AM
May 2024

it come out one way or another.

Jedi Guy

(3,476 posts)
68. Leon Lush is gonna be pissed. Brain worms are his schtick.
Thu May 9, 2024, 06:18 AM
May 2024

Like he sells merch and everything. Wonder if a cease and desist for copyright infringement is in the offing.

For those who don't know, Leon Lush is a YouTuber who watches videos of people behaving stupidly in public and attributes it to brain worms. He's pretty funny.

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