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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsHere we go again: When will Democrats get their act together and win this election?
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https://signalpress.blogspot.com/2024/05/here-we-go-again-when-will-democrats.htmlPresident Biden could not have picked a better candidate for the opposition if he'd been told he could choose the most beatable, unelectable, despicable Republican in the party. The man is under more than 80 federal and state indictments for multiple felonies of which a plethora of evidence proving his guilt has already been exposed and publicized. He's served one term in office that was, from every political, economic and social perspective, an unmitigated disaster. His inept handling of everything that came his way, and his bungling of a national crisis that had the potential to be the one thing that actually saved him, was the worst demonstration of political incompetence we've seen in the White House, including the Presidencies of John Tyler and James Buchanan.
Not only that, but the presumptive Republican nominee is a moral degenerate who cheered on an insurrection against the United States Constitution and government that he himself instigated and launched with a speech in front of the White House. He has denied and turned his back on the religious beliefs of his most loyal supporters and insulted their leaders by refusing to acknowledge any kind of Christian conversion experience. He's twice divorced, re-marrying the women with whom he had affairs leading to the breakup of his marriages, has openly degraded women by identifying them as nothing more than sex objects and on top of all of it, bribed his staff to pay off a porn star he bedded in order to keep that information from the voters.
So this should be a shoo-in, right? So why isn't it? Or, why is it not appearing that way?
mucifer
(23,658 posts)the unemployment numbers are great, people still think the economy was better under trump. Lots of people don't care that he's a traitor a spy, a revolutionary and a rapist. They don't care that inflation in the USA is MUCH better than in other countries .
They just want to be able to afford better housing food and insurance.
I REALLLLLY hope President Biden and his team can figure out the messaging.
jimfields33
(16,334 posts)Seriously when people go to the store and their favorite mayonnaise is 9 dollars. They dont like it. Example after example could be made.
mucifer
(23,658 posts)jimfields33
(16,334 posts)President Carter was blamed for every single thing known to man. He wears a sweater and is criticized. He actually had it worse than every president since.
DemocraticPatriot
(4,568 posts)people are smart enough to realize that the President doesn't set prices--- mostly corporate Republicans do!---
and polling on the issue showed that his response had some resonance. He should keep hammering it now until the election...
Perhaps even call out specific companies with examples of their greed, as a continuous series of statements against "greedflation"...
I doubt it would be too hard to research such a list and use it!
Sympthsical
(9,217 posts)I typically make homemade for recipes, so we only very rarely buy it from the store. Maybe once a year.
We were at Safeway on Tuesday, and I thought about buying a jar of Miracle Whip for deviled eggs for a bbq this weekend. It was $8.49. I turned to my partner and said, "That can't be correct, can it?" It wasn't the big family-size giganto jar. It was just the regular sized jar.
It blew my mind. The last time I bought Miracle Whip, it was like $5.49.
jimfields33
(16,334 posts)Its definitely greed but unfortunately not everyone will blame corporations.
FelineOverlord
(3,617 posts)I live in one of the wealthiest congressional districts in the country and I dont see any $9 mayonnaise.
jimfields33
(16,334 posts)Believe me. Its very true that this is the price.
Sympthsical
(9,217 posts)I saw it on Tuesday at Safeway in NorCal. I just opened my Safeway app to double check, and they have it listed as $10.49 retail, but there's a coupon/club savings this week.
We were going to get a thing of ice cream for the weekend. $8. We passed.
It used to be $5, with sales sometimes hitting $3.49.
$8. These people are smoking something.
Alliepoo
(2,247 posts)Biden and the Dems are getting all of the blame. He got to do something fast and something big to address this.
Aepps22
(169 posts)I agree but the reality is that prices arent coming down. If not for COVID prices would probably be higher than they are right now. It will take action by Congress to fix those problems but even then as long as we embrace supply and demand side economics corporations can and will continue to drive up prices and wages wont keep up
DemocraticPatriot
(4,568 posts)so NO, I don't believe prices would be higher now if not for Covid...
oldsoftie
(12,716 posts)Biden & his team need to hammer home the fact that trump constantly LIES about the state of the economy. But also not ignore what people are seeing & feeling.
brooklynite
(95,211 posts)Demsrule86
(68,970 posts)Biden is a great president...when will our side stop spouting propaganda they invented? Not you of course...
elocs
(22,688 posts)Anyone who honestly believes that America would be better under Trump is a moron anyways.
What are our party leaders doing to make this happen, along with getting the independent vote we need and squashing Jill Stein's attempt to get Trump elected again?
And why does it appear we continue to stumble and fall and lose step and can't grasp the narrative and take control of the time we get on the air?
NanaCat
(1,784 posts)Then it's because you've been had by a media that goes out of its way to downplay what Democrats are doing to win them. It's tough to get your message out there when the media (including social media) expends so much effort silencing one side and giving the other free reign.
Like showing TSF's empty podium the entire time Hillary was giving a speech at that very moment.
So maybe consider that it's not the Democrats who are the problem. It's the problem of a traitorous media, and the people gullible enough to think they're providing what news we need to know.
onenote
(42,934 posts)If you dont support Biden youre a moron.
NoRethugFriends
(2,379 posts)Many of whom are racist, homophobic, xenophobic, or just pain lazy and/or dumb
FalloutShelter
(11,947 posts)NanaCat
(1,784 posts)How can any of this be surprising in the least to anyone at all aware of reality? Do you think these bigots somehow poofed into existence from an alternate universe in 2016?
The stupid and hateful people of today are the same people who were calling Obama a monkey and Michelle a man in drag.
They're the direct descendants of the people who refused to serve my Mum and her co-workers at a restaurant in 1961 Michigan because their party was interracial.
They're the direct descendants of the people who were screaming at that lovely young woman daring to get a decent education in Little Rock, 1957.
They're the direct descendants of people who arrested Rosa Parks and Claudette Colvin before her, and Irene Morgan even before them, for refusing to yield a bus seat to a white person.
They're the direct descendants of people who marched wearing KKK robes in states North and South during the 1920s.
They're the people who enslaved people in the South, and profited from slavery in the North in millions of ways.
How can anyone think this is, or even could be, something new or different, when it's what America has been about for all of its history? Good grief, it's almost criminal to be so very blind to how commonplace bigots and bigotry have always been in the US.
Oopsie Daisy
(2,969 posts)Those who do such things are no friends of Democrats or Biden's agenda. Kneecapping and punishing Democrats only benefits the GOP.
lees1975
(3,980 posts)Do they not realize that the orange turd is their worst enemy? That they get less than nothing if he is elected?
Oopsie Daisy
(2,969 posts)* and that my friend is the TRUE indicator of their character.
lees1975
(3,980 posts)Public education, take a bow.
onenote
(42,934 posts)Winning over hearts and minds and votes through name-calling
doc03
(35,512 posts)may be true.
Iwasthere
(3,188 posts)The media is complicit, Period. THEY are saying it's a horse race. Their polls are BS. There's no way that it's close in a normal world. I refuse to believe their numbers. Have you ever seen the crowd size when the complicit media have his rally on the tube. They only show those bored idiots behind him, and they're paid! Look at his cult gathering at his hearing, there is only one or two people there. THERE NUMBERS ARE BULLSHIT.
Think. Again.
(9,181 posts)...the for-profit media shows up for work each day for one reason; shareholder profit.
Whatever it takes to get viewers to look at advertisements is what they will do, and only what they will do.
lees1975
(3,980 posts)Prior to the 2020 election, there were lots of trump banners and signs along the route in the rural areas, not so many for Biden. I made that same trip 2 weeks ago and either Trump's campaign can't afford signs and banners, or a lot of people aren't enthusiastic enough to put them out. There were very few compared to last time, as was the case when I was over in Western Michigan last week. Enthusiasm for the orange turd is definitely down.
The Biden campaign is using media advertising in both places, no Trump ads at all. So that's a good sign as far as I am concerned.
Dulcinea
(6,722 posts)I drive from my home in metro Atlanta to Huntsville, AL, where my daughter goes to college. I pass through MTG's district, GA-14. I saw the same thing--a lot fewer Trump signs & banners in a ruby red district. Less Trump propaganda in northern Alabama, too.
oldsoftie
(12,716 posts)Show me ONE battleground state that you think Biden is far ahead of trump. NATIONAL polls are meaningless since the national vote wont win the election.
Its frustrating to see people constantly dismiss the ability of trump to win this election & the REASONS why thats possible.
onecaliberal
(33,073 posts)The last one had the dem winning by 30+ percentage points. It was predicted they would win by 9.
The propaganda is outrageous. It is everywhere.
Traildogbob
(8,958 posts)For stuffing your pockets with Food, Insurance and Housing profits. And which of these two are a scamming life long real estate crook? Which one is getting tons of cash from ALL insurance billionaires?
Who just said they would eliminate ALL restrictions on Fossil fuel for a Billion dollar donation at Mardi Lardo billionaires party this week. Watch gas be $6:00 and up August September and November. Which will quickly refund that billion to the off shores of the Gas Heads that give Trump the Donation.
These rising costs are all because of billionaires stuffing pockets because the President is not allowed to set prices for private corporations.
And who will benefit with these price scams getting their chosen candidate elected?
And I am getting sick of the stupid. I am about to say fuck it all, I can survive on bugs. And sit and take pleasure of these idiots suffering under Trump, like a Bass laying on a Walmart Parking lot in July.
Fucking stupid sucking on the bull shit Faucet.
Watched Daily Show last night, and the Fox clips of the Nazi Party leaders raging at Biden for holding back bombs to BiBi, as they rant about their love of Jews. Lead by Lindsay, I love war, sending OTHER kids.
Bet every one of them had on Khakis.
And Hannity with rage face screaming about not giving BiBi every bomb he can drop, while proudly wearing our, (or what use to be our) flag on his lapel.
Until we can either match or totally hammer Fox News about shoveling 24/7 bullshit, our messaging will never compete.
Sorry to rant but I am close to saying fuck it all. The brain worms are as packed in MAGA Skulls as Tent
Catapillers. Tear into a web on a tree limb, you will see what I mean.
And we all watch the red states being decimated with raging storms. As Trump says this week at his Fossil party, he will end everything Climate help related.
One of the first interviews after a couple lost everything to a tornado last week, was a MAGA wearing a trump hat.
Paper towels would be coming soon, except they can thank God they will get help from this Administration.
Messaging. 🤬🤬🤬 Its handed to us on a silver platter. But the messaging Gods own all the media.
brooklynite
(95,211 posts)The Biden campaign has said it's not a shoo in.
oldsoftie
(12,716 posts)People keep looking at national polls instead of battleground state polls.
republianmushroom
(14,071 posts)oldsoftie
(12,716 posts)Other than that, for reasons that we have some chance to turn around. Right now, IMO, abortion, gas prices & the border mess are the 3 biggest issues. Just what can Biden do about gas prices when we're already producing record oil? I dont know. He certainly needs to TRY to use EOs on the border & let the COURT tell him no.
Can the abortion rights voters, who are PISSED OFF, override the others? I hope so.
betsuni
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Doodley
(9,206 posts)will get the message that if Trump wins, it is the end of America as we know it. Use Trump's own words about being a dictator, about building concentration camps, about persecuting opponents with images of Nazi Germany.
doc03
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even consider voting for Trump. Everyone thought AG Garland was our savior, he has totally failed.
Then we heard the 14th Amendment would stop him, that failed. Now everyone is hoping Trump will be
found guilty in NY. There is a chance of about 1 in 12 that will happen. Another great hope was the SOTU
speech, Biden got a bump out of that but is still tied or behind in the battleground states. Just yesterday
I read an editorial that said Biden is the most unpopular president in the last 70 years, how can that be?
Every month we hear, "It is early these polls don't matter". Well, those months keep passing by and eventually
they will matter. I don't know what will work but something in the campaign strategy needs to change.
lees1975
(3,980 posts)We're less than six months out. Campaign strategy appears to be lost somewhere between "the polls weren't right about Obama at this same time" and
what's the problem?"
Too much of the same old same old. Yes, Democrats have won a long streak of elections, and continue to do so, and most of those defy the polling data. But somewhere along the line, every American who knows another Trump term would be a disaster has to get out and make things move. And somehow, the Biden campaign and the DNC have to break into the news cycle that is nothing more than 24 hours of what Trump just did. What he said on the way into and out of the courtroom, when he got a hangnail, when he fell asleep, its ridiculous. And if Democrats aren't deliberately trying to make sensational news, then we're going to lose this.
doc03
(35,512 posts)he is on the ballot himself doesn't he consistently outperform the polls? It seems like they don't stick with one message
long enough to even see if it works before going off in another direction.
Tribetime
(4,766 posts)You cannot deny that Biden does not look like he did 4 years ago.His voice is weaker and independence look at that
redqueen
(115,112 posts)They blame Biden for everything - and many people really are just lost to extremism and conspiracy theories.
Some blame it on messaging. I can't help but wonder if cognitive sequelae from covid may play a part as well.
https://www.vox.com/policy/23710432/independents-abortion-democrats-midterms-2024-election-voters
Kaleva
(36,469 posts)They think half the country is stupid as fuck and they ain't talking about themselves
Elitists have deluded themselves into thinking that if only everyone else was as smart as they were, their preferred candidate would win in a landslide .
JCMach1
(27,595 posts)In 1988.
He was crushing it, but the campaign couldn't follow through and win.
Greybnk48
(10,187 posts)and overturned Roe with his hand-picked crooked kangaroo Supreme Court that has ZERO cred now, and we STILL have to hear the "Dems are blowing it" bullshit?
If that's really true, there's no hope for this country.
elocs
(22,688 posts)Too many consider themselves too righteous and noble to lower themselves to vote for the perceived lesser of 2 evils, hence the votes for 3rd party candidates. But our presidential elections are binary and the next president will either be Biden or Trump. That's it, and if you're on the Left and don't vote for Biden you only help Trump and there's no point in pretending otherwise.
lapucelle
(18,423 posts)elocs
(22,688 posts)How do you compare? Yet you want to quibble over a "we" or a "they". How clever.
Freethinker65
(10,134 posts)And those voters are less than satisfied with policy issues that mean a lot to them, be it the economy (inflation, income inequality), social justice, minority rights, voting rights, climate and other environmental issues, and now the US's money and weapons being used to wage a war in Gaza against both Hamas (terrorists) and innocent Palestinians, etc.
Now those voters are stuck with the same choice as last time. They don't honestly want to return power to Trump, but felt Biden would be a placeholder to return to stability and more normalcy. Biden achieved that (and I believe actually exceeded expectations), which is great, but many assumed Biden would be a one term President and pass the torch to a younger generation of leaders. Many voters are frustrated with the slow growth of progress and believe it would move faster with a different leader.
3auld6phart
(1,064 posts)Been elected yet. Having no ax to grind in your elections . I really hope that dangerous moron has left this vale of tears before Nov.oh by the way this od fart turned 88 today.I see that asshole So called Supreme Cortjustice doesnt like Washington. Calls it dirty, like he doesnt add to the stench, if that is the case just bugger off and take your skank and some other Justices with you
Rant is over. VOTE BLUE.
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