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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsU.S. medical volunteers in Rafah hospital say they've never seen a worse health crisis
https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2024/05/10/1250490688/rafa-hospital-gaza-israel-war-middle-east(snip)
"Unfortunately here I have to prioritize patient lives. When I say 'prioritizing patient lives' I mean I know that term but I never used it before until I came here," he said in an interview with NPR by video call from Rafah.
The benign-sounding term refers to deciding whom to stop treating and let die in order to divert resources to those with a better chance of surviving.
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Part of the problem is that items critical for hospitals are banned by Israel which says they can be used by Hamas for military purposes. The list of items it considers dual-use include some water disinfection materials.
The list does not cover all items that are reportedly banned. Save the Children has said it has had shipments rejected by Israel because they contained sleeping bags with zippers. An Israeli legal center, Geisha (sic), has compiled a list of items that have been reported by organizations to have been rejected, including fishing rods and plastic sheets for tents.
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TexasDem69
(2,105 posts)And this would be averted. Hamas wont because it is full of cowards and rapists. Everyone here should call for Hamas immediate surrender.
RockRaven
(15,329 posts)AGAIN, then we are right where are right now. Hamas DGAF what anyone on DU says or doesn't say, or how often.
TexasDem69
(2,105 posts)But I tire of folks suggestinglike this article doesthat Israel has somehow acted inappropriately when every single bit of fault lies at Hamas doorstep.
jimfields33
(16,773 posts)Itd be kin to blaming Ukraine for the deaths in Russia. Very strange how victims of this war are blamed. Israel did not deserve the destruction bestowed on them. Stop victim blaming.
RockRaven
(15,329 posts)So if Israel acts inappropriately, then they deserve to be criticized for acting inappropriately.
The behavior of other parties does not absolve one of the responsibility to act appropriately, it just changes (or rather may change) the standard of what is appropriate and what is not.
rgbecker
(4,841 posts)And this would be averted. The Israelis wont because they are full of hate and stated they will finish off Hamas and are not courageous enough to admit they cant do it without killing thousands of unarmed women and children. Everyone here should call for an immediate cease fire.
TexasDem69
(2,105 posts)It suggests that you think Israel doesnt have the right to defend itself, and by extension the continued existence of Hamas is guaranteed. Please correct me if Im wrong and condemn Hamas actions. And I dont support the calls for a ceasefire that only protects Hamas existence and its ability to commit future atrocities
Lonestarblue
(10,575 posts)TexasDem69
(2,105 posts)And I assume you know it. Youre too smart not to know it. Israel is engaged in a war caused by Hamas atrocities, and you are simply accepting Hamas reporting of the deaths. Do you really believe that Israel intentionally murdered hundreds of civilians in a hospital because Hamas said they did? This is the same Hamas that burned families in their cars and drove nails into the genitalia of female prisoners, and youre going to believe Hamas reporting on civilian deaths?
PCIntern
(25,866 posts)Hamas is counting the deaths of its own (and probably multiplying by a factor of four) as casualties. These numbers are passed on by the oh-so-willing collaborators in Gaza.
jimfields33
(16,773 posts)do you want Israel eliminated?
PCIntern
(25,866 posts)what happens when Hamas does it again. Which they most certainly will if theyre still in existence. The chorus will say The Israelis asked for it. Thats why Hamas must be eradicated this time. Not next time. Biden knows this and understands. The pronouncements to the contrary are for political necessities.
RockRaven
(15,329 posts)but you want people to believe they are truthful about this one specific item?
jimfields33
(16,773 posts)Hamas is nasty. They need to be defeated. Sadly only Israel understands this.
RockRaven
(15,329 posts)there is very little reason to believe it to be true and quite a few reasons to believe it is false.
Whether or not Hamas is nasty and whether or not they need to be defeated has no impact on the truth or falsity of the statement.
jimfields33
(16,773 posts)WhiskeyGrinder
(22,755 posts)It's pretty clear that it's not about the hostages for Netanyahu.
womanofthehills
(8,925 posts)After seeing how Israel treats prisoners- anyone would have to be insane to lay down arms.
Torture City.
https://youtube.com/shorts/jjcFxRsfUyw?si=BgKQy3zX8msw-quK