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OMG LAWRENCE! HIS AND MERCHAN'S BRILLIANCE! (Original Post) ancianita May 2024 OP
He knocked it out of the park. GoodRaisin May 2024 #1
Right out of New York! ancianita May 2024 #2
Epic and riveting DaBronx May 2024 #3
I think this is the video SouthBayDem May 2024 #4
Thank you. ancianita May 2024 #13
I missed this episode, Thanks for posting it. riversedge May 2024 #15
Wow. That was quite a watch. underpants May 2024 #18
Thank you! jrthin May 2024 #29
Recommended. H2O Man May 2024 #5
Catching this on the re-broadcast. 3catwoman3 May 2024 #6
So true. ShazzieB May 2024 #22
The judge was great Pompoy May 2024 #7
Sounds like the IQs of the attorneys are not any higher than the Orange Turd's. wnylib May 2024 #8
Yes Trump is forcing his attorneys to do stupid things. Irish_Dem May 2024 #9
Yet, in claudette May 2024 #11
Unless it is a deliberate strategy to win on appeal. Irish_Dem May 2024 #16
I've read the lawyers would have to be drunk or asleep for that to work Kaleva May 2024 #30
These attorneys are so bad I would not rule out drugs or booze. Irish_Dem May 2024 #32
One other major consideration is that it's not because they're so bad, but that the prosecution is so excellent ancianita May 2024 #34
I think it's both. TSExile May 2024 #37
In tandem, yes. ancianita May 2024 #38
No, that is not the reason. Irish_Dem May 2024 #39
Agree that they're bad in THIS case, against THIS judge and prosecution, but they've got good reps for a reason. ancianita May 2024 #40
Their excellent reputations are now shattered. Irish_Dem May 2024 #41
So true. By the time Smith enters a courtroom, he'll mop whoever's left in America who'd ancianita May 2024 #42
TSF has the reverse Midas touch. TSExile May 2024 #43
Yes he does. Irish_Dem May 2024 #44
I'm not a lawyer, but ariadne0614 May 2024 #12
Signing a document stating you are going to be a bad lawyer? Irish_Dem May 2024 #17
Oh. ariadne0614 May 2024 #21
Trump would not sign such a waiver, ever. Irish_Dem May 2024 #25
Yes, but the good news is he'd be just as stupid during his appeal ecstatic May 2024 #19
But he will have a different judge. Irish_Dem May 2024 #31
Totally agree. ancianita May 2024 #14
And Trump uses the same style of learning about the law wnylib May 2024 #20
"Trump Revealed" teach1st May 2024 #24
Yes, that's the book. Thanks for the memory jog. wnylib May 2024 #26
Yep.A kid like that is definitely one to have a Roy Cohn later as his chosen father who taught him that approach to law. ancianita May 2024 #35
He's always telling us that he knows more than anybody about everything. ShazzieB May 2024 #23
Brilliant. Perfect. PCIntern May 2024 #10
How about Stormy's brilliance? BeyondGeography May 2024 #27
Indeed. She was also part of the masterful prosecution team that's winning. ancianita May 2024 #36
He was in court and observed it. LiberalFighter May 2024 #28
Orange Turd is in the trial transcript LetMyPeopleVote May 2024 #33

3catwoman3

(28,879 posts)
6. Catching this on the re-broadcast.
Fri May 10, 2024, 12:11 AM
May 2024

Lawrence is having entirely too much fun with this. I love his deadly, devastating but restrained and dignified contempt.

wnylib

(25,355 posts)
8. Sounds like the IQs of the attorneys are not any higher than the Orange Turd's.
Fri May 10, 2024, 12:34 AM
May 2024

Count on Trump to use attorney incompetence in his appeal. He will say that, since the judge had to object on occasions when his own attorneys did not, that he did not have competent representation.

I am 100% sure that the Orange Turd insisted that his attorney open with a complete denial of ever having sex with Daniels. Trump's reasoning would be, "No sex, therefore no hush money payment and no juggling of the books." He thought that the denial of sex would nullify the charges completely.

His lawyers would probably have known that the denial would mean testimony from Daniels to refute it. He expected that his attorney would be able to embarrass and denigrate her like his attorneys who went after Fani. But it backfired and made the Orange Turd look bad, not Stormy.

But, as with everyone else in every other field, the OT knows more about legal strategy and the law than lawyers do, right?





Irish_Dem

(80,402 posts)
9. Yes Trump is forcing his attorneys to do stupid things.
Fri May 10, 2024, 03:59 AM
May 2024

And then will use their incompetence as a reason to appeal.

Trump's lying, harassment and threatening behavior has been a successful strategy in the past.
But not working so well this time.

 

claudette

(5,455 posts)
11. Yet, in
Fri May 10, 2024, 05:23 AM
May 2024

my opinion, the lawyers are the stupid ones for following his advice and lead. Dump is an orange turd with NO legal training. Any lawyer who does what the Turd tells them is worthless. in my view.

Irish_Dem

(80,402 posts)
32. These attorneys are so bad I would not rule out drugs or booze.
Fri May 10, 2024, 08:59 AM
May 2024

They are supposed to be seasoned and excellent attorneys.
We could do the job better than they could.
At the very least we wouldn't piss off the judge every hour of every day.

ancianita

(43,162 posts)
34. One other major consideration is that it's not because they're so bad, but that the prosecution is so excellent
Fri May 10, 2024, 11:29 AM
May 2024

in its handling of the argument/witness sequencing, that the defense has been easily outmatched.

TSExile

(3,363 posts)
37. I think it's both.
Fri May 10, 2024, 11:38 AM
May 2024

You're both right!! I admit that I cracked up every time Lawrence uttered "orange turd" when he read the court transcript. We're all still in the third grade, I guess.

ancianita

(43,162 posts)
38. In tandem, yes.
Fri May 10, 2024, 11:48 AM
May 2024

We only laugh at and with Lawrence because we know we're winning the national case against the turd and his turd rate base.

Irish_Dem

(80,402 posts)
39. No, that is not the reason.
Fri May 10, 2024, 11:53 AM
May 2024

Yes the prosecution is excellent.

But the judge in this case has to keep admonishing the Trump attorneys.
In some cases he even has to step in and do their jobs for them.

And a witness with a high school education and no legal training can make mincemeat
out of Trump's attorneys.

The Trump attorneys are bad, very bad.

ancianita

(43,162 posts)
40. Agree that they're bad in THIS case, against THIS judge and prosecution, but they've got good reps for a reason.
Fri May 10, 2024, 12:36 PM
May 2024

More past practice -- which has not helped them with THIS client in THIS case.

Which makes THIS trial all the more a joy to behold, because Blanche will lead tsf's next case as a beaten lawyer before the Smith team.

ancianita

(43,162 posts)
42. So true. By the time Smith enters a courtroom, he'll mop whoever's left in America who'd
Fri May 10, 2024, 01:19 PM
May 2024

defend the devil.

Looking forward to the many movies and books about the Biden/Harris era.

ariadne0614

(2,153 posts)
12. I'm not a lawyer, but
Fri May 10, 2024, 05:29 AM
May 2024

. . .it crossed my mind that the OT’s attorneys only agreed to do it his way if he signed a waiver going in.

Irish_Dem

(80,402 posts)
17. Signing a document stating you are going to be a bad lawyer?
Fri May 10, 2024, 05:51 AM
May 2024

And not mount an adequate defense.

They put themselves in a no win situation, I would not put that in writing.

ariadne0614

(2,153 posts)
21. Oh.
Fri May 10, 2024, 07:53 AM
May 2024

I guess it occurred to me because way back in the late 80s, my divorce lawyer required that I sign some sort of waiver, promising not to ever sue him for not making the maximum demands he thought I was entitled to.

ecstatic

(35,032 posts)
19. Yes, but the good news is he'd be just as stupid during his appeal
Fri May 10, 2024, 06:34 AM
May 2024

His behavior and crazy demands won't magically improve during an appeal.

wnylib

(25,355 posts)
20. And Trump uses the same style of learning about the law
Fri May 10, 2024, 06:56 AM
May 2024

as he did when sent to a military a academy by his parents when they could no longer handle him. Two Washington Post reporters wrote a book on Trump's background during the 2016 campaign. I don't remember the book's title now or the names of the authors. But I do remember that their research included interviews with people who had known him at various stages in his life, including former classmates and former neighbors of his family in Queens.

Trump's parents sent him to a military academy after he had been picked up by police more than once as a teen while hanging out with a group of thugs in Manhattan. People who knew him at the school said that he learned the discipline rules very well in order to present an image of compliance while using his knowledge of the rules to circumvent them as often as possible .

That's his approach to law.


teach1st

(6,010 posts)
24. "Trump Revealed"
Fri May 10, 2024, 08:06 AM
May 2024

I believe the book is "Trump Revealed" by Michael Kranish and Marc Fisher. The Washington Post has made public the documents driving the reporting, including interviews.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/politics/trump-revealed-book-reporting-archive/
No paywall: https://archive.is/1cszO

ancianita

(43,162 posts)
35. Yep.A kid like that is definitely one to have a Roy Cohn later as his chosen father who taught him that approach to law.
Fri May 10, 2024, 11:33 AM
May 2024

ShazzieB

(22,333 posts)
23. He's always telling us that he knows more than anybody about everything.
Fri May 10, 2024, 08:02 AM
May 2024

So of course he knows all about legal strategy!

See for yourself:



LiberalFighter

(53,544 posts)
28. He was in court and observed it.
Fri May 10, 2024, 08:44 AM
May 2024

Big difference with just having only a transcript.

But a transcript is much better than the synopsis MSNBC provides in the side panel.

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