Texas finds new way to punish and humiliate anyone who tries to get an abortion

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

For anyone who might ever become pregnant in Texas, the consequences of Republican governance could soon hit home in an extremely unpleasant way.

A Texas court is poised to allow a man who impregnated his former girlfriend the right to compel her deposition to seek money damages from out-of-state abortion providers that helped terminate her pregnancy. If allowed to proceed, anyone who becomes pregnant in the state of Texas and takes steps to end that pregnancy—whether by using pills obtained through the mail, or by traveling out of state—could be effectively stalked and forced into court by their sexual partner to explain their actions.

Just let that sink in for a moment.

Practically speaking, it means that sexual encounters and sexual relationships in Texas are now fraught with the potential expense and embarrassment of being dragged into court, should someone become pregnant and later decide—for whatever reason—to end their pregnancy. And because the primary motivation for forcing a sexual partner to go to court is the promise of a large award of money, this practice, if approved by the court, is likely to become pervasive throughout Texas.

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2024/5/7/2239233/-Texas-finds-new-way-to-punish-and-humiliate-anyone-who-tries-to-get-an-abortion

[hlthe2b]

1. He's blocked in this case by the Colorado law that shields CO health providers from such suits and

others from out-of-state subpoenas. Several other states have these shield laws too.

So, go to hell, greedy, controlling Texas monster and stay there. No $10,000 for you. No harassment of Coloradoans for your nasty gains.

[LeftInTX]

4. Good. Don't have time to follow this case.

If he's requesting medical records, he has no right.

He may still win his stupid case even without records. I just assumed that he would not have a right to the records and was basing his case on text messages or something...

[Hekate]

5. California is supposed to be a sanctuary state, but there are rogue cops here who check license plates at clinics

…and send the info back to Texas and other red states.

No border checks or anything like that. Just drive by the clinics and take photos…

Source — Los Angeles Times a couple of weeks ago

[hlthe2b]

6. So, too is CO. But the shield law protect providers against these civil suits.

They will fight it. But even with a criminally corrupt SCOTUS, I feel confident CO's shield law will prevail.

There is not much that can protect the patient if she goes back to Texas--thus the rogue cops and their license plate reporting can impact her and those who drove her, but CO providers are shielded from providing medical info needed.

[Fla Dem]

2. Appalling, absolutely appalling.

Does he even have a say as to whether or not she should carry the child to term? If he does, why should his position carry more weight than the woman's?

[Irish_Dem]

3. Women are subjugated and allowed no autonomy whatsoever.

Their bodies belong to men.

[calimary]

27. And I'm tempted to think they won't stop there.

How ‘bout those voting rights that the “little woman” surely doesn’t need? Just something else to bother her “pretty little head” about (when she SHOULD be cleaning the house and fixing hubby’s dinner).

I am SOOOOOO hating this!!!

[Irish_Dem]

30. When you are pregnant all the time.

Can't get an education or hold a job when you are always pregnant and have a house
full of kids, you can't get out of the house any way.

Might as well just take away the vote and make it official.

[Lonestarblue]

7. Texas loves its vigilante abortion laws where men can harass women by suing anyone who helps them.

[MagickMuffin]

8. Sure fire solution Texas women stop fucking Texas men

I sure wouldn’t want to have sex with these cretins. Especially nowadays.

[lindysalsagal]

31. My thoughts every time it comes up. Gotta find a famous texan woman

Who will start the "boycott."

[MuseRider]

37. They will take what they want

and at this point I doubt that would be considered against the law.

[Demobrat]

38. Yes. Every time someone says

Texas women should cut off the men I cringe. Because I’m not sure it’s a matter of choice.

[TheBlackAdder]

9. Texans will be humiliated in a few years when they are on the hook for billions in education costs.

Every kids adds over $150K to local taxes spread over an 18-year period. Tens of thousands of extra births every year, above current stasis will bankrupt Texas in a decade.

Since this targets poor people more than wealthy ones, that means other supplemental services are needed that will boost those state & local taxes even more.

[NanaCat]

33. Just wait until they start getting the bills

To build and maintain orphanages.

[TheBlackAdder]

35. Who knows, they might wait until they turn seven and put them to work in the copper and uranium mines.

[intheflow]

10. Who is supposed to pay up these supposed big payouts?

Unless the pregnant person is wealthy to begin with, they can't get bupkis.

[Ping Tung]

11. This sounds an awful lot like the 1850 Fugitive Slave Act which required Free States

to capture and return the runaways to their owners in slave states.

And "...seek money damages from other states.." sounds an awful lot like bounties placed on women who dared to cross the border from Texas which looks at anyone who aids the runaways as rustlers.

[kingvitamin]

12. The more the GOP pulls stunts like this the more unpopular they become.

We just need to get the message out to sane people.

[orwell]

13. I think the...

...Lysistrata solution is called for in TexAss.

[mtngirl47]

14. That was the solution that I was going to suggest.

(I just didn't know that word!)

[Warpy]

15. Explain her actions?

"He pissed and moaned about wearing a condom, then took it off halfway through. Then he said he didn't want to be trapped by a kid and ran out on me completely. I"m not paid enough to afford a baby and I'm not giving my baby up to strangers. That's the explanation."

Sounds about right, doesn't it?

Or, alternatively, "I'm twenty two. My parents were (religion) and married me off at fifteen. I have six kids now I can barely keep track of, three of them in diapers. I am completely exhausted. Another baby will drive me to suicide. That's the explanation."

Or haw about "I made straight As in high school, got scholarships to college. I"m the first one of my family to go to college, and I've got a 4.0 average. I got raped in a stairwell of the student union, and I'm faced with losing everything I worked so hard for. That's the explanation."

I hope women DO explain, not that stupid men blinded by man's religions will ever listen. Everybody else will, and that's who will change things, even in Texas.

[Hermit-The-Prog]

16. The Subversive Court discarded the Constitution to enable this subjugation.

[Crunchy Frog]

17. Texas will soon be the Incel State.

Who'd want to take the risk with those sorts of potential consequences?

[catbyte]

18. How would he prove that he was the father?

There's no DNA to test. Sounds like a bullshit intimidation move to me and almost impossible to prove in court unless there had been a prenatal DNA test. What am I missing?

[AZ8theist]

23. That was my first thought....

At the first prelim, she should say "You're not the father. I hooked up with some other guy after we broke up".
Or, "I was cheating on you for months before we broke up".....

Burn his stupid little incel ass...........

[Demobrat]

24. Yep. The good old days of

“How do I know it’s mine?” are over. Now we’ve moved on to “Prove it was yours”.

[lastlib]

19. It's no wonder the birth rate in this country is falling.

With all this crap going on, what woman in these red states would want to risk pregnancy? You can't fault them, but it's high time to put a stop to this kind of crap.

[bucolic_frolic]

20. Giving birth ends pregnancy. Are they excluded? /nt

[SARose]

21. Jonathan Mitchell

The Conservative Who Wants to Bring Down the Supreme Court

The lawyer who wrote Texas’s abortion ban has a bigger project—disempowering the judiciary—that may appeal to liberals, too.
By Jeannie Suk Gersen
January 5, 2023

On the day that the Supreme Court overruled Roe v. Wade, the lawyer Jonathan Mitchell was at the National Association of Christian Lawmakers conference, where he was to receive an award for having enabled “the most successful pro-life legislation to date.” Mitchell was the author of the legislation that had effectively ended abortion access—first in Texas and then in Oklahoma—while Roe was still good law. As news broke at the conference that Dobbs v. Jackson Women’s Health Organization had come down, “people were crying, men and women both,” Mitchell said. “I think they really thought there was divine intervention.” But Mitchell felt something different from the joy all around him about saving unborn babies. He was awash in relief that the Court as an institution might be able to redeem itself in a legal sense. He kept his feelings to himself. “I didn’t want to put a damper on things, because everybody else was just, ‘Praise Jesus.’ ”

Unlike most lawyers and legal scholars who profess to be committed to the rule of law, Mitchell does not find it disturbing that several states, following his advice, managed to nullify a constitutional right long before the Supreme Court did. That is because his mission is to undermine the Court itself as the final authority on the meaning of the Constitution. He first laid out his arguments in several law-review articles, one of which proposed that legislatures could “overcome federal-court rulings” they oppose by drafting statutes that insulate them from judicial review. He then put his arguments into practice, using abortion as the perfect test case.

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Long article but worth the read. My spidey sense is tingling. I won’t be surprised if/when someone digs up dirt on him. Jest my 2 cents..

[ZonkerHarris]

22. Don't fuck in Texas.

[JoseBalow]

25. A compelling argument for sodomy!

[flashman13]

26. tRump says it's OK for states to monitor pregnant women. Texas is way ahead of him.

I think (and hope) the women of Texas give the Rs a serious kick in the ass. Ridding the senate of Cruz would be a good start.

[Upthevibe]

28. Kick. N/T

[Lovie777]

29. These states will find themselves barren of young "ripped" women............

mail order, throwing tons of money to foreign countries still won't help them.

[NickB79]

32. Humiliate him if called to testify

Tell the court, and the world, how his tiny penis couldn't satisfy any woman, and she had an affair with another man, which you believe was the real source of the pregnancy. No DNA to prove her wrong. Absolutely emasculate him in front of his peers.

[Initech]

34. The GOP has been taken over by sadistic, bloodthirsty psychopaths.

But please, keep calling yourselves "pro life", assholes.

[Xolodno]

36. Going to be a lot of blue balls in Texas.

And an increase of sales of vibrators, dongs, etc.

Maybe Texas should have another moniker, "the whack off state".